Auto Start

[Jetgunner]

I'm installing an auto start in my 2005 Accord. This won't void the warranty in any way, will it?

[RTexasF]

Is that the same as remote start?

[ertyu]

I thought about adding this but stopped when I figured out how many of the electrical systems have to be tapped into and disabled for it to work.

Alarm, Immobilizer, Ignition, etc.

[psyshack]

I was going to have one put in the Accord when we bought it. But the more I checked into it the less I wanted it. The part about a key having to be in a part of the system to clear codes and reapplie them was what put me over. I would have had to go buy another key. Then just the thought of a key being hidden in the car for some crafty theif to get at was all I could take.

[SSMV6]

Adding an auto start would not void warranty unless it messes up your electricals. Even then, it's only going to void the electrical warranty and has nothing to do with the powertrain or corrosion, etc.

I wanted to get a remote start too. Then I noticed how I don't like to idle the car and how quickly the car can warm up/ cool down and decided not to get one. :thmsup: It's not needed if you can take a little bit of heat/ cold!

[stevel]

something like that with electronic systems in new cars, just a bad idea. might work, but really bad idea.....

[EXLNavi]

I wanted remote start too, but I, too was uncomfortable with the thought of an extra key in the car.

I think the Pontiac G6 comes with it factory installed. Honda should look into that.

[psyshack]

Adding an auto start would not void warranty unless it messes up your electricals. Even then, it's only going to void the electrical warranty and has nothing to do with the powertrain or corrosion, etc.

I wanted to get a remote start too. Then I noticed how I don't like to idle the car and how quickly the car can warm up/ cool down and decided not to get one. :thmsup: It's not needed if you can take a little bit of heat/ cold!

I was impressed how fast our Accord warms up. We've only had afew 30 degree mornings. It warmed up fast! And the A/C cooled it quite fast also in those 100 degree days this summer with no window tint. Im sure that will be better this coming summer with the tint thats now installed.

[SSMV6]

Yep... My oil temp gauge starts moving away from the "C" as soon as I round the corner (about 1/2 mile)! My old car never warmed up until I got to where I wanted to go. :blah:

A factory remote starter is just a gimmick used to make you notice the car more. Just because it's the first company to put remote starters into their cars, doesn't make them a good idea! I think Honda is smarter than that. Also, given that Honda is one of the most environmentally responsible companies out there, I doubt they will ever install one from the factory.

[BenjiBoy650]

Me and Steve were messing with the remote start on his rental Grand Prix. What a pain in the butt. Big gimmick, not worth a penny. Especially with manuals and remote start, they're dangerous. My friend started his Prelude in Reverse, straight thru the garage door. That was great...

[stevel]

Me and Steve were messing with the remote start on his rental Grand Prix. What a pain in the butt. Big gimmick, not worth a penny. Especially with manuals and remote start, they're dangerous. My friend started his Prelude in Reverse, straight thru the garage door. That was great...
besides being potentially unsafe, the "benefit" of warming up the car before you go to it is just not good for the car itself. idling an engine to warm it up for your comfort is not good for the engine. aside from the "warm up" selling point of auto starts, I don't see any other desireable gain from having it..... :dunno:

[SSMV6]

besides being potentially unsafe, the "benefit" of warming up the car before you go to it is just not good for the car itself. idling an engine to warm it up for your comfort is not good for the engine. aside from the "warm up" selling point of auto starts, I don't see any other desireable gain from having it..... :dunno:
Amen! :)

I had autostart on my Camry because I wanted it for the "cool factor" and in the Civic for the fact that it doesn't warm up until I get to where I'm going unless I spend a little time idling (besides, it came with the alarm). I didn't use them much. Usually by the time I get near enough to the car to remote start it, I'm about 15 feet away. :rolleyes: Needless to say, I don't have one, nor do I see the need for one in my Accord! :thmsup:

[Jetgunner]

Well, I went and had it put in. I did need to give them a key, so I gave them the valet key. With this particular system, they didn't have to disable any parts of the security (alarm, immobilizer, etc). I live in an area that can have some damn cold winters, so being able to start my car 5 mins before leaving for work in the morning, or leaving the office in the eveing is a very nice feature.

As for the part about idling and warming up your engine being bad for the car, I've never heard that before. I've heard people debate over whether or not it is *necessary*, but that's a different story. Letting your engine run with no load on it for a few minutes to get the fluids circulating and oil temperature up can't be bad for the engine. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this about their Accord, but if I start mine cold and just go, you can feel the engine and/or transmission hesitate a bit. Anyway, I had it done and although it is certainly nothing more than a luxury, I do enjoy it and was relieved that they didn't have to make any alterations to the electrical system and were able to leave the security enable.

[SSMV6]

DEI has a new Immobilizer bypass out for Honda/Acuras. It does not require a key to be installed in the car.

DEI 556H(W) (http://www.directechs.com/guides/manuals/ig/accessories/N556H_03-05.pdf)

[bbtaco]

I have remote starters on some of our vehicles. We only use them when the windshields are iced over. It's not safe to let your engine run for just a minute or so and then drive off. :)

[stevel]

I have remote starters on some of our vehicles. We only use them when the windshields are iced over. It's not safe to let your engine run for just a minute or so and then drive off. :)
wrong.

idling an engine any more than neccesary is bad for it at any temp. an engine cannot burn all of the fuel injected into it at idle. when the engine is cold, even below freezing it burns even less of the fuel. where does that excess fuel go??????? into the oil and the catalytic converter. personally I don't want gas in my engine oil nor do I want to burn my cats out prematurely.

there is nothing wrong with driving conservatively after only two minutes or so of running at any outside temperature. starting to drive right away ensures that your engine warms up quickly and all the moving parts heat up and expand to their operating sizes. familiar with thermal expansion of metals??? when cold, especially extremely cold, internal parts need to heat up and expand as quickly as possible. in honda four cylinder engines without hydraulic lifters, this is very important as to not mushroom the heads of the valves stems for no reason good reason. point. heating the engine up as quickly as possible is the best thing you can do for it, as long as you don't redline it, etc. to accomplish it.

cars now also monitor how long it takes for the engine to heat up. if it doesn't heat up as quickly as the cars ecm wants it to, you could end up with a check engine light on for a coolant temp sensor, etc. this happens alot on early OBD-2 cars. early A4 and A6 Audi's have this happen alot, no reason a similar vintage honda won't do it also.

and, no, your trans will not be hurt under cold start driving even if it feels different as long as you aren't driving it hard before it warms up.

[anysia]

i still just wanna know exactly how freaking cold is it that the temperature incapacitates people from walking out to their car, inserting the key, turning the key, and defrosting/scraping windows before leaving??? :dunno:

man, we have become one lazy ass society.

:screwy:

[BenjiBoy650]

i still just wanna know exactly how freaking cold is it that the temperature incapacitates people from walking out to their car, inserting the key, turning the key, and defrosting/scraping windows before leaving??? :dunno:

man, we have become one lazy ass society.

:screwy:
:thmsup: :thmsup: :yes:

I got news! Scientists report that people who wear shorts and a t-shirt in the snow are measureably more uncomfortable than their counterparts in a thick jacket and pants! Try that, you won't need remote start!

[anysia]

:thmsup: :thmsup: :yes:

I got news! Scientists report that people who wear shorts and a t-shirt in the snow are measureably more uncomfortable than their counterparts in a thick jacket and pants! Try that, you won't need remote start!
there is nothing wrong with shorts and a tshirt in snow!!! :nuts: and i think i promised stevel wearing something else in the snow too. :lmao:

[BenjiBoy650]

there is nothing wrong with shorts and a tshirt in snow!!!

Not to you and me...but ya know some people have very thin skin...lol

[anysia]

Not to you and me...but ya know some people have very thin skin...lol
so maybe they should put on a coat....

or does thin skin mean thin skulled too and maybe they were dropped on their heads a few times as babies???

:lmao:

[bbtaco]

wrong.

idling an engine any more than neccesary is bad for it at any temp. an engine cannot burn all of the fuel injected into it at idle. when the engine is cold, even below freezing it burns even less of the fuel. where does that excess fuel go??????? into the oil and the catalytic converter. personally I don't want gas in my engine oil nor do I want to burn my cats out prematurely.

there is nothing wrong with driving conservatively after only two minutes or so of running at any outside temperature. starting to drive right away ensures that your engine warms up quickly and all the moving parts heat up and expand to their operating sizes. familiar with thermal expansion of metals??? when cold, especially extremely cold, internal parts need to heat up and expand as quickly as possible. in honda four cylinder engines without hydraulic lifters, this is very important as to not mushroom the heads of the valves stems for no reason good reason. point. heating the engine up as quickly as possible is the best thing you can do for it, as long as you don't redline it, etc. to accomplish it.

cars now also monitor how long it takes for the engine to heat up. if it doesn't heat up as quickly as the cars ecm wants it to, you could end up with a check engine light on for a coolant temp sensor, etc. this happens alot on early OBD-2 cars. early A4 and A6 Audi's have this happen alot, no reason a similar vintage honda won't do it also.

and, no, your trans will not be hurt under cold start driving even if it feels different as long as you aren't driving it hard before it warms up.
GEEEZ, I know it is not good to let your engine idle longer than necessary.I said we only use the remote start when the windshield is frozen over. I was not talking about normal day to day driving. We normally start the car, adjust the mirrors then put on our seat belts and drive off slowly until the engine warms up. But when it is 5 below zero and the windshield has a thick layer of ice on it. We let the engine run for 3 or four minutes until I can get the ice scraped off so it will help keep the windshield clear. The deicer type windshield washer fluid helps,but not when your windshield wipers are frozen solid.

[stevel]

GEEEZ, I know it is not good to let your engine idle longer than necessary.I said we only use the remote start when the windshield is frozen over. I was not talking about normal day to day driving. We normally start the car, adjust the mirrors then put on our seat belts and drive off slowly until the engine warms up. But when it is 5 below zero and the windshield has a thick layer of ice on it. We let the engine run for 3 or four minutes until I can get the ice scraped off so it will help keep the windshield clear. The deicer type windshield washer fluid helps,but not when your windshield wipers are frozen solid.
three or four minutes is no problem. :) but alot of people will just let the darn car run until the interior is 68 degrees when it's sub-zero temps outside. :lmao: I don't know of anyone on here doing that, but I've had people tell me they do and don't understand why it's wrong. :lmao:

[mrjtree]

Especially with manuals and remote start, they're dangerous. My friend started his Prelude in Reverse, straight thru the garage door. That was great...
A true Kodak moment.............

[anysia]

but again, legs have become immobile to the point where people can't get off their butt and go start the car the good old fashioned way? serves the same purpose and if you're already out there scraping ice, why in the world do you need a remote starter????

sorry, but for the 6 years since i've graduated college all of my cars have been parked outside all year long except for the 1.5 years i lived in the house. and well, i never saw it as a nuisance to have to put the key i the ignition and turn it.... :rolleyes: and over the winter, 9.99 days out of 10, the windshield will be either forsted over, iced over, or snowed over. and the remaining .01 day the windshield will be foggy.

[bagbklyn]

I have always had remote starts on all my accords, since the 89,96,00, and 03. One of the main reasons I have it is because my girlfiend has Rhuematoid Arthritis, if it is cold out and she is walking its not so painful. When she sits in a cold car all her joints ache for a long time. The remote start has been my best friend during the cold winter days.

Eventhough I have read in Car and driver magazine a while back that starting you car and not driving it over 30 mph is a lot better then remote starting the vehicle.

[BenjiBoy650]

My method before was to start the car, lock all the doors, go upstairs and grab a drink, watch a couple minutes of news, then go back down, open the car with the valet key and go.

[Jetgunner]

Yes, idling the car for 15 minutes is not good, especially if you then shut it down without driving it. However, I've had several mechanics state that letting the engine warm up, at least to the point that the needle starts to climb past C is good. Like most things with cars, this seems to be the subject of some debate.