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princess

10-09-2003, 10:38 AM

What nifty thing did you learn about your Accord did you find out AFTER you got it??

I didn't know about the trip computer until on the way home. (The Pilot's Nav doesn't have that)

I also didn't know that the windows can go down with using the remote. A warm day shopping..... hit the remote & roll down windows, then hit the trunk opener. By the time the trunk is loaded, the car is cooled off. Start, roll up the windows....go! Now we'll see if I remember to NOT open the windows when it starts raining!

pshivers

10-09-2003, 10:51 AM

The auto 4-window roll down was the nicest unknown! (You can also activate it with the key in door lock, just like the VW commercial!).

Discovering that the sound system is actually pretty good once you replce the speakers was a big plus. (You know the OEM speakers are cheap when Honda only charges $9.00 for them!)

It also loks like there are wasy to tap into the sound system with auxillary devices, (like a portable MP3 player or aftermarket GPS for us non Navi owners). Check out the Hands free cell phone schematics. Seems there some tap in areas on the top of the radio unit. Wish I new more about them and their intended functions.

Oh yeah and finally figuring out what that little green light was for on the dash! (Headlights On indicator ).:blush:

feferic

10-09-2003, 11:33 AM

You can also roll the windows up using the key in the door...

I particularly enjoyed the plug in the center console that you can use for your cell phone... didn't know that was in there when I bought it.

meaccord

10-09-2003, 01:54 PM

the dent in my truck lol!!!... besides that:

1- smart wipers.. i was driving along in the rain, you know the type when its not to heavy yet not too light... so i used the intermittent feature. I came to a stop at a light and the wipers stopped... what!!! then i started driving and they kicked in again.. really nice to have ( i live on the west coast canada, rainforest area).

2. auto off and on headlights. Forgot to turn them off, after few minutes they went off... jump back in the car and everything turns back on... no need to touch the on/off headlight switch :D

3. stereo sounded better then I thought;

4 the horn : its not that rinky dinky sounding type like some foreign cars::: its actually substantial::

hmmmm there is more; cant think right now:rolleyes:

princess

10-09-2003, 02:24 PM

The horn is funny here because the Accord (little girl) has the BIG "voice" & the Pilot (big girl) has the little "voice".

meaccord

10-09-2003, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by princess
What nifty thing did you learn about your Accord did you find out AFTER you got it??

I didn't know about the trip computer until on the way home. (The Pilot's Nav doesn't have that)

I also didn't know that the windows can go down with using the remote. A warm day shopping..... hit the remote & roll down windows, then hit the trunk opener. By the time the trunk is loaded, the car is cooled off. Start, roll up the windows....go! Now we'll see if I remember to NOT open the windows when it starts raining!

Trip computer?? what does yours do? isnt it just the a and b mileage meters... when you say trip computer i am thinking one that tells you distance to empty, average mileage etc... oh but i think you have navi right...?

those w/o navi have the simple trip mileage... i wish they had a real trip computer :mad:

princess

10-09-2003, 05:25 PM

meaccord, yep, it's a Navi! The trip computer does do the adveraging (which goes down when I drive) & distance on the tank. It even has a bar graph for "seeing" your adverage at that moment. It has said 50, but not when I'm the one behind the wheel. It's been one of those, "I wish the Pilot had one..." things on MY car. The Pilot's system is from'01 data, but they're selling the upgrade anytime now! For mere $185:eek:

princess

10-15-2003, 05:01 PM

I forgot.... I didn't know the dash came alive when you open the door. It's nice because the garage is kind of dark until the door is opened & I have no real pattern for what order I do what in when leaving. As long as the door is open when I move out, I'm OK!:eek:

meaccord

10-15-2003, 11:28 PM

here's another real neat thing... i think its a real touch of class by honda!!

Just in front of the sunglass holder on ceiling. There is a tiny light and what i discovered to be a air vent!

The little light shines ever so lightly onto the center console area ie the shifter/ cup holder area... it helps to luminate it during the night.. I was looking up and noticed it .. thought what is that?? very nice touch.. I didnt realize what the vent was until i stuck my hand under it and felt the air.. i am guessing it keeps the rear view mirrior defrosted?? not sure..

Do the coupes have the same thing??

:D :

feferic

10-16-2003, 07:57 AM

I thought that thing was the mic for the Navi system? I'll have to put my hand up there and see.

I agree - the pin light is very nice.

princess

10-16-2003, 08:45 AM

meaccord.
I'd noticed the tiny light, but not any air coming out. I'll have to check that out when I can get back in her tonight. It seems like the whole thing lights up in some way or another! When the lights where all the gauges are comes on it's like she saying "mornin' ":) "Let's go!"

feferic,
I didn't know WHERE the little mic was. Since you mentioned it, I had to look it up & you're right! It's right up there on the ceiling!

See this forum can be so educational!!:D

feferic

10-19-2003, 04:47 PM

Another ‘surprise’ was the up/down switch for the windows. If you have the windows unlocked, all the window switches light up with a green ‘bar’. If you lock the windows, the bar goes away. Nice feature.

princess

10-19-2003, 05:19 PM

Hadn't noticed that one! Kewl!!:D

raff

10-19-2003, 06:08 PM

i like how when you have the intermittent wiper setting all the way to low... when you speed it the wipers go faster and when you come to a stop they go slow again... i also like the little light next to the homelink that lights up on the shifter. and i LOVE how the windows go down using the keyless entry thing. people always stare at that hahaha

princess

10-20-2003, 05:19 PM

I've used the windows to let nearby people know the car isn't alone when they're too close.... especially kids. I don't want finger prints!! raff, I agree, it's a nifty feature!!

raff

10-21-2003, 07:24 PM

another feature i've come across is called "heavy foot" the car just wants to go fast i have to restrict it's actions :headbash:

princess

10-28-2003, 06:44 PM

That's not an easy task!!!:yes:

princess

11-19-2003, 11:45 AM

I found out that if you're too quick opening the door after unlocking it by remote, the chime for the lights goes on. Ok, so I don't NEED to use the remote when I'm that close, but I really don't want those little scratches I've seen by the keyhole/handle area. :sorry:

feferic

11-19-2003, 04:22 PM

I've noticed the same thing - i wonder if this is a programming error that was corrected on the 04s?

No worries about being to close, I don't think I've actually put my key into the lock since I've owned it -- well, except to see if I could really roll up all the windows at the same time.

princess

11-19-2003, 04:52 PM

I think the '04's do it too. I know of one that was torn completely apart. Doors, dash.... to find why the "chime" was going off. Turns out it's normal!

I thought it chimed to tell me that I only unlocked the drivers door after when last time I'd unlocked them all. Hey, it would've been a neat feature! But no it's just if you open the door while the marker lights are still flashing it chimes.

You DO need to put that key in the door every few thousand miles. We didn't in the Pilot or the '02 Accord & at about 10K the alarm would set itself without telling it to. It happened in the Accord & I KNEW I didn't lock the thing! Then it happened to my husband. He investigated. Turns out it's a preventable problem by simply using the keylock. I guess everything needs exercise!! So with an oil change use the key lock. Simple. :)

feferic

11-20-2003, 08:06 AM

Ah, great advice. I'll do tonight.

princess

11-20-2003, 08:23 AM

feferic,
what's your mileage now? I'm just about to hit 3K!

raff

11-20-2003, 11:09 AM

about the "chime" i had it in my civic too. think about it this way... when you take out the key and open the door when you have the headlights on you hear that annoying "chime" rite? same concept while the parking lights are flashing the interior lights are also flashign therefore if you open the door as soon as u press the button then you will hear the chime.

on another note if you lock your the second ur car door shuts then the security system will not arm itself so give it a second b4 u press that buttom.

feferic

11-20-2003, 12:29 PM

I'm almost to 14,000 -- Got the car last Feb -- two trips to colorado really tacked some serious miles onto it (considering I would drive my old car no more than 6,000 or so a year).

princess

11-20-2003, 01:37 PM

Mine's mileage will be going up next month with a Disnelyland trip. That will add about another K.:D

Red04EX

11-20-2003, 02:13 PM

I think I just turned 530 or so miles on mine :D

princess

11-20-2003, 03:08 PM

It's still a baby!

feferic

11-20-2003, 04:04 PM

I can't beleive how fast the it adds up -- oh well - that's one of the reasons I bought it vs. lease...

princess

11-20-2003, 04:06 PM

Well, if she weren't so FUN to drive....:D

timxkim

05-17-2004, 05:39 PM

mine's at 55 miles :)

princess

05-17-2004, 05:49 PM

Welcome, timxkim!! Congratulations on your NEW Honda!!:)

Dave

05-17-2004, 06:26 PM

What nifty thing did you learn about your Accord did you find out AFTER you got it??
1. that the arm rest extends over the cup holder. thought i broke it the first time.
2. the cargo net in the trunk.wasnt expecting it.
3. the auto up for the driver's window.
4. tilt/telescope wheel

Unity1

05-18-2004, 08:09 AM

The interesting thing to me was what turns on and off the passenger airbag.

It seems to me that it's based on weight.

If something about the size and weight of a car seat is in the passenger seat, the Passenger Airbag Off light comes on. Anything heavier or no weight at all and the airbag remains on.

I noticed it when I put a gallon of milk on there. The light came on.

Pretty neat. :)

princess

05-18-2004, 08:26 AM

Unity1,

You'd not believe how many people complain about the light coming on, not realizing they did it by setting a bag on the seat!!

It's supposed to make it safer for munchkins who are in the front seat. We put our grand-munchkins in the back. So far I do clear the weight/height for the airbags!

Dave,
The dealer probably added the cargo net. I don't think that's standard.....but still nifty! I don't have one for the Accord, not sure why we didn't pick one up.... We did for the Pilot. When I only have a bag or two I use the hooks. Or when hauling someting like eggs, that I don't want sliding around.

You'd think with about a foot difference between us, I'd be changing the steering wheel, but it turns out that we have the same "sweet" spot! I do have to scooooch up & raise the seat & change the driver's mirror. The other one is fine for me. These were the reasons I thought about an Acura. (memory seats) Oh well, maybe they'll add them to the Accord by my next round......

Ex Max

05-22-2004, 04:25 PM

If you turn the dash light brightness control fully clockwise with the headlights on (there is a detent at the end) the navigation screen returns to the daylight setting. Makes it easier to see it you are looking for a particular street. I read the manual and don't remember seeing this one.

Ex Max

05-23-2004, 05:10 PM

Oops, sorry Princess, just saw where you posted the same thing in another post.

There is another about tuning the radio, must go look at the radio first.

princess

05-23-2004, 05:37 PM

No biggie.... we all do that sometimes!:)

israel

05-23-2004, 08:09 PM

Very Educational. There are a few things that the Honda website doesn't show. I am almost finished paying for my wife's 99 LX and I am considering to get an 04 or 05 EX for me. I am desperate. I drive a 90 Pontiac GrandAm with no air (I live in the South).

I haven't decided between the 4 or 6 cylinders though.

princess

05-23-2004, 09:21 PM

Welcome to the forum, israel!:)

Both the 4 & the 6 have their good & bad. There's not much difference in the freeway gas mileage. If most of your driving is in town there is though the 4 would be easier on the wallet.

I hope you enjoy reading through what others have said about their Accords!!

04EXNavi

05-24-2004, 05:58 AM

I agree with Unity1, the airbag cutoff was a cool thing to discover. My other half had the car last week, and I got a call asking how to turn the airbag back on - he had placed some stuff on the seat. Once I explained it, he said our car gets smarter every day...

One of the coolest things I keep discovering is new voice commands that the Nav system recognizes. "CD play next disc" is my current favorite.

The dash lighting is also very cool, like she's waking up as you open the door and put the key in.

BTW, what nicknames do others have for the Navi system in their car? You know you have one for it, so don't deny it. We call ours Holly, from the BBC show Red Dwarf.

princess

05-24-2004, 06:52 AM

Nicknames.... well, when we bought the Pilot that "ding" that sounds before the Nav speaks is how she got named "Belle". The Accord is "Tink" , the sound is a little different. I argue with her Nav system when I'm going a different route than she wants. "No, Tink, I'm not making a U turn when possible!"

The most annoying thing about the voice control was when we first got her my prince got a big kick out of changing the temp on the passenger side! He finally out grew it.:D

04EXNavi

05-24-2004, 07:03 AM

I've had a few discussions with Holly over her directions, but I don't get upset with her - probably because she can say everything without sarcasm, or letting out a big sigh.

That would be kinda funny if it did that when you ignore the directions. "Sigh - well, since you know a better way than I do, why did you ask me in the first place?"

fearlessfreap24

05-24-2004, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by israel
Very Educational. There are a few things that the Honda website doesn't show. I am almost finished paying for my wife's 99 LX and I am considering to get an 04 or 05 EX for me. I am desperate. I drive a 90 Pontiac GrandAm with no air (I live in the South).

I haven't decided between the 4 or 6 cylinders though.

i have a co-work who bought his 04 ex a week bfore i bought my 03 lx. he loves his ex and i think that it is rather nice. i like the 2.4 i-vtec, and i like it more everday. the 6 cylinder to me would be ok if i wanted to pay for the gas. i am not sure of the difference in mileage, it is just my opinion

princess

05-24-2004, 04:07 PM

On the freeway, the 6's are just about where the 4's are...it's in town you'd see the difference.... we (he) gets about 32 consistantly on trips. I sometimes actually break the 20 mark around town!:rolleyes:

04EXNavi, we've thought if many phrases for the Nav's. There's a spot when coming home from Disneyland that she always wants us to take a different route. She spends about 10 miles telling us to turn around at every off ramp..... there's been some moments of frustration there!! (there's no time or mile difference, she just wants us to stay on the main roads) An eye roll & sigh would go great there. They should have a few programable phrases... I think I'd add "whatever" when not following her instructions & "again" when taking a PIT stop. :D

mattdalt

05-24-2004, 04:21 PM

As many have posted, pretty nifty that you can roll don all the windows when you unlock the car.

Would it have been that hard to allow the windows to all roll UP when you lock?

Maybe included the moonroof/sunroof in the operation.

There is probably some good reason not to allow the windows to roll up, but it would have been a nifty feature to compliment the windows rolling down.

Hugh Graham

BenjiBoy650

05-24-2004, 04:47 PM

I think the reason could be that they might have had to add another button to the remote. They could have used lock, but you don't always want the car to lock when you want to roll up the windows. On the other hand, if you're rolling down all the windows on your brand new Accord, you better not be walking away from it lol.

benjamming

05-24-2004, 05:09 PM

I will make a guess & say the roll up feature was not added for safety. Domestics use rocker switches for power windows. Consumer Reports does a little thing on this every so often.

dskulski

05-25-2004, 04:36 AM

this probably happens on all new cars, but it's big news to me as I just found out about it yesterday. If you shut off the car, take the keys out of the ignition and all, but don't open the car door, you can still control the power windows. By the way, that auto up/down feature is way to sensitive for my big clumsy hands.

Inspector1

05-25-2004, 05:46 AM

dskulski,
You can also close your sunroof too.!!!

I1:)

princess

05-25-2004, 08:01 AM

Who knows, maybe a future model will be able to roll up the windows from the fob too!

I didn't know that I could also close the sunroof without the car being on... I did know about the windows though.

Neat, how we're constantly learning!!:D

BenjiBoy650

05-25-2004, 04:39 PM

Yup I noticed that cool feature on my '99 too, but it might be just an EX thing.

hondagrl

05-26-2004, 02:55 PM

the accords have many cool features. Princess does your pilot share any of the same features as your accord? Just wondering cuz its the flagship suv, for honda. I wish they would integrate some of the accords features into the crv. Those are my 2 choices when I trade in my civic.

Im sold on both ..... what to do .... :D

princess

05-26-2004, 03:12 PM

I'm not sure how to answer that, Hondagrl. Both have bum warmers, auto down for the driver's window, 6 CD players....technically the Pilot holds 7 since we added the 6. Their Navs are different...the Pilot's isn't vocally interactive. The Pilot's duel climate is front & back, not side to side. Both have outside temp gauges. No trip computer in the Pilot. That's THE one thing we do miss in the Pilot!!

To me, it's apples & oranges since we view the Pilot as our TRUCK & the Accord is the car. We looked for different stuff. Towing & hauling power were more on our minds at the time. The Accord was for comfort with a bit of sport. We love many things about both!

I've never paid much attention to the CRV's since they wouldn't haul the boat. Each year they seem to add more little things to the models, so who knows.....maybe it will be just what you wanted at the time you're ready to purchase!!:)

The CRV owner I know wish they'd gone with the 4WD version. They didn't realize they all aren't! Other than that they have no complaints. Do your homework, so you'll know what you want before shopping. Sales people will try to talk you into whatever is on their lot. Don't let them!!

Is there a special Accord feature(s) that you want to know if the Pilot has??

BenjiBoy650

05-26-2004, 04:06 PM

With the Pilot around, I doubt they're going to put any Accord features into the CR-V. The CR-V is based on the Civic and the Pilot on the Accord, so they share features with their counterparts.

Pairallel

05-27-2004, 08:10 AM

This thread at the HondaPilot.org site might help shed some light...

http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8372&highlight=accord+pilot

:)

princess

06-05-2004, 09:33 AM

Found out another feature: if you turn OFF the main switch for the power windows then the lights go out on the rest of the doors' window switches! I guess out of sight, out of mind is the hope when trying to keep munchkins from playing with the windows!:D (Discovered this on our way home from Fresno last night with the two 5 year olds with us.)

ben916

06-07-2004, 03:40 PM

what about the wonderful airbags/curtains that hopefully no one has had to test?!?!

The other nice surprise is the decent gas mileage. I am coming off a 1986 Mustang GT 5 speed = no A/C, no Airbags, no Power windows, and maybe 20 mpg if easy on the pedal...

I am thinking of creating a bumper sticker that says something to the effect of:
nice 20 inch rims, how's the gas mileage?

princess

06-07-2004, 03:52 PM

They're factory, insurance & government tested..... so far rate nicely! I hope to never know personally!

A few years back my prince thought about rigging the laucher part under his boss' chair......:joker: But didn't. He would've known who did it!

bcclements

08-07-2004, 07:41 PM

Did you know you can turn the stereo on by just selecting the source. If the stereo is off, just select CD or AM/FM and it turns on.

Pretty cool.

I really like the console pin light.

RTexasF

09-06-2004, 02:40 PM

When I bought the car the salesman was very knowledgable and showed me every feature no matter how small. The one thing he missed was that the sunroof can be closed manually with a tool in the trunk if the button/power screws up. See the small cap in the headliner? Pull that out and insert the tool to crank the sunroof closed! TWO KUELL!

princess

09-07-2004, 06:27 AM

That one is news to me! I kinda figured there must be a way.....but never thought about HOW it would be done... Nice to know!

benjamming

09-07-2004, 01:51 PM

Our salesman was very new & didn't know much. However, he did show us about the moonroof. I guess he thought that was pretty neat & it stuck with him after his training.

anysia

09-07-2004, 02:45 PM

my sales man was great with that stuff too. having had an 00 civic and an 03 civic up until then, he didn't bother with the stuff that was the same. but he did cover the 6disc changer operation, the moonroof/sunroof including manual close, where the jack is (different from the civics). he seemed to be really good about knowing what was going to be different or an added feature for me and had everything all planned out well! :D here's hoping i don't have to use the thing to close the roof anytime though! ;)

princess

09-07-2004, 03:07 PM

We weren't shown anything! I guess they figure with him working on them, he'd know....... but he doesn't get to PLAY with them at work..... so we had to learn on our own!:D

RTexasF

09-07-2004, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by bcclements
Did you know you can turn the stereo on by just selecting the source. If the stereo is off, just select CD or AM/FM and it turns on.

Pretty cool.

I really like the console pin light.

I didn't know that, thanks.

Fredsvt

09-08-2004, 04:45 PM

Have a few, but will name 4.

The quietness. On the highway all you hear is a bit of wind. Much better than my old Integra.

Getting my stock wheels (also have the stock suspension in boxes too) back when I ordered the HFP package, for winter tires.

The radio has fantastic sound quality. Love XM! (has the premium audio w/6speed)

Fuel mileage has been excellent consistently 28-29 daily grind, 35 to 40 mpg on the highway. Very nice for a 240hp car that's quick.

princess

09-08-2004, 04:55 PM

Welcome, Fredsvt!!!:D

dougm

04-23-2005, 10:17 PM

RTexasF

04-24-2005, 05:30 AM

Trip

04-24-2005, 03:02 PM

Okay, this is an old thread, but I'm new and just found it. My sun visors extend!! Cool! Who knew?? Obviously everyone but me. I was really missing the little pull out extensions, but this is even better.

Here are a couple contributions: 1) For those with the auto-dim mirror, have you ever been in the dark garage and noticed that the mirror was being activated by the light from the open door behind you? As soon as you put the car into reverse, the mirror lightens up! It's connected into the same circuit as the backup lights so that it always deactivates when the car is in reverse. 2) Has anyone noticed that if you simply put the key into the ignition, without starting the car, before closing the door, the interior lights go out immediately when you close the door. If you put the key in after you close the door, the lights stay on for several seconds. There are times when I don't want the interior lights to stay on and being able to control it is really nice.

Any more new things now that I've resurrected this old thread?

Doug M.

I'll have to check out the auto-dim rear view mirror thing. I've noticed how it gets dark when the garage door opens, but I've never noticed it lighten up b4. Neat.

My fave features are the heated seats and they way they pulse on and off in HI mode. I also like being able to vent the windows as I approach. Other than that, there really aren't too many special features that you can't find on a lot of other cars. It's just that Accord does them better. :D In general, I love the Accord's interior. I think it's one of the best around regardless of price. The ergonomics, materials, shapes and lines, colors, feature packaging, comfort - it's all there.

The over head LED "ambient light" is nice. I have the optional gear shift handle on my 5-speed which is leather wrapped but has the same brushed metallic trim on the very tip-top with the shift pattern in it. It catches the over head light and illumitates the shift pattern.

A couple of neat things:

1) Press and hold the CD/AUX button for 5 seconds, it will turn off the center display. Cool for night driving. Press and hold again, it will turn on. Not sure if this works for NAVI.

2) Not only are the intermittent wipers speed sensitive, they respond to the brake pedal, too. With the wipers in INT mode, come to a compelte stop. Every time you lift your foot off the brake, they will wipe. Put it on the longest invterval and check it out. Keep tapping the brake pedal, and they'll keep wiping. Hold the pedal and they'll cycle normally.

SSMV6

04-25-2005, 09:54 AM

The things I found nifty when I got my Accord was the shopping bag hook in the trunk and the extendable visors. The luggage hook is just the right height so it'll hold the bag without slipping off and won't make the bag hang 5 inches off the floor of the trunk.

I found out about the visors when I was sitting in my parked car and had an annoying sun shining from my left. I was thinking, why didn't honda have extenders on the visor to cover the hole side window like my Camry? It only covers half of the window. Then I tried pulling it further out to see if it'll stretch and I looked like: :jawdrop:

I'm sure Princess' question about the warning chime when using the remote to unlock then opening the door immediately has been answered in another thread, but here goes. The chime is actually the headlights on chime! When you unlock with the remote, the parking lights flash twice. If you open the door before the lights stop flashing, then you'll notice the chime. That chime played with my mind in my old car when I first noticed it. I started thinking that either the chime was my imagination or my door was very soundproof because I couldn't hear the chime unless I have the door opened! :lmao: :lmao:

dougm

04-25-2005, 10:41 AM

The chime is actually the headlights on chime! When you unlock with the remote, the parking lights flash twice. Exactly. I'm not usually that close to the Accord when I unlock the door, but my wife's CRV does the same thing.

One other neat thing I've discovered is that if you fail to fully release the parking break, as soon as you start to move, a chime sounds to remind you. Happened one day when I was leaving the gym and I was totally surprised. It's in the manual, but I hadn't seen it.

Doug M.

SSMV6

04-29-2005, 09:39 AM

Oh I forgot to add that the dealer installed a LoJack for free. I didn't know until I went to pick up the car. Until recently, I didn't realize that I got free splash guards installed! I've wondered about the splash guards, but I always thought it came like that from the factory. :banana:

What happened was someone else wanted to buy my car before, but they decided to get a different color (probably Graphite Gray). Those folks never registered or driven the car (It had 9 miles when I picked it up), but the dealership already had those items installed. The more I drive the car, the more freebies I find on it! :thumbsup:

OwAce

04-29-2005, 10:01 AM

SSMV6

04-29-2005, 03:01 PM

I paid $24,700 (including the destination charge), which was about $150 above invoice. I could've brought it down even more, but it wasn't worth my time (had my mom with me). I got $7500 for my trade-in which was pretty good considering it went through a major accident last year and it needs about $1000 or repairs/ maintenance right now. The short list has the words EVAP, tires, wheels, timing belt and brakes.

The thing was, I didn't even plan on doing the deal that night, but I made a decision while I was there that this will be the car I want to drive for the next 8-10 years. I just hope it'll last that long with my driving style. Besides, I got an very good price for both my trade-in and new car! :thmsup: So far, so good.

SSMV6

04-29-2005, 03:07 PM

Now that I think about it more, the funny thing was I remembered the salesperson and the finance officer trying to push the LoJack... I kept denying it since it's only going to save me $20/year on my insurance and if someone steals my car, then let them keep it!

tazcliff

04-29-2005, 09:33 PM

Ok you made me look. backlit steering wheel controls were a suprise.

EXLNavi

04-29-2005, 10:06 PM

A nice feature I discovered was being able to unload the CD changer while the key was off. So if you turn off your car and forget to eject the disc, just press eject and it will eject it for you.

EXLNavi

05-10-2005, 09:46 AM

Another nice surprise is the some of the navi's voice commands.

Me: "What is the time?"
Navi: "It is 12:40 PM"

Me: "How far to destinantion"
Navi: "It is about four miles to the destination"

Me: "How long to destination"
Navi: "It will take about 10 minutes to get to the destination"

Me: "I love you"
Navi: "Pardon?"
Girlfriend: "Pardon?????" :D

Oh, and interactive voice commands setting the destination isn't bad either. IT will call out the destination's address to you, like this:

"Would you like to calculate a route to five nine five main street, new york, new york?"

Or, if you ask it to display current location:

Me: "Display current location"
Navi: "[different voice]Southern State Parkway, Babylon[/different voice] New York."

04EXNavi

05-10-2005, 11:10 AM

That other voice is so bad, I just tell myself that the Navi is talking with her mouth full.

You can also be a little less formal with certain commands: "How long/far till we get there?" Also works.

Gutterball

05-10-2005, 07:51 PM

When you're using your cruise control, if you tap the speed up (or speed down) arrow X times, your cruise control will speed up (or slow down) by X miles/hour. In Canada, even though we're in KM's, it'll adjust your speed by miles.

There's a low windshield washer fluid indicator :nuts:

Invero

05-10-2005, 08:43 PM

There's a low windshield washer fluid indicator :nuts:

Where? I ran out of fluid the other day, and no light came on :(

I have an '05 EX-L, no navi... is it a Navi only thing?

EXLNavi

05-10-2005, 09:36 PM

I think the washer fluid indicator is only for canadian models. I even think that's the law there in Canada.

BenjiBoy650

05-10-2005, 09:48 PM

When you're using your cruise control, if you tap the speed up (or speed down) arrow X times, your cruise control will speed up (or slow down) by X miles/hour. In Canada, even though we're in KM's, it'll adjust your speed by miles.

If ya ask me I think that's a pretty dumb idea. Then again, nobody asked me.

jintegra

05-10-2005, 10:55 PM

Hmm .. didn't know you could roll up the windows with the key, till I read it here, thanks! Now for my list:
- Ability to shut off the a/c while still in climate control mode. I usually disable the a/c in the winter, spring & fall (since it zaps power & uses more gas) so I find it very useful.
- The retained accessory power for the windows & moonroof. Not exactly a surprise since I had read it in the manual first, but still a very useful feature.
- Opening the driver door with the key also disables the security alarm (makes sense!) - just wished it was like that on my other cars with aftermarket alarms.
- For 5MT models, if you drive with the parking brake accidentally engaged, it beeps to warn you! On the 'teg, my only indication is the ABS failure light because I've overheated the ABS sensors!

EXLNavi

05-11-2005, 06:15 AM

That other voice is so bad, I just tell myself that the Navi is talking with her mouth full.

It's understandable why it's that way. My cell phone has something similar.

Many of the regular voice prompts (things like "take the next", right turn, left turn) and the names of the lower 48 states and provinces in Canada and alphanumeric digits are recorded as they are.

The rest are synthesized from syllables (phonemes). That's why they sound muffled.

Invero

05-11-2005, 04:42 PM

I think the washer fluid indicator is only for canadian models. I even think that's the law there in Canada.
Bummer... I had it on my old car, and it was a nice feature.

EXLNavi

05-12-2005, 06:46 AM

Bummer... I had it on my old car, and it was a nice feature.

Was your old car made by GM or Chrysler?

GM I know keeps many of the same features for Canadian models in the US, like DRLs.

dougm

05-12-2005, 07:31 AM

I wonder if the low washer light could be added. Hondas are very modular. It might be as simple(?) as replacing the washer tank with the Canadian version. Anyone know of a Canadian web dealer who can export parts? I've been looking for a heated mirror and control too.

Doug M

EXLNavi

05-12-2005, 08:22 AM

Might not be so simple. I don't even see the indicator on the dash. If you can get your hands on a Canadian service manual that would help.

princess

05-12-2005, 08:49 AM

Stuff to check out if you're really interested in trying to put the CA fluid sensor in:

princess

05-12-2005, 09:59 AM

princess

05-12-2005, 10:00 AM

the last unless someone has a request.....

dougm

05-12-2005, 12:44 PM

Service manual doesn't help much other than tell us we are looking for a blue or pink wire in the right branch of the engine compartment wire harness. I suspect the gage control module picks up the ground signal from there and activates the light. Not sure where I read the discussion about this, but According to some of the Canadian owners, the light doesn't do a bulb check and no one seems to remember where it is on the dash. I'd bet my rear spoiler that Honda didn't make a totally separate gage cluster just for Canada so it's probably somewhere there on our cars too. May not have a bulb... Princess, I hate to ask this, but is there a picture of the Canadian gage cluster that shows where the light is?

Doug M.

EXLNavi

05-12-2005, 01:27 PM

I'd bet my rear spoiler that Honda didn't make a totally separate gage cluster just for Canada so it's probably somewhere there on our cars too. May not have a bulb... Princess, I hate to ask this, but is there a picture of the Canadian gage cluster that shows where the light is?

Doug M.

I do believe there's a separate cluster for Canada.

Consider the following:

The canadian gauge cluster also has a "DRL" light to indicate that DRL's are active. DRL's are required by Canadian law. I don't see this anywhere on my US Accord's dash.

Canada uses the Metric system so their speedometer is most likely in km/h (probably with mph in smaller writing).

dougm

05-12-2005, 02:02 PM

I do believe there's a separate cluster for Canada. And you may be correct, but making a separate guage cluster is quite costly. More likely there are a few inserts that get changed during assembly. We probably don't have the light, but somewhere there's a space for it and possibly all the wiring to make it work. Another nice surprise about Honda - lots of plug and play!

Doug M.

princess

05-12-2005, 02:22 PM

I can't find a dash picture...

There are "blanks" above the tach...., a row of 3 (DRL, the washer level, blank) above the row of 4 (blank, check engine, charging system, oil) I see it in my owners manual on pages 62 & 63. Mine's an '03, so newer ones may have different pages.

Maybe that will help you! :dunno:

Invero

05-12-2005, 02:24 PM

Was your old car made by GM or Chrysler?

GM I know keeps many of the same features for Canadian models in the US, like DRLs.
It was a VW Jetta. It had a lot of little features that I really miss, like the washer light, one touch up/down for both windows, one touch sunroof (dial). But then again, my Accord has a sunglasses holder, useable cupholders, and um, reliability.

Trip

05-12-2005, 06:05 PM

It was a VW Jetta. It had a lot of little features that I really miss, like the washer light, one touch up/down for both windows, one touch sunroof (dial). But then again, my Accord has a sunglasses holder, useable cupholders, and um, reliability.

There are a few features I miss from my Passat. Like Invero mentioned the one touch front windows form both pass and driver, the lo washer level light, trip computer, homelink, the heated mirrors, and most of all - the rain sensing wipers. Those things were sweeeet. And what an awesome safety feature.

Lots of neat things - when they worked :thumbsdow . Too may electrical gremlins totally detracted from the driving experience. I don't talk about the "dark period" much. :paranoid:

I think Honda doesn't offer many of these features to help keep the Accord's price competitive. Too bad they wouldn't consider offering an additional trim package and offer some of these things. I know I'd pay a premium over the standard EX. Actually I did - I got an EX-L which added a few desirable extras over the standard EX. :thmsup:

Invero

05-12-2005, 06:27 PM

Would it really cost that much to get one-touch on the passenger side? I'm assuming it's just a switch. On that note, I wonder how hard it would be to just swap out the switch?

EXLNavi

05-12-2005, 06:34 PM

There are a few features I miss from my Passat. Like Invero mentioned the one touch front windows form both pass and driver, the lo washer level light, trip computer, homelink, the heated mirrors, and most of all - the rain sensing wipers. Those things were sweeeet. And what an awesome safety feature.

Trip computer is available with navi
Homelink is available with V6 (and can be installed on I4 for about $200-$300)

Heated mirrors - I don't understand this one. Why include it on Canadian Accord and JDM Inspire but not US Accord? Ditto for the low washer indicator.

BenjiBoy650

05-12-2005, 06:59 PM

Heated mirrors - Inspire is an upscale car so you really need to put that feature on, especially in gadget crazy Japan. Canada has a particularly large need for the heated mirrors, much more so than the USDM market, which is why I suspect they have it. I don't think the Camry has heated mirrors in USA, another reason why they probably don't offer it. I've never needed heated mirrors and we've been up in the mountains/snow storms many times...so I dunno.

Thrud

05-12-2005, 10:00 PM

I just bought my EX V6 Accord last week. My previous car was a '97 Grand Prix GTP. Here are some of the things that I miss from the Grand Prix:

- driver's information display that showed me my current fuel economy, range, fuel used, and oil life
- headlights came on when it got dark
- doors locked when I put the car in gear, and unlocked when I turned off the car
- heads up display (showed speed, turn signals and radio info on the windshield)
- the supercharged engine

Little things that I like about my Accord are:
- the XM radio! I didn't think I would ever pay for radio, but I will. I love XM.
- the seats. I love the lateral support on the Accord seats.
- the refinement. The interior is beautiful and I love how quiet the car is.
- It's not black! The Grand Prix was the last black car I will own.

EXLNavi

05-13-2005, 04:51 AM

I just bought my EX V6 Accord last week. My previous car was a '97 Grand Prix GTP. Here are some of the things that I miss from the Grand Prix:

- driver's information display that showed me my current fuel economy, range, fuel used, and oil life

This info (except oil life) is available only on navi models. Press "Info" then "Trip computer".

dougm

05-13-2005, 07:27 AM

Honda seems to stay back from technology a step or 2 until it's perfected and can be implemented at their level of standard. Everything on the Accord just works. My Pontiac had a ton of gadgets (and I miss my DIC too :paranoid: ...) but there were many times when the doors failed to lock/unlock automatically, the headlights had a mind of their own, and the fuel usage was never right - I always had to put more gas in than the computer said I used.

For those non-navi owners who would like to have a trip computer (and more), search the web for scangauge. Looks like a great simple solution and really good price. It's on my list of future enhancements. I'm in the process of adding auto-door locks now which is almost the last thing I missed from the Pontiac. I half miss the automatic headlights, but haven't found an acceptable solution to that yet and haven't tried hard. I've got all the parts scoped out for the addition of a drivers side heated mirror (not sure if it's worth it yet...) and I'm not quite ready to give up on addition of the low washer light.
I see it in my owners manual on pages 62 & 63 Thanks Princess. You really are the best. I have the picture on page 64, but none of the lights are labeled other than the check engine, battery and oil in the row below. The rest are just blank boxes. Honda must have had to save the ink to use on the additional 2 pages. :D

Doug M.

Thrud

05-13-2005, 07:58 AM

I am looking at this (http://www.autobarn.net/des20012.html) module for the autoheadlights. Has anyone tried this?

Thrud

05-13-2005, 08:18 AM

That Scangauge is cool. I wish it looked better. Is MPG one of the parameters that you can get from OBD2?

Here is another gauge (http://www.aeroforcetech.com/index.html) that does what the Scangauge does. It's pricier, but I think there are some group purchases (http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=2079409&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=aeroforce&language=single&tmode=&smode=&s=#2079507) going on for it.

dougm

05-13-2005, 08:28 AM

Yes, I've looked at this, but I'm not confident that it will interface well on an Accord. I'd like to know a little more about it. If it gets hooked directly to the high beams, low beams and parking lights, how does it activate the dash lights... Do the headlights go off and on when the wipers are on pulse? :dunno:

Doug M.

dougm

05-13-2005, 08:31 AM

oops, that probably got confusing... Should have checked for new posts before replying...

Here is another gauge that does what the Scangauge does. COOL! Not that expensive and much nicer, but will it work on Honda?

Doug M

SSMV6

05-13-2005, 08:35 AM

It looks like the gauges all hook up to the diagnostic port on the interior of the car. I'm very weary of any kind of device that is hooked up this way. Any long-term effects with these devices? :paranoid:

dougm

05-13-2005, 08:46 AM

But no trip computer functions. :boohoo:

Doug M.

dougm

05-13-2005, 08:51 AM

I'm very weary of any kind of device that is hooked up this way. Any long-term effects with these devices? Why would connecting to a data port have long-term effects? Maybe I should be wary as well.

Doug M.

SSMV6

05-13-2005, 09:01 AM

Just connecting to the diagnostic port for a short term is ok... I just don't know about leaving it plugged in all the time and having the device constantly monitoring the ECU. It shouldn't cause any problems, but you never know... :dunno:

Thrud

05-13-2005, 09:46 AM

I doubt that connecting these gauges could have any detrimental effect. The trip computer on the navigation module probably connects to the same data bus.

I am going to ask the Aeroforce folks if their gauge will display MPG.

Thrud

05-13-2005, 10:40 AM

The response from Aerotech was:

"I'd say that by fall we'll have a Honda version. Unlike the ScanGauge, our gauge is capable of displaying a much broader range of parameters because we access the "enhanced" or manufacturer specific ones that performance enthusiasts really want to see such as knock retard, trans temp, MAF sensor outputs, oil pressure, etc. Calculating an estimated MPG has not been requested until now and I believe we can better use our microprocessor resources for other performance related measurements which will be available on future versions of this gauge. Thank you for your interest!"

dougm

05-19-2005, 07:44 AM

Hope there isn't a limit to how long a thread can get...

I found a new surprise yesterday totally by accident: On my non navi XM radio, if you push and hold the "Disp" button until it beeps, it will toggle between "ch" and "category" modes. In category mode, the "tune" button moves the channels only within whatever XM category you are in. The seek/skip button changes the category. In other words, I like the "decades" category, so I go to channel 7 (usually my favorite... :D ) using a preset. Now pushing the tune button moves only within the decades category - 7-8-9-4-5-6-7... Select another category with the seek/skip buttons or push a preset for a station in a different category and the tune button moves you around within only that category. NEAT!

Doug M.

SSMV6

05-19-2005, 08:19 AM

I don't think so.. Check out this thread (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?p=25537#post25537)

Another thing I found out was how surprisingly good the stock radio is. It is almost good enough that I don't want to put a new one in there!

dougm

05-19-2005, 08:38 AM

I don't think so.. Check out this thread Woa... hadn't seen that thread. Fun, but I have work to get done...

The stock radio isn't bad. About as good as the one I had on my Pontiac, which I thought was fantastic when I got it, but for some reason I'm wanting more... Thinking about a subwoofer to clean up the base a little. I'm wondering if just changing to higher quality speakers might accomplish the same thing. I haven't even considered changing the head unit, especially since it's an integral part of the dash.

Doug M.

SSMV6

05-19-2005, 08:46 AM

It's adequate for the kind of music I listen to .. If I listened to more hard rock in the car, then I'd look into putting my sub box in this car. I realized that I tend to drive more aggressivly when listening to club/ rock in the car. :banana: I like having a usable trunk and the sub box takes up half the trunk. You can't swap out the radio per-se, but you could install it in place of the storage bin under the HVAC controls. I like having space over bass. :)

jintegra

05-19-2005, 11:07 AM

piturra

05-19-2005, 03:26 PM

I learned pretty much what's discussed here from the Internet Manager that spent time with me pointing out all the features including the XM radio.

The only one he didn't point out was the "Ambient Console Lighting" (cool :cool: ), ... it was still daylight but, I already read about that in my 2005 Accord PDF Brochure a week before I took delivery!

Now, the only thing I wanted to know was, ... can I lock my car via remote, ... from the 2nd story floor window like I can with our 2004 Pilot??? (my office cubicle next to the window)

I have recently started forgetting whether I locked it or not (yeah, yeah, ... the ole' grey cells are fading fast), ... so it would be nice to just walk up to the window and lock the car!!!

IT DOES!!! :banana:

The distance I would guess is approx. 30-40 yards down. Simple things just makes me happy!!! :lmao:

Phil

Invero

05-19-2005, 03:29 PM

BenjiBoy650

05-19-2005, 03:31 PM

My old car key with integrated remote distance would be extended if I touched the tip of the key to my chin. Don't know why it worked, but it about doubled the range. I'd imagine it would be the same for the Accord's key fob.

Since I dropped my keys several times, my remote doesn't work when I'm standing 5 feet away about half of the time.

EXLNavi

05-19-2005, 03:32 PM

My old car key with integrated remote distance would be extended if I touched the tip of the key to my chin. Don't know why it worked, but it about doubled the range. I'd imagine it would be the same for the Accord's key fob.

Your body acts as an antenna. Since it is effectively filled with water (blood and all your other fluids), it is a pretty good conductor of electricity, and hence an okay (not great) antenna, much better than the one that's in the keyfob..

EXLNavi

05-19-2005, 03:35 PM

SSMV6

05-19-2005, 03:39 PM

My old car key with integrated remote distance would be extended if I touched the tip of the key to my chin. Don't know why it worked, but it about doubled the range. I'd imagine it would be the same for the Accord's key fob.

Interesting. Never thought it would matter tho. The remote isn't supposed to have an external antennae.

Piturra, I could lock my doors from the 4th floor (about 150 feet away)!

jintegra, honda finally realized that people like listening to quality music in their cars and gave us better radios! The older Hondas have such underpowered radios that even with just a new headunit, the system sounds 300% better!

SSMV6

05-23-2005, 07:59 AM

Another one that slipped my mind... During the first 3 seconds while the radio is powering on, if you try to change the volume, it automatically starts from "0" so you don't inadvertently blast your radio! :)

Trip

05-27-2005, 04:34 PM

Today I just noticed that the dials to open/close the outer dash vents are rubber, not plastic. Nice little tactile detail.

Also, something for the audio system that I didn't see in the manual. I have a non-NAVI headunit. If you pres and hold the RPT button while playing a CD, the display will show D-RPT and the entire disc will repeat, not just the track.

iAccord

05-27-2005, 09:10 PM

[FONT=Tahoma]here is a little trick for accords with navi hold the cd/xm button for about 7 to 10 seconds and it will turn off the upper display that shows the AC temp setting and radio information. on cars w/o navi it will turn off the entire radio display. I think it is a pretty cool feature when you are driving at night and want little distractions. holding the button again for 7 to 10 seconds will turn the display back to on.

princess

05-28-2005, 06:39 AM

Hey, Welcome iAccord!!!!!!! :D

blownaway

05-28-2005, 12:09 PM

I can't believe I wasn't told about the window trick, I really missed my jetta for that. I love my Accord even more now. Thanks guys :banana:

iAccord

05-28-2005, 01:21 PM

thanks princess, this is my fifth honda product. but first time joining a forum, have been visiting alot of honda forums. This one felt like home when I visited so decided to join.

princess

05-28-2005, 01:59 PM

For the most part....we're just one big family here!

BenjiBoy650

06-08-2005, 06:09 PM

2) Not only are the intermittent wipers speed sensitive, they respond to the brake pedal, too. With the wipers in INT mode, come to a compelte stop. Every time you lift your foot off the brake, they will wipe. Put it on the longest invterval and check it out. Keep tapping the brake pedal, and they'll keep wiping. Hold the pedal and they'll cycle normally.

Not only are the wipers connected to the brake pedal, but also to the parking brake. I came to a stop and held the brake, then pulled the parking brake and released the pedal - no swipe. Then I kept lifting and dropping the e-brake handle and it kept wiping. Pretty neat

psyshack

06-13-2005, 11:04 AM

We bought our 05 sedan ex, 4 at last tuesday. We fully researched the car and no nice little suprizes. We were amazed that I knew more about the car than salesman did and he's a vet. Honda salesman. So the wifes really been enjoying it.

dmaize

06-28-2005, 09:42 AM

Good surprises: the effectiveness of the automatic climate control (I love the a/c off button, since it's been in the high 60s in SF recently), the incredible comfort of the front seats, the bonus 12 volt in the center console with the cord holder underneath--cool!

Not so good: getting the illumination right day vs night on the dash lights, the size of the key, the missing characters on long song titles or band names on XM radio (why can't it scroll? but I do like "RED HOT CHILI PE" he he!)

But overall, very very nice!

stiller fan

06-28-2005, 09:46 AM

agree with the illumination on the dash..... only drawback (i think) of backlit LED dash lights.....

marOne

06-30-2005, 01:58 PM

This is an awseome forum...

This applies to the In dash 6 CD changer, not sure if it applies to the one with Navi...
1. If you hold the CD eject button for 7 or 8 seconds, it will eject all the CDs one after the other
2. If you hold the CD load button for 7 or 8 seconds, it will allow you to load all the CDs one after the other
3. In the AM/FM mode, if you click on R SEL button, the radio will choose the strongest 6 channels in that area (on the presests), but this will not override the presets you have, once you click it again, your preprogrammed presets will be back (this is useful if you are visiting somewhere...)

cheers,

marOne

SSMV6

06-30-2005, 02:01 PM

princess

06-30-2005, 04:24 PM

welcome marOne!! :wave:

psyshack

06-30-2005, 04:43 PM

agree with the illumination on the dash..... only drawback (i think) of backlit LED dash lights.....

Wife and i have found a setting for the dash lights thats real good. I get to go drive it here in abit for a cig run. :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

stiller fan

06-30-2005, 05:16 PM

psyshack,

do you smoke in your car???

psyshack

06-30-2005, 06:09 PM

Yes I smoke in the wifes car. Smoke in my Ranger,, smoke in the house,,, I smoke. will smoke in my new ride,, be it SI or Accord Coupe.

Love the sun roof,,, great ash tray.

Just got back from my smoke run in her car ( its not mine,,, it is her car )

One thing Ive noticed is other honda drivers wave, and such. I find it much like riding a motorcycle. Take me for instance. I own and ride yamahammer Kenny Roberts RZ 350 and asian import red and white RZ 500. The last of the 2 stroke street monsters... And yes there still a force to be respected. But a Orange County Chopper rider or a James Machine west coast style chopper owner always waves as we pass. Its almost a pain. You want to ride... not wave or low peace sign a brother.

Hondas atleast are like that around here. Oklahoma is a kinder gental redneck place.

You dont see chevy or ford freaks waving at each other but Honda Acura drivers always see each other.

Case in point,,, I just left to go get a carton of cigs. A lowered lude with nice wheels, bridgestones, a warmed up inside and clears on the corners pulls up. Driver is a chic... she see's the cord and barks her lude and waves. As if I didnt see her. I slide the wifes cord for her and move on.

Tjis is someting Ive noticed and if theres a suprize to being in a Honda its the fellowship. Wife and I have noticed it. Shes great on a bike with me.. And always noticed the waves we do. No its a Honda thang. And a nice suprize.

theres a reason why folks buy Hondas... i think it has something to do with a smile. :thmsup:

n1accord

07-04-2005, 01:08 PM

One thing Ive noticed is other honda drivers wave, and such. I find it much like riding a motorcycle...theres a reason why folks buy Hondas... i think it has something to do with a smile. :thmsup:

Honda's motorscooter slogan from the 60's may ring a bell:
"You meet the nicest people on (in) a Honda." :wave:

datamac

08-08-2005, 12:02 PM

Hey EXL Navi. I "make" my Honda do the same things. We definitely have the NYC edition complete with niches and dents.
The different voices is weird sounding but I think that's because it has some canned words in its vocabulary and the other words it tries to read the text. It does a poor job at pronunciation but it amusing to hear.
I fool my friends and family all the time into thinking my car responses to a name. My car’s name is Carol for the female voice and Benson for the male.
So I say the “name” first then any voice command after, when the car response they are in awe every time !
Me: “Carol, find nearest Chinese restaurant”
Carol: “Please select from following list or say nearest”
Passengers: “Oh My God !!! she hears you” Stop the car I want to get out !!!!

Make sure you say the voice command last… they’ll never know that all it cares about….
Have fun hehe.

SSMV6

08-08-2005, 12:11 PM

Did you guys know there's a pen holder in our cars (7th gen at least)? It's under the armrest. When you open the top compartment, it's right there next to the ticket holders. :) Just found out on saturday. :D

datamac

08-08-2005, 12:15 PM

That's very Funny Princess :lmao:
I am trying hard not to use the ticket holder, they are extremely expensive in NYC :lmao:

hermann

08-08-2005, 06:42 PM

My favorite is the cup holders with stabilizing fingers. Haven't spilled a drop since I have had the car

kjjust

03-15-2006, 10:59 AM

I couldn't find another place to put this, and I enjoyed re-reading about these features,so....
on the navi screen, touching the compass in the upper corner changes the display from heading to north.

princess

03-15-2006, 11:19 AM

So which way do you usually keep it? We always have ours pointed UP. :)

Spades

03-15-2006, 11:42 AM

I keep mind pointed north. It just doesn't seem nearly as smooth when you have it rotate with the vehicle.

aprayiii

03-16-2006, 06:49 AM

dskulski,
You can also close your sunroof too.!!!

I1:)
OK, this is a GREAT thread :D I learned about the Category setting for XM, and that the visors extend! :banana: I knew about the windows opening with the fob / key in the door, but how do u close the sunroof?

stevencrosbie

03-16-2006, 07:08 AM

You have to close it before you leave the car. You cannot use the key fob to open and close the sunroof.

Now, I think the Acura TL does open the sunroof with the key....

samsonskeg

03-16-2006, 07:11 AM

it beeps if you leave your e-brake up :)

EXLNavi

03-16-2006, 07:13 AM

I keep mind pointed north. It just doesn't seem nearly as smooth when you have it rotate with the vehicle.

That's true and that's the default, but with Navi there's really no need to know which way is North. I find that with the car pointing forward it is much more useful, especially when driving and you have only a quick glance at the navi screen instead of trying to re-orient the map in your head every time.

Maybe our brains are wired differently. :dunno:

aprayiii

03-16-2006, 07:17 AM

You have to close it before you leave the car. You cannot use the key fob to open and close the sunroof.

Now, I think the Acura TL does open the sunroof with the key....
Ahh OK, I thought I missed something. Thanks!
Another thing I love, although it was not a surprise, is the VSA. I also live in Colorado and although we have not had many snow storms this year it has been great. It used to be I would work at home when it snowed so I would not have to slide around. Now I only work at home because I don't want to get the car dirty :lmao:

foxtrot

04-24-2006, 05:21 PM

Interesting how many people owned Integras. I had 5 - last one being the last year 2001. Loved them, but way too noisy for long hauls.

Two not mentioned yet:

Gas pedal does not move when setting / accelerating / decel. cruise control since it is drive by wire (2006).

2006 does have heated side mirrors (not too much use for me here in Florida), but the heated seats are nice on long trips. Now if they would just add a massager.

Even if you hit the "off" button for the climate control, air still blows in slightly. To get that off, turn the "recirc" on.

BenjiBoy650

04-24-2006, 05:23 PM

The gas pedal not moving annoys the crap out of me in the ML320. When I want to resume normal driving (ie. cruise off), I can never tell how hard to press the pedal before I get it to hold speed, then I can click cancel. It's so smooth in all our other normal throttle cars, but in the DBW, you either have to accel (push the pedal past where equilibrium is so when you turn off cruise you don't decel) or decel as mentioned.

The air feature is standard part of every car...

Spades

04-24-2006, 05:23 PM

I really like the amber console light. It looks pretty cool when there aren't any street lights around at night.

funnyperson1

08-10-2006, 08:07 PM

Believe it or not, I was surprised when I found out the back seat folded down. The salesman at the Honda dealership actually specifically mentioned that the Accord LX back seat didn't completely fold down, and only that little center window opened.

What he should have said is that the whole seat folds down, and you can't do 60/40 like with the Civic we had looked at first :rolleyes:

AccordingToThis

08-10-2006, 08:18 PM

thumbs up: I love the hidden power outlet in the center armrest.

thumbs down: I wish the stock headunit had CD-TEXT like Volkswagens do. :(

Railroad

08-10-2006, 09:04 PM

Believe it or not, I was surprised when I found out the back seat folded down.

I just found that out a few days ago on my '00 Accord. I thought it couldn't be folded down, but there was the key hole & the opening cut already. The key hole for some reason doesn't want to turn, so whenever I want to use folded seats, I have to use the trunk release.

By the way, how do you extend the sun visors? There isn't anything that I can pull out.

2006AccordV6Lvr

08-10-2006, 09:20 PM

I tried today to roll up the windows with the key in the door and turning it and holding it but it didn't work. How do you do it? This was surprise #3 on this thread.

xmangx87

08-10-2006, 09:44 PM

I tried today to roll up the windows with the key in the door and turning it and holding it but it didn't work. How do you do it? This was surprise #3 on this thread.

You have to turn it once and then hold it the second time.

kosherbacon

08-11-2006, 07:30 AM

Great thread.

I'm with everyone on the automatically opening windows and the variable winshield washers being among my favorite surprise features.

I have another though--I was the owner of a portable GPS device before purchasing my Accord and found that it lost a satellite signal whenever the view of the sky was obscured in any way (trees, buildings, tunnels, etc.). I assumed that the Honda NAVI would behave onbly slightly better because the antenna is mounted on the outside. Instead I found that the GPS from Honda NEVER loses its signal. REPEAT--I have NEVER lost the signal, even driving through tunnels in and out of New York and Baltimore. :jawdrop:

Anyone know how that works?

slickdoody

08-11-2006, 07:33 AM

Honda may be using a SIRF chipset in the navi. Some of the newest sirf chips are so sensitive they supposedly even work indoors. http://www.sirf.com/products-ss3.html

SSMV6

08-11-2006, 09:30 AM

By the way, how do you extend the sun visors? There isn't anything that I can pull out.
Just swing the visor to the side and pull. ;) The whole visor slides out.

Anyone know how that works?
The Navi is also connected to the VSS so it will know how fast you're going at all times. When you're in the tunnels, it will be able to approximate where you are just by how fast you're travelling. It will lose satellite lock when the view is obstruucted, it just get the lock again when there's a clear view of the skys again.

Railroad

08-11-2006, 01:04 PM

Odd, I tried pulling it yesterday and it doesn't extend. Manual doesn't say anything about it either. Is it not in the '06s maybe?

Windchimp

08-11-2006, 01:17 PM

Odd, I tried pulling it yesterday and it doesn't extend. Manual doesn't say anything about it either. Is it not in the '06s maybe?

They extend on my 06 EX...what model do you have?

EDIT:

Just went out and checked...Owners Manual Pg 96...should be in all models :dunno:

PULL HARDER! :naughty: :nuts:

Railroad

08-11-2006, 02:12 PM

P.96...don't quite remember but I believe that was the "Interior Covenience" page. Sunvisor page was on p. 94.

I'll check it when I go home later.

Mine is a '06 Accord Hybrid.

faderrific

08-11-2006, 02:20 PM

I know the voice feedback with the Navi isn't a trick or anything. But, when I first bought my car used, I thought the button on the steering wheel was to mute the stereo for if you got a call or something.

You wouldn't believe how surprised I was when I was driving home from the dealership and got a phone call. I pushed the little button and started my phone conversation, 10 seconds later I hear the car say "Pardon me". I hung up the phone and started saying random things, none of which worked. It wasn't until I got the car home and went through the voice command options, that I found out what the car could really do. Man, was I happy to have voice command, the dealership (Chevy) had no idea it was there!

SSMV6

08-11-2006, 02:29 PM

P.96...don't quite remember but I believe that was the "Interior Covenience" page. Sunvisor page was on p. 94.

I'll check it when I go home later.

Mine is a '06 Accord Hybrid.
Don't pull harder then.... Much to my surprise, the sun visors are NOT extendable on the Hybrids. They are extendable on the rest of the lineup though. DX/VP does not have lighted mirrors behind them but they DO extend.

Barry45RPM

08-11-2006, 02:45 PM

slickdoody

08-11-2006, 05:50 PM

I believe the NAVI unit DOES lose the signal when it is blocked, but has a buffer & knows where you were last & knows the vehicles speed & can sort of "guestimate" your location correctly for a short while.

I believe that's called dead reckoning.

SCABADA

08-13-2006, 11:52 PM

A nice surprise was how the front license plate holder isn't drilled into the bumper. The front end looks really nice with the plate and holder off.

kosherbacon

08-14-2006, 05:48 AM

faderrific

08-14-2006, 07:36 AM

A nice surprise was how the front license plate holder isn't drilled into the bumper. The front end looks really nice with the plate and holder off.

Mine had a hole drilled right square in the middle when I took off the holder. It's so small though that, it doesn't matter.

lee0073

08-14-2006, 08:14 AM

Faderrific....

The hole left behind when the front licence plate holder was removed can be filled in at a bodyshop.

A few years back, had a bodyshop fill the holes left behind when the front licence plate holder was removed from a GMC Jimmy - front licence plates are not required in Alberta.

On another note....
Would like to say, this is a great thread! :thmsup: :thmsup: Thanks, for resurrecting this thread which I probably never would have found. Tried some of the surprises mentioned, they work in my 06 LX-SE.
Disk Repeat
Loading multiple CDs
Turning off Radio LCD Display – also turns off hazard light illumination
Power Window illumination

SSMV6

10-02-2006, 01:25 PM

The rear headrests go up and down more than just a click or two! I never knew they moved before. :blah:

jermy4

10-02-2006, 07:25 PM

The first thing I did when I got my car was put them all the way down. When I looked in my rear view mirror all I saw was headrests :lmao:

mypp

10-03-2006, 09:12 AM

The first thing I did when I got my car was put them all the way down. When I looked in my rear view mirror all I saw was headrests :lmao:
i still do, and mine are already all the way down :P

Barry45RPM

10-03-2006, 12:08 PM

I don't think that this is the case. I've gotten caught in traffic in tunnels and it doesn't show me in motion... :dunno:

If youre stuck in traffic, you're not moving. Also, these units are NOT accurate to a couple of car lengths. Ever notice how they tell you to turn almost too late?

BenjiBoy650

10-03-2006, 12:15 PM

Ever notice how they tell you to turn almost too late?
That's weird, they should have programmed it to tell you to turn very early to avoid this...but oh well :dunno:

mnkyman

10-03-2006, 12:50 PM

EXLNavi

10-03-2006, 01:27 PM

The navi units use the VSS signal as well as sensors to guesstimate when no GPS signal is available as well as a gyrocompass. Some aftermarket wired in GPSes use the VSS as well.

It's not perfect, but more accurate than a standalone unit that uses GPS only. Civilian GPS is only accurate to within a few meters.

faderrific

10-03-2006, 03:18 PM

for those of you that have a trunk spoiler, next time you open the trunk take a look at the engraved "Accord" centered under the spoiler, inbetween the trunk and spoiler.

lol noticed it for the first time today.
I noticed that the first time I detailed my car. It's weird. It serves no purpose at all and can't be seen by anyone (unless you run them over :paranoid: ).

SSMV6

10-03-2006, 03:20 PM

It actually has a purpose of showing that it's a genuine Honda accessory wing spoiler vs a generic wing spoiler... The ones on the Civic says "CIVIC" instead of "ACCORD", etc... This is the real reason why Honda spoilers cost twice as much as generic knock-offs! :lmao:

skinned_knee

10-03-2006, 08:16 PM

Nicest surprise since I got my Accord? Finding this forum! :thmsup:

gaviota

10-14-2006, 10:20 PM

The nicest surprise for me was how good the Accord is at high speeds. This is due mainly to the 5 speed automatic transmission. All my previous cars had 4 speed autos or 5 speed manuals, and non had an overdrive as tall as the 5th gear in this Accord. At 110 mph the engine is doing just 3600rpm.

The other nice surprise was the power from the 4 cylinder engine. I wanted a V6, but I got a really good deal on one of the last remaining 2006 models, all of which were 4 cylinders. For a V6 I would've had to get a 2007 model, and that meant a $4500 price increase, so I took the 4 cylinder. I don't regret it, its smooth, power is excellent, actually feels like a V6 on hills.

Dislikes are few. I hate it when something falls between the front seats and the center console, I can't get my hand in there to pick stuff. I've owned this car for only 3 weeks, and there's already a pen and several coins in there which I can't get out.

saxdogg

10-15-2006, 09:41 AM

I hate it when something falls between the front seats and the center console, I can't get my hand in there to pick stuff. I've owned this car for only 3 weeks, and there's already a pen and several coins in there which I can't get out.

:lmao: :lmao:

Me too! I swear I've dropped every pen from the bank's drive-thru in there...

stiller fan

10-15-2006, 10:32 AM

eh, a honda flaw, if there ever was one....

not even sure what's b/w the seats and the center console of my car...... :nuts:

BenjiBoy650

10-15-2006, 10:33 AM

That's weird I have somewhat big hands and I've always been able to extract everything I've ever dropped between the seat/console. Pushing the seat forward all the way and crawling underneath it from the backseat helps sometimes too.

kkn_egg

10-15-2006, 12:15 PM

probably not a surprise to any of you guys/gals but it was for me as i discovered the lumbar adjusting lever on the driver seat about 5 months after i got my car. funny enough, i dropped a straw going thru drive thru and looked over and saw a lever... pulled on it... WALLA!! oh well.. me dumb

saxdogg

10-15-2006, 02:42 PM

BenjiBoy650

10-15-2006, 02:44 PM

LOL, I never said I TRIED to get them! :paranoid:
You're just waiting for them to jam on the seat tracks aren't you? :thumbsup:

saxdogg

10-15-2006, 04:36 PM

You're just waiting for them to jam on the seat tracks aren't you? :thumbsup:

Ahhh...that's the beauty of it...NO ONE else drives my car, therefore the seats never move! My wife won't drive it until I dent it or it gets scratched...a new behavior brought on by a certain automatic gate incident with my new maxima in 02.

skinned_knee

10-15-2006, 07:20 PM

Funny you should say that - my wife won't drive mine either - says she's afraid something will happen to it. She knows how much I love this car - it's just... different, somehow...

Drocca07

04-20-2007, 03:39 PM

I'd like to bump this thread and ask that the Mods make it a sticky. I came across it by accident, then lost it, THEN found it again, thanks to the help of princess via PM. It has such a wealth of information, I think everyone should have immediate access to it.

Some of the things I learned from here are:

1. Holding down the CD button turns off the entire display.

2. Holding down the RPT button changes it to D-RPT, where the entire disc is repeated, instead of just one track.

3. The slide-out armrest.

4. The pen and ticket holders underneath the cover of the armrest.

5. Holding down the eject button or the load button will eject all of your discs at once or load them all at once, respectively.

Personally, I think this thread, alone, makes this site so worthwhile and necessary for any Accord owner. I know that I owe a ton of gratitude to all of the people who contributed to this and pointed out things that Honda should've had in the manual.

What do you say, Mods? Can we make this a sticky, or do we just rely on sending thousands of PMs to princess? :D

bugg-z

04-20-2007, 08:22 PM

the window rolldown with the remote is that in sedans or the coupes also?

Nimoxp

04-20-2007, 08:29 PM

the window rolldown with the remote is that in sedans or the coupes also?

Yep coupes also. If you put the key in the door slot and turn it twice to the left (maybe right on some cars) and keep it turned you can roll the windows up.Why they dont have the ability to raise it with the key escapes me. :thumbsdow

ci54

04-22-2007, 07:45 PM

:wave: Hi everyone,

This is such a great find. Learnt a few things here with regards to the cd changer.

The things I found out in this car may not be a big deal to everyone here but here they are:

1) The grade logic transmission is great when going up or downhill. She seem to shift up or down just at the correct moment.
2) The torque of the V6. Makes lane changing and passing slower cars a cinch. :banana:
3) The engine sound is simply terrific. It's so quiet at normal speeds but is classical concerto when pushed hard. Never intrusive, just pure listening pleasure! Maybe that's why Honda didn't put in more expensive speakers? :dunno:

andysinnh

04-23-2007, 08:45 AM

Yep coupes also. If you put the key in the door slot and turn it twice to the left (maybe right on some cars) and keep it turned you can roll the windows up.Why they dont have the ability to raise it with the key escapes me. :thumbsdow
I asked the same question of a district rep once about my '05 Accord and the inability to do the roll-up from the key fob. Answer? Safety. They figure if you're at the car with the key in the lock, you can see all 4 windows and make sure a pet or kid doesn't have some appendage hanging outside. If you're away from the car with the remote, and hit the lock 3 times to make the windows go up, you may not see what's in the way.... Or so I was told. :D Makes sense, though...

andy

Drocca07

04-24-2007, 05:29 PM

I asked the same question of a district rep once about my '05 Accord and the inability to do the roll-up from the key fob. Answer? Safety. They figure if you're at the car with the key in the lock, you can see all 4 windows and make sure a pet or kid doesn't have some appendage hanging outside. If you're away from the car with the remote, and hit the lock 3 times to make the windows go up, you may not see what's in the way.... Or so I was told. :D Makes sense, though...

andy

But I thought the windows had safety sensors on them, to tell if something is in the way of the window rolling all of the way up? As soon as the window hits the obstruction, it immediately rolls down to the halfway point. I know the driver's window on my '07 does that...

07ACC4DREXL-V6

04-27-2007, 08:35 AM

if you hold down the + / - button on the steering wheel while playing a CD it changes from skip to FF on that track

Drocca07

04-27-2007, 02:45 PM

if you hold down the + / - button on the steering wheel while playing a CD it changes from skip to FF on that track
Get out of here! No way! I'm going out right now to try it...

Drocca07

04-27-2007, 02:51 PM

///MMB

04-27-2007, 03:42 PM

I didnt know how to dim the gauge cluster at nite till about ~80k miles :(. I have ~122k now. lol

ADDORC

04-27-2007, 03:44 PM

Um, well, no, it didn't. I don't know if it's me or what, but I have an '07 SE Sedan and I can't hold down the + / - buttons at the same time. It's a rocker button, which means that it can only have one end held down at a time. I tried other variations, too, but no luck. :dunno:

Any ideals?

What I think 07ACC4DREXL-V6 meant to say was that if you hold down the + OR - button for a couple of seconds on the steering wheel fast forwards or rewinds a track. Pressing either one briefly bumps to either the next or previous track, of course. They can't both be pressed at the same time.

Trip

05-02-2007, 05:58 AM

The Accord steering wheel controls don't allow you to fast forward CD tracks. The CR-V and Civic, do tho. I wish the steering wheel control could also be used to TUNE the radio station, too. I sometimes find that more convenient than jumping thru the presets.

In repsonse to an earlier post: "Holding the CD button will turn off the radio/HVAC display in most models." Holding the CD button does work on NAVI models but it only turns off the upper display. Press and hold to turn it on again or it will come on next time the engine is started. The main screen has to be turned off separately under SETUP.

Invero

05-02-2007, 02:04 PM

The Accord steering wheel controls don't allow you to fast forward CD tracks. The CR-V and Civic, do tho.

My 2005 EX-L allows me to FF through tracks with the steering wheel. Maybe some other versions or years of the controls don't?

gewf631

05-03-2007, 08:09 AM

My 2005 EX-L allows me to FF through tracks with the steering wheel. Maybe some other versions or years of the controls don't?
The steering wheel controls on my '06 EX-L, allow me to jump forward or backward an entire TRACK, but I have to use the dash controls if I want to FF or FR within a track.

MotorCity Honda

05-03-2007, 09:16 AM

The steering wheel controls on my '06 EX-L, allow me to jump forward or backward an entire TRACK, but I have to use the dash controls if I want to FF or FR within a track.

+1, also when in radio mode my steering wheel controls will only tune in my preset stations and not go to the next available signal on the dial.

Drocca07

05-03-2007, 05:24 PM

lebomb

05-04-2007, 08:53 AM

Just checked out my '07 SE Sedan and the + / - button works only for the next track, not to FF or REVERSE through a song. Held each respective button down for ten seconds, but no luck. Oh, well. :dunno:

I have a 2004 EX-L and the +/- button works for next track and also FF and REVERSE through a song. :banana:

Drocca07

05-06-2007, 08:24 AM

I have a 2004 EX-L and the +/- button works for next track and also FF and REVERSE through a song. :banana:
Must be an EX-L thing, because mine won't do it. Wonder why?

Drocca07

05-06-2007, 08:25 AM

Wow! I just noticed that this thread is a sticky now! Thanks to whoever put it up. I'm sure it'll be of some help to all the newcomers. :thmsup:

Dreamacre

05-23-2007, 06:31 AM

I have a 2004 EX-L and the +/- button works for next track and also FF and REVERSE through a song. :banana:

Same on my 2005 EX-L. :dunno:

AccordingToThis

05-23-2007, 11:55 AM

Doesn't work on my 2004 EX-L Sedan.

lebomb

05-24-2007, 07:22 AM

Doesn't work on my 2004 EX-L Sedan.

Ok.....that blows the EX-L theory out of the water. :dunno:

I use this function all the time on my Accord. :thmsup:

bruinfanjb

05-24-2007, 09:18 AM

The tune button on the actual stereo unit works for fast forwarding/rewinding through the song. Too bad it doesn't work from the steering wheel controls though.

superdude

05-24-2007, 09:25 AM

The tune button on the actual stereo unit works for fast forwarding/rewinding through the song. Too bad it doesn't work from the steering wheel controls though.

i heard for some people it works on steering wheels while others doesn't. as for me, it allow me too Seek when play cd and Ipod using the SC.

Drocca07

05-24-2007, 02:04 PM

i heard for some people it works on steering wheels while others doesn't. as for me, it allow me too Seek when play cd and Ipod using the SC.
Damn peculiar. Wonder why it's like that...

Ramon

05-24-2007, 04:52 PM

i heard for some people it works on steering wheels while others doesn't.
Let's see if we can establish a pattern. Here's my info:
2006 EX Sedan
V6 + 6MT
Manufacture Date ??? (Need to go and check)
Made in Ohio
Purchased July 2006
6-CD Changer - Yes
Navi - Yes
FF/Rewind via steering wheel buttons - NO
Anyone else?

AccordingToThis

05-24-2007, 09:15 PM

Maybe it's a Sedan vs. Coupe thing.

I have:

2004 EX-L I4/AT sedan (6CD in-dash changer)
Manufactured in Ohio, December 2003.

Invero

05-24-2007, 09:15 PM

I have a 2005 EX-L Sedan... No Navi, and my steering wheel buttons DO ff/rew.

I'm wondering if it's the non-Navi?

AccordingToThis

05-24-2007, 09:20 PM

I have a 2005 EX-L Sedan... No Navi, and my steering wheel buttons DO ff/rew.

I'm wondering if it's the non-Navi?

That could be it.

Ramon

05-24-2007, 11:36 PM

I'm wondering if it's the non-Navi?
So far, it appears to work on the non-navi models from 2005, and maybe late-2004. Does anyone know if there was a head unit model/manufacturer change around that time?

EX-L_KABONG

05-25-2007, 07:19 AM

Yep, ditto here. My 07 EX-L non-Navi does FF/REW from the steering wheel. Just tried it this morning...another toy! :D

Invero

05-25-2007, 08:26 AM

So far, it appears to work on the non-navi models from 2005, and maybe late-2004. Does anyone know if there was a head unit model/manufacturer change around that time?
I believe that was around the introduction of XM... so possibly the XM non-navi headunits are capable of it, while the rest are not?

ItsaHonda

05-25-2007, 08:35 AM

I read this and had to go out and try it in the 07, and sure enough... it works! The specs are in my sig. I'm sure it would've worked in the 06 as well. Good to know considering how exhausting it is to reach for the headunit itself.

Ramon

05-25-2007, 11:44 AM

Another possibility ... Maybe it only works on non-navi with dual-zone/auto-climate AC? :dunno:

Drocca07

05-25-2007, 04:40 PM

Well, I have a 2007 SE Sedan, non-Navi, and it doesn't do it on mine. Go figure. :thumbsdow

Ramon

05-25-2007, 04:55 PM

Well, I have a 2007 SE Sedan, non-Navi, and it doesn't do it on mine. Go figure. :thumbsdow
I'm not sure, but doesn't the SE have the manually-operated AC, as opposed to the auto-climate system? That's the reason I'm suspecting that it's the auto-climate that makes the difference.

ItsaHonda

05-25-2007, 05:13 PM

I'm not sure, but doesn't the SE have the manually-operated AC, as opposed to the auto-climate system?>>>

Only Accords with leather (EXLs) have the auto climate control... so it seems that so far, only 2004-current EXLs w/out navi have the FF/RW functions on the steering wheel.

princess

05-25-2007, 07:07 PM

Someone should start a poll in the poll section about it if you're curious..... :)

I know my '03 doesn't control anything but volume & changing "tracks"....well, mode for what to listen to.... at the wheel. I tested it out. Drove Jarrison nuts!! :D

Ramon

05-25-2007, 07:22 PM

Only Accords with leather (EXLs) have the auto climate control... so it seems that so far, only 2004-current EXLs w/out navi have the FF/RW functions on the steering wheel.
Exactly what I'm suspecting :yes: . The EX-L (I4) and the EX-V6 (a.k.a. EX-L V6) without navi seem to have a unique head unit because of the auto climate control.

Someone should start a poll in the poll section about it if you're curious.....
That's what I tried to do (in a less organized manner :rolleyes: ) a few posts up.