: Sad sight for a new Civic
12-23-2005, 05:11 PM
Thought some of us who like seeing how cars hold up in crashes might enjoy this.
Notice how there was no side damage but the curtain still deployed???
I can confirm that this Civic only had 808 miles. It was a life lived short.
12-23-2005, 06:41 PM
It's interesting that the side curtain airbag deployed, but the passenger's front airbag didn't, especially with that corner being the impact point. I know that on my Pilot and the Accord it has a sensor on the pass seat so that if someone small/light is in there it won't deploy, but I thought it also held true for the side airbags as well...
12-23-2005, 07:13 PM
Looks like the driver should have had no problem walking away from that accident. It is curious about the curtain deploying, what gives?
12-23-2005, 07:21 PM
from the first picture it looks like the passenger side right was hit too, maybe that would explain the curtain airbag.
edit: oops I meant the 2nd picture
12-23-2005, 07:24 PM
I had a new guess on the Curtain now that I've looked at the pics more. Maybe the curtain deployed because the sensors in the passengers seat can only prevent the Torso and front airbag. I say this because someone who isn't large enough for those airbags to deploy shouldn't be able to keep a possible rear passenger from getting sufficient head protection in the event of a collision. Therfore Honda addressed the issue by knowing that the head airbags have no real force when they deploy that would cause anything but maybe a burn from the heat of the bag to any sized passenger. This knowledge then allowed them to keep the rear passengers safe in the head as well.
12-23-2005, 07:36 PM
If I have it right -
- Passenger airbag did not deploy because there was no passenger, or the weight was below 40lbs. OPD will prevent deployment of the passenger airbag in such a case.
- Side curtain airbag deployed because it was struck from the passenger side. The sensors for the side curtain airbag do not take into account whether any passengers were there or not, IIRC, just the force and point of the impact.
This makes sense because the driver can still be tossed around (if he/she wasn't wearing a seatbelt) so the side curtain airbags would at least provide some protection.
12-23-2005, 09:00 PM
If I remember right, wouldn't the side curtain airbag not deploy if someone was leaning on the window ledge? I remember reading that about the Accord (Passenger position detection or something = Weight and position).
The safety designers surely did their homework on the new civic. Shame about it being so new and immediately in an acident. Driver and passengers I hope ok? Who's car, anyone you know?
12-24-2005, 02:09 AM
thats the side airbag in the seat since it literally comes out right where your body is. i dont think the side curtains are affected though. i mean if the front passenger is leaning on the door, that shouldnt have to make the rear passenger more prone to injury in a side crash.
12-24-2005, 03:45 AM
Well, this qualifies for the first dent award.....................ouch!
Passenger seat sensors will only affect how the front and side seat airbags deploy. Even if a smaller person/child was on the side of the car where the curtain airbag deployed, it doesn't look like they would be exposed to any danger from the airbag. The passenger airbag probably didn't deploy because there was no one in the seat or it was a smaller person? It would have been interesting to see where the pass airbag comes out of the dash.
The pass side curtain and the driver's front airbag look like a weird combination to have gone off. You would think if it was hit from the other side the driver airbag wouldn't deploy. After examining the pic a little more, it looks like the car may have been hit dead on at 3/4 to the passenger front/side. Doesn't the engine look like the mounts collapsed and the engine is tilted forward? Or is the engine normally mounted with the plugs almost facing forward?
Any idea what hit it? Car? SUV? Over all it looks like the ACE structure worked great. There's no deformation to the cabin at all. :thmsup:
12-24-2005, 05:47 PM
Side curtain will stay deploy regardless of OPDS front seat passenger, because it covers the rear seat as well and there is no sensor there.
12-24-2005, 05:53 PM
God bless you for making the point 'clear and simple'! :yes: :yes: :yes:
12-24-2005, 07:05 PM
and the driver airbag went off because it will always go off in a severe enough frontal impact. the driver airbag doesnt take into account driver stature or weight like the passenger bag does.
since the car was hit in the front right, the rear of the car will drift to the left because inertia of the left side of the car will pull it that way. when the rear of the car drifts left, passengers will be thrown to the right, hence side curtain deployment on the right side.
if you look at the IIHS frontal offset crash test, they crash the left front into a barrier, rear of car flies to the right, and left side curtains are deployed. (opposite scenario of this civic)
12-24-2005, 09:05 PM
ACK!!! Goes out and puts rugged rubber baby buggy bumpers on new Civic!!!!!!!!!