View Full Version : Michelin Pilot S8 or Goodyear TripleTred
Rottenappel 01-08-2006, 12:52 AM After about 50,000 miles of aggressive driving it is time to replace my tires. I know that the S8's are standard on the new Accords but I wanted to see if they were worth the expense. Any word from new Accord drivers? The Goodyear's are cheaper, look more aggressive and claim to be of similar performance but I would hate to miss out on a good thing with the S8's.
2003 Accord EX V6 Navi Nighthawk Black Pearl
BenjiBoy650 01-08-2006, 08:54 AM I'd say go for the Goodyears. It seems pretty unanimous that the Michelin's are decent at best (more like not that great...), and they are really expensive. Plus people have said the Goodyears are cheap and I haven't heard a bad review about them yet.
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Rottenappel 01-10-2006, 08:12 PM I just got the TripleTreds tonight, so far so good.
SSMV6 01-11-2006, 02:30 PM Many people have been very happy with the Triple Treads. I'm fine with the OEM S8's on everything except snow/ice. Although they were better than other all-season tires I've tried, they still didn't give me too much confidence on slick roads.
Rottenappel, please post a follow-up of your thoughts on your new tires. I'm sure you're going to be happy with them.
Rottenappel 01-11-2006, 07:12 PM I am going to give it a month before I give a a full review. I want to make sure that I have plenty of information on mulitple surfaces and gas mileage before I make a recommendation. I am sure I will get plenty of snow and ice practice here in Minnesota this month! After about 100 miles I have to say that I like them, they have a super grip on dry asphalt, no chirping like the stock Michelins (2003 did not come with S8s just Energy MXV4s I think)
ken972 01-12-2006, 03:56 AM Ive been on the fence about which tire to by myself. Ive been leaning more torwards the bridgestone turanza LSH or V. Ive been reading where the tripletread had a real noticeable effect on gas mileage. The turanza seems to be a good compromise for comfort/grip/mileage.
Rottenappel 01-12-2006, 04:55 AM I will post a mileage comparison after my first full tank of gas on the new tires.
04EXNavi 01-18-2006, 06:38 AM I've had my Tripletreds for a little over a month...I personally haven't noticed much change in fuel economy - if it's changed, it's under 5%.
I will say that the Tripletred's grip in the wet is very good...you can pull maneuvers that would have been just stupid to try on the stock Michelins. :thmsup:
CometVR4 01-18-2006, 12:07 PM The triple treads have a really high tread wear rating. I think 80,000 Miles
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireProductCategoryDetailBrnd.do?tpc=GDYHHD&tp=Passenger%2FPerformance
Rottenappel 01-18-2006, 07:56 PM I have also seen little change in gas mileage after two tanks. The grip on these tires is awesome. The cloverleafs on my way to work don't stand a chance anymore. The stock Michelins would chirp like crazy if I took a cloverleaf too fast but the Goodyears don't make a peep.
ken972 01-24-2006, 05:40 PM It sounds like the triple treads are great for spirited driving...how do they compare to the S8's on the highway?
White 03 01-24-2006, 08:43 PM Are the triple treads V rated?
ken972 01-25-2006, 01:48 AM The triple treads are H rated
ken972 02-01-2006, 02:14 PM So im sure someone has gone 75/80 with the tripletreads on the highway...how was the ride compared to the oem S8's? Im almost convinced to get the goodyears for my accord.
cd66312 07-31-2009, 01:47 PM Just got potenza r760 on mine, night and day difference to those useless bridgestones.
evident 08-02-2009, 06:17 PM how do the tripletreads compare to yokahama avid a4's ? my sister got hers on her 04 and it handles very nice. i still have about 20k+ on my tires but never too early to get some advice.
rudyjr 08-11-2009, 08:07 AM I have had Goodyear Tripletreads on my car for three years and I can say that these are the worst tires I have ever owned. First the tread wear was dismal for an 80k tire. 4/32 left at 48k. Second the noise from these things was incredible regardless of balance and rotation. Third my gas mileage was noticably worse. I put Michilens on and my problems have disappeared. Granted this is on my daily driver work car (my Camry) but we have been happy with the Michilens on my wifes 06 Accord so I figured what the heck.Just my 2 cents
flippco 08-13-2009, 08:29 AM I am having a hard time deciding whether to go with the Triple Tread or the Pilot Exalto A/S. I still have time, I'll need new tires before winter.
Both tires are rated well by Consumer Reports and on Discount Tire.
boxster 08-13-2009, 01:01 PM I just replaced my Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 that came on the Accord with Nitto Neo Gen.
Huge difference in handling with a slight increase in road noise.
lebomb 08-13-2009, 01:14 PM Michelins over Goodyear any day of the week.
Furple 08-13-2009, 03:53 PM I would expect a noticeable drop in fuel economy from the triple treds. I was looking into them and they are pretty heavy at 25lbs. In comparison the stock tires on my 03 are 19lbs. Of course the trade off is grip and price. Stock tires have pretty terrible grip and squeal a lot.
In the end I decided to get a dedicated snow since I have summer wheels and tires. And the winter tires are 23lbs which seems about average tire weight in stock size 205/60/16.
MakingWaves 08-13-2009, 04:57 PM I am also looking for Michelin replacements right now for my 04 sedan I4 5A.
I prefer quietness/tread life and all-season rather than performance. Are Michelins the right brand to consider, and what model tire? I have the stock 4-cyl 5-spoke OEM rims which I am planning to keep. The car is never driven in snow.
I have 67K miles on my original Michelins, which are 5.5 years old. Open to suggestions!
DeeAgeaux 08-13-2009, 11:42 PM I am also looking for Michelin replacements right now for my 04 sedan I4 5A.
I prefer quietness/tread life and all-season rather than performance. Open to suggestions!
General Altimax HP
Kumho LX Platinum
Yokohama YK520(Discout/Americas) or Avid Touring-S
Toyo Versado LX
Are Michelins the right brand to consider
Only if you are buying their absolute top of the line $250 plus per tire.
Other than that, you are paying a huge premium for the Michelin name.
rszappa1 08-14-2009, 03:48 AM Yes Michelins are good look at the Primacy MXV4 it is a great tire...
07graphiteV6cpe 08-14-2009, 04:03 AM I have the Yokahama Avid A4's and there is no road noise whatsoever. The handling is superb on dry surfaces. I never drive in rain or snow so I can't comment on this application. I will replace these with the same when the time comes.
superballz00 08-14-2009, 02:20 PM I am also looking for Michelin replacements right now for my 04 sedan I4 5A.
I prefer quietness/tread life and all-season rather than performance. Are Michelins the right brand to consider, and what model tire? I have the stock 4-cyl 5-spoke OEM rims which I am planning to keep. The car is never driven in snow.
I have 67K miles on my original Michelins, which are 5.5 years old. Open to suggestions!
Michelin tires are overrated IMO. They are good but not great and cost way too much. I would go with the Bridgestone Serenity over the Michelin Primacy if you want to spend the money or the General Altimax HP if you don't want to spend the money. The Bridgestone will have better tread life than the General and should be a tad quieter.
03AZAccord 08-15-2009, 07:51 PM I have to say that I am very happy with these tires.
1, they maintain the V rating. 2, they don't cost as much as Michelins.
At first they were Soooo much quieter than the old Michelins. Seems like these Kumho's are progressively getting louder, but still not as loud as the old Michelins were. Kumho's are supposed to be a 50K tire and it seems that they are on track to do that. I got 67K out of the orignal Michelins and that just seems to be outstanding wear, have never seen that before and probalby won't again unless I spend the $200 each for another set of Michelins.
mb1976 08-15-2009, 08:14 PM Obviously, the Goodyear Triple Threads are going to be a louder riding tires being that they are directional tread design. Those type design tires tends to be more on the loud side then a simple asymmetric tread design. I have a set of Goodyear Eagleresponsdge and they are actually just as good or even better then the Michelin MXV4 S8's I had on before. Also, the costs alot less as well. Mine lasted till 61,000 miles I had 4/32 tread dept left and it was not safe for wet conditions after hydroplaning on few minor puddles I went out and bought the Responsedge and they ride pretty good wet traction is great it rides smooth but a little firm and sensitive to certain road conditions like grooves or if the road a has a slight slant to the left or right it will sorta pull in either direction at times making it feel like a radial pull or something.
frainc 08-16-2009, 07:13 AM I just put on Toyo Versado LX and what a diffence they make over the OEM
Michelins. Handling improved and nice and quite.
Paid $130 for each and very happy so far.
MakingWaves 08-18-2009, 04:47 AM Having close to 68K miles on my original set of tires, I will be purchasing the OEM replacements today from tirerack for my 2004 sedan I4 5A.
Decided on the Michelin Energy MXV4 S8 (Grand Touring All-Seasons) in size P205/60R16. :banana:
The speed rating of my original tires is 91V. The question is should I stay at V or downgrade to the H speed rating? Knowing that V has a firmer sidewall, a new set of tires with the original speed rating of V would also have familiar cornering and braking characteristics. :yes:
Knowing that I am a conservative driver who has never exceeded 80 mph on the highway, rarely 75 mph, and frequently stay at 65-70 on the highway, would the higher speed rating also mean additional tread life in this case? The driving conditions I encounter are 60% stop-and-go, 30% short highway trips (2 hours or less), and 10% long trips (3-4 hours). In my 5.5 years of ownership, the car never has more than 1 passenger with the back seat and trunk unused, and has occasionally been driven in rain but never snow.
Since this tire purchase is a "major" decision, I appreciate your insights and advice! :thmsup:
rszappa1 08-20-2009, 05:37 AM If you do a search there was a long list of comments on the speed rating.....I went from a v to an h with no problems at all....Michelin Primacy MXV4...
nolefan32 08-20-2009, 06:45 AM According to TireRack.com, the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred and the Michelin Primacy MXV4 are two of the top-rated tires out there. They list the Goodyear as being a better-suited all-around (touring) tire; the Michelin they suggest for a performance car. Basically, get the Goodyear if you value a softer ride, the Michelin if you prefer better handling. They're also both relatively expensive.
Two rather inexpensive performance tires they list as being very good are the Dunlop SP Signature Sport and the Yokohama Avid V4s. I personally have the Yokohamas and I've been very happy with them, but the reviews have the Dunlops running neck-in-neck in pretty much every scoring. For a softer touring tire on a budget, they recommend the Yokohama Avid TRZ, which I had on my Civic and was very happy with as well (part of the reason I opted for the Avid V4s over the Dunlops when I wanted a performance tire on my Accord, my previous satisfaction with the Avid TRZ on the Civic).
As for H tires vs V tires, most outlets recommend not going lower than the OEM speed rating. If your car came with V tires, as a rule its probably not a good idea to go below that. You can go above it, though that generally means stiffer sidewalls (translating to a harsher ride), as well as lower treadlife warranties. The good news is that most street tires out there are either H or V rated, so you have lots of options within those ratings.
I do recommend paying a visit to TireRack.com. Even if you're planning to get your tires from a brick-and-mortar store, TireRack has some great information and resources to help you ensure you're getting exactly the tire you want/need.
07graphiteV6cpe 08-20-2009, 06:57 AM If you were buying a tire strictly for rain and snow use and you could afford to buy any tire what tire would you buy?
rszappa1 08-20-2009, 08:14 AM Michelin Hydroedge
honda761 09-16-2009, 05:44 PM Just today I replaced my Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S with the Pilot Sport A/S plus. Holy crap the difference in grip is pretty big. A nice surprise is the nose difference, for a ultra high performance tire the Pilot Sport Plus is very very quiet.
My Pilot Exaltos had 50k on them and probably another 10k to go but the noise and ride comfort were going downhill fast. These tires were excellent with 5k rotations.
Atomic Robot 09-17-2009, 07:01 AM I had Tripletreds on my Outback for well over a year before I traded it in and there was hardly any wear on them. They were great in all kinds of weather and the ride feel was decent. Very aggressive looking as well. I will seriously consider them as replacements when the original Michelins on my '07 wear out.
houseofcharm 09-18-2009, 08:17 PM How about low rolling resistance tires for my HAH? I'd like good rain shedding and dry grip-snow's a non factor as we head to FL...
honda761 09-23-2009, 05:34 PM I have had my Pilot Sport A/S plus for a week now and damm if these things didnt change my ride for the better in a big way. Expensive but often when I'm driving feels like I got a suspension upgrade.
happyface78 09-27-2009, 12:24 AM I have had a brand new set of Michelin Harmonys since April of this year they replaced the worn out stock Michelins. I absolutely love them, very quiet, they stopped chirpping on wet roads or quick acceleration, and I feel a lot less road imperfections. This will be my first winter with them I'm hope they won't disappoint. its also a 80,000mile warranty tire.
rszappa1 09-27-2009, 03:40 AM The Harmony is more of a sedan smooth ride type tire....
yippiekiyeh 09-29-2009, 05:45 PM Having close to 68K miles on my original set of tires, I will be purchasing the OEM replacements today from tirerack for my 2004 sedan I4 5A.
Decided on the Michelin Energy MXV4 S8 (Grand Touring All-Seasons) in size P205/60R16. :banana:
The speed rating of my original tires is 91V. The question is should I stay at V or downgrade to the H speed rating? Knowing that V has a firmer sidewall, a new set of tires with the original speed rating of V would also have familiar cornering and braking characteristics. :yes:
Knowing that I am a conservative driver who has never exceeded 80 mph on the highway, rarely 75 mph, and frequently stay at 65-70 on the highway, would the higher speed rating also mean additional tread life in this case? The driving conditions I encounter are 60% stop-and-go, 30% short highway trips (2 hours or less), and 10% long trips (3-4 hours). In my 5.5 years of ownership, the car never has more than 1 passenger with the back seat and trunk unused, and has occasionally been driven in rain but never snow.
Since this tire purchase is a "major" decision, I appreciate your insights and advice! :thmsup:
I'd suggest the Michelin Primacy MXV4 over the Michelin Energy MXV4 S8, from the tire rack ratings they rate the Primacy over the S8! Plus the Primacy costs less to purchase than the S8 go figure!
Hope that helps :thmsup:
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