How many speakers did the 2002 EX V6 sedan audio system have? I'm hoping you can help me out here princess. I want to get new speakers for it for christmas, I want to know how much your Infinity's changed the sound in the car. Currently I have a '99 EX 4 cyl but I have a 2002 EX V6 6CD/Cassette head unit in it.

Oh OT: What else do you guys suggest I get for my car for Christmas that's under $200? You guys can make more than one suggestion, don't mind whether performance or looks. I'm not looking for anything big audio things like amps or subwoofers, and probably not an intake. Not much else is there?! :) Maybe some trim items in the interior/exterior? NO RICE!!!

BB650,
02 EX V6 6 speakers..... 2 dash 2 frt doors 2 rear deck.

Good gift ... detailing kit http://www.properautocare.com/stepuptosizs.html.

Hope Santa's good to you!!
I1

My dad owns a carwash so as far as detailing I'm pretty much set. That's been a popular suggestion though, wonder why? Anyway thanks for verifying that the 2002 EX V6 had 6 speakers. Now anybody wanna recommend what to replace my speakers with?

Check out Polk db650 6 1/2 frt Polk db690 6x9 rear
Around 250.00 for all 4 Always had good luck with Polks in automotive or JBL

Infinity also but more money.... depends on what you want to spend??

I1

You shouldn't need dash mounts if you go with 2 ways in doors and 3 ways in rear..... Plus dash mounts are a pain installing...
You can add component if you want to add extra holes in doors??? I'm not real keen on that ...

Thats one thing I'm not too clear on. I went to Crutchfield today just to see my choices and I seen Speakers, Component speakers, and the like. What's the difference? Supposedly there are some component speakers (which are supposed to be better?) that fit directly into the front doors, but not the rear. There are regular speakers that fit right into both front and rear doors. I don't care how much I spend, reasonable though. I don't need any $1000 speakers because 1) the car doesn't even have full coverage insurance 2) I'm not that big of an audio fan buff but the stock Honda system really bites.

I've never upgraded the audio in any of my cars before so this is a new thing for me. One particular concern is how to get to the door speakers. Seems like I have to remove the whole door panel, which would be a major pain in the ass. It would be pretty easy to do myself I hope?

Forgot to mention my objectives in getting new speakers. Primarily I want higher highs and more distinct lows. The stock audio system seems very flat when you lower the bass but the bass if very annoying because it sounds muddy. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that clearer sound = better, if a speaker could help with that, it would be great. Thanks for all your help!

Component speakers are standard size speakers for frt doors and 1-1.5" tweeters to surface mount on door panels or dash--- tacky on Honda I think...
Yes you do have to remove front door panels to install frt speakers.... Rears just mount in rear deck ..
Check out this site also
http://www.sounddomain.com

When you check out look for higher db sensitivity, the higher the better response you'll get with the stock stereo... Thats why I like Polks.. I believe you would be very happy compared to stock cone pioneers.

Another idea for Santa ... Radar detector....if you don't have on already..
http://www.radarbusters.com/

Hope this helps....
I1

LOL radar detector good one. This sixteen year old normally drives 5 under the limit I think I'm okay haha. Do you think I could use the tweeters on the component speakers to replace the tweeters in the dash? I'd probably have to disassemble the whole dash though, yuck.

What would be a good solid db sensitivity?

I thought you would get a kick out of the detector idea.. Ha

db-- 90+

How about a Helms service manual?

http://www.helminc.com/helm/homepage.asp?r=

Component tweeters would surface mount on dash.. I think like you do big pain to install. Tweeters in doors and rear deck would alleviate need for dash tweeters i believe.

I1

Yeah I was thinking about that, it would go great for pulling out the stupid door panels. Honda makes everything so complicated....

There's really no separation on system for front tweeters....
Plus they would be up there for all Thieves to see....
Hate to have window busted out to trash car for tweeters....

I1

Yeah that would suck. Just curious how paranoid are you about your car? Mine always gets parked in the last (or near the last) parking spot, I lock everything in the interior (incl. glovebox, trunk release, trunk pass through), and never leave the windows open when I park.

Yes I know your dilemma about parking and worries about door dings. Thats what I do for a living and I can spot one a mile away.
You can be as careful as possible and still get them, The sheet metal on cars is extremely thin these days and people are in such a big hurry and plain don't care. It's amazing how easy to get dings. I know where everyone is on both my vehicles. My neighbor put 2 >.25" dings in my left 1/4 by just leaning on my car with the seams of his rear pocket on a pair of jeans:censored: .. you know at the top corners of the pocket!! amazing!!! Of course I didn't feel so bad since my son ran into his car with his bike and he wouldn't let me fix.. leased company car.
As far as theft I'm pretty lax, with my job my car is my office, so it's always close, 2 Digital cameras on passenger seat, printer and inverter setup on passenger floor and 1k handheld computer either with me or on pass seat. If I have to park and leave for more than a few minutes I have towels and a jacket that I pile on top so everything is not easy to see. Alot also depends on neighborhood .
The majority of my work is at peoples residence and when I do at their workplace I'll call from parking lot and they will come out to meet me.
But I really don't get to upset because dings and dents are repairable, It's not worth a stress attack.
My car had 25k on odo when I purchased and being a certi car they had dings from previous owner repaired(6 total to be exact)
blew salesman away with that one, with a trained eye and correct lighting conditions you can spot them. But like I said those are not major I'm more concerned with body lines being straight and paint being factory..no wrecks..
There are vehicles that are alot less susceptible to dings than Honda but thats another story on another forum. And those you have to worry about major mechanical issues and resale value!!
I'd rather take chances with dings..

P.S. Honda is definitely not the worst for dings.. Some of the worst cars I have seen are in hospital parking garages, mainly doctors:eek: thats real scary:eek:

I1

Sorry there's been lots going on here....:blush:

We left the dash tweeters alone. They aren't the problem with the sound. We went with 3-way in the front doors & rear. The Infinitys have great highs. I have a tendency to use more bass than the prince. We listen to a WIDE range of music. We did check out the Polk, when we made our purchase. They are good speakers. There wasn't much price difference, so we went with what we know. Then we lucked out & ended up getting the "year end" price. They had to search some out for us. So 2 came from Stockton. All were purchased from Goodguys, I think. The same season we also bought some for our son's car....

We do like decent sound, but not into taking up space for those big boxes.

The '02 door speakers are tons easier to replace than the '03's! But if I remember right he had to trim a bit to fit them in the door. (The new speakers are usually deeper) They really made a big difference & I think you'll be happy, no matter which brand you go for.:yes

About the ding worries..... I wasn't planning on being paranoid when we bought the '02, then she got 3 tiny pox before she got her plates! WHen we got the Pilot, she got a paint chip on her first time in a parking lot! So when we got the '03 she was babysat until she got her plates! People just seem to be mean to cars with dealer tags. She made it with no dings! Then driving along a rock got kicked up & made a tiny flaw on the roof!

A 16 year old that drives under the limit???? :confused: Wow!

The Mercedes M-Class has had problems with chips, they appear on every panel, roof and rear hatch included. That's amazing. I know, it's surprising for a 16 y/o to drive under the limit. Mostly, I drive under the limit in neighborhoods because I figure if I hit someone or something chances are it's going to be someone I know :)

I have noticed that on M class especially on the Maroon and Silver paint... One thing to remember if the vehicle has been repainted at body shop they tend to chip even worse.. easy tell tale on non factory paint.. 320 series is worse than 430 & 500
The higher end Benzs use a different paint process that contains a fiber in primer(more flex) C models chip and ding more than E & S class.

I1

Another Santa item wiper refills !!!

Can I be you when I grow up???:D

Actually I've always behaved in the residential areas. Out & about though, well.... I try....she just has a mind of her own sometimes!

I just bought wipers for it $35 damn I'm an idiot. My mom's 2000 ML320 sucks when it comes to paint. The orange peel is worse than an orange and it's factory paint. The chips are all from factory paint too, which worries me. Mercedes quality = BOOO. Yeah out on the highway I'll drive pretty fast....following flow in the fast lane mostly, depend on my mood. Sometime's I'll follow slow lane traffic, even a 55MPH school bus lol. I guess when it comes down to it, I'm just patient, I don't mind following a 55 MPH school bus for 2 or 3 miles if I need to exit hehe.

Honda wipers $35 are they gold plated ?
Refills $ 6
BB650 do you have a wing/spoiler on your accord?

I1

Nope all stock except for the 02 EX V6 headunit. Refills FREE Honda Customer Appreciation Month (October)...I'm still an idiot for that.

If you want a spoiler watch Hparts.com they had on special for 149.50 when I bought mine in June back up to 350 now maybe they'll drop price again before end of year or when they need to dump some more inventory.
I don't have chip problems with my mask...

I1

Wow $149.50 is not bad, thanks for the tip. Too bad my mom is so strict, won't lemme buy anything :( I thought that when u asked about the spoiler u were gunna say something about me being a typical kid/ricer....haha.

Hey Princess, do you remember any model numbers for the Infinity's in your '02? I'm able to get a killer deal on speakers this week and I think I'm going to make a kill. I just want to make sure that they're the right speakers because I heard that the Infinity's don't work well even with aftermarket headunits. They work at 25RMS. Our speakers are only rated at 3RMS or something like that, which really scares me because the Infinity's are rated for 100RMS.

what's RMS?? I don't know the model #'s, but the front doors have 6 1/4 -3 ways & the rear deck has 9" 3 ways. The Pilot has the "reference series"(2-way) , they may have discontunes the 3 ways.....we couldn't find them when hunting for the Pilot anyway. It may have just been at the end of the model year & the new ones hadn't come in yet. I do still have all the boxes (we put the OEM's in them) up in the attic.....but I'm too short to get the ladder down & my prince is pretty busy. We haven't had any complaints about the sound since removing the MP3 from the Pilot. CD's sound great. When driving alone we both have a tendency to pump up the volume! He also replaced the bass in the Pilot. The OEM was thin & couldn't handle anything!

Happy shopping!:)

When head unit manufacturers advertise wattage, normally they advertise the peak watts. That means basically that it can only be reached for short bursts and not consistently. RMS is basically what the head unit pumps out consistently (in watts). So the speakers are designed to take 100W consistently but my Honda head unit, though rated at 30 watts, only pumps out about 3-5 watts consistently. That's how I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong.

If I replace the front speakers, will I have to mess with the tweeters? I want them to stay as is and work too. Reason I suddenly resurrected this thread is because I'm able to get a killer deal on Infinity and Polk. Infinity 2 way front and 3 way rear would cost me ~$140, Polks same setup (using the part numbers recommended by I1 earlier) would cost ~$175 I think have to check on that.

Princess, were your Infinity speakers Kappa's or Reference series? Are you sure it was 6 1/4 in the front? Stock is 6 1/2. If you could get the model number that would be really great. I'm just trying to be extra sure because this killer deal has no return policy hehe.

The Accord's book says it's rated at 120 watts, so with 6 speakers that would only be 20 per. We left the tweeters in the dash alone. They haven't sounded distorted & are a pain to get to!!

I think the Accord's speakers are of the Kappa series. I know that's what we'd put in the '86. It had a denon head with a 310 watt amp in the trunk. We haven't bothered to boost this one. We figured if we weren't happy, it left something else to do.

Good luck on the speakers. Polk are very nice too. Each brand has good & not so good models, but I know you'll have done your homework!

I thought "normal" was 6 1/4.... I don't know.....I usually get grumbled at because I call the just 6"......;)

My "hookup" can get Infinity's super cheap so that's probably what I'll be doing. Reference series $38.71 front and $57.94 rear brand new non stolen parts!! A steal compared to the $120 and $160 they're asking normal price in Circuit City. I'll go look for Kappa's I guess, because I read some reviews that said the Reference doesn't perform well when unboosted.

We'd also noticed a little difference in the Pilot's sound vs. the Accord. We figured it was just either the 2 way vs. 3 way or/and the different body shape. We KNOW that can make a difference! The best sound we EVER had was the '82 Accord HB, we'd moved the whole set up to a sedan & lost some richness in the sound!:(

hey bb650.
i dont know if this is to late or not but the fronts are 6 1/2. the back is 6 by 9.

For infinities the quality goes reference series, kappa series, and then kappa perfect series. The kappa would be more exspensive then the references.

I heard that an issue on the front door speakers was the depth. Like what princess said earlier. I have the 2000 coupe and i think her 02 was a coupe too. she had to cut out some of the door moldings around the speakers probably. The Kappa series is better then the reference because it has a bigger magnet and that would mean mroe depth. so make sure you check up on that with crutchfield or whatever before you get it. GL

the '02 was a sedan, there may have been some fitting issue inside the door....but not where you can see. The '03 had a trickier, but doable installation. It's OEM's were really thin! Plus they're held in with clips, not screws.:( They broke real easy!

I'm not sure how to go about doing this because I found out that Infinity makes a "shallow" mount Reference speaker specifically for imports like the Accord. It's not the best speaker they make though. I would run Kappa pieces but I'm worried about them fitting. The main thing is being able to keep the stock speaker grilles and not having to drill holes in the doors (for component speakers) because I want to keep it looking stock. If thieves catch any glimpse of my speakers they'll surely rip it out, and my neighborhood is not particularly safe either.

We kept the Honda covers on. It can be done!! (with the Kappas):D

i have installer pioneer premier 4 way 6.5" in the front doors and pioneer premier 6x9 4 ways in the rear deck of all three of our accords (98,99,00) i recommend a premier headunit as well single din with pocket underneath, double din dvd without nav, or double din with nav/dvd. all can be had for under 1000.00 installed. thats speakers, parts, labor etc. it is also a very simple install in the 6th gen accords.
although after 5 years of removing the entire rear deck cover to replace/swap out rear speakers i finally figured out that there are 2 nuts on each side of the rear speaker covers. loosen them and the speaker covers pop off.
if only i would have figured that out a few years ago.....
but front and rear door speakers shouldn't run more than 350-400 installed. if they do... call me...... 89.00 for front speakers plus shipping and 109 for rear sspeakers plus shipping. they retail for 120-150 for the front and 150-200 for the rear for 4 way coaxials.

jeremy