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: RV6 V3 J-Pipe for 08+ Accord V6 will be available soon!


D-Press
07-17-2010, 02:30 PM
http://www.r-v6p.ecrater.com/p/8575473/deposit-rv6-long-tube-j-pipe-08

I was shopping for my next potential upgrade and found out that RV6 have updated their website. They are currently taking $100 deposits and will be available around August 15th! Looks like the first batch will be priced lower than the V3 for TLs...
They're also searching for a 6MT V6 for dyno testing! If only it wasn't that far from me!

SMavrides89
07-18-2010, 06:44 AM
I want this!

Although I have a (V6) Automatic - Sedan.... Will this still work / be beneficial to me?

danieldigs
07-18-2010, 07:36 AM
I saw this a few days ago also. If only I knew how to read a Dyno. Max Horsepower 196 vs. 179? Can it really be that much improvement?

hondamaint
07-18-2010, 07:50 AM
I want this!

Although I have a (V6) Automatic - Sedan.... Will this still work / be beneficial to me?

I talked with Rich about this pipe and the one he is taking deposits for is for the 8th gen V6 sedan.

I work with Honda Manufacturing of Alabama where we build the Odyssey,Ridgeline, Pilot and V6 sedans. We just got a J pipe in the mail on Friday that we will run on an Odyssey we use for SCCA TT / autocross and open track days. After talking to Rich it was here 2 days later and all I can say is WOW.
We normally build all of our own pipes from the head all the way back,no more. This thing is a work of art. We almost hate to put it on and get it dirty. If it works ( and I bet it will ) half as good as it looks this is going to be sweet.
We are on the list to get one for the Accord also when they come out.
We will report back how these work out for us,so far we are very pleased with the customer service and the quality of the product.

Paul Street
Honda Manufacturing of Alabama

SMavrides89
07-18-2010, 08:21 AM
Alright....

Like 80% sure I'm going to buy this.

I want it so bad, and if it works for the sedan V6, then yeah.... I want more power.

But, two other questions;

1.) Will having a (SRI) intake affect it?
- I want to purchase a K&N SRI very shortly...

2.) Will the J-Pipe change the sound at all? Or just the performance?

D-Press
07-18-2010, 03:22 PM
I saw this a few days ago also. If only I knew how to read a Dyno. Max Horsepower 196 vs. 179? Can it really be that much improvement?

Yes it can free up that much hp. It's almost the same gains as for TLs guys...

Alright....

Like 80% sure I'm going to buy this.

I want it so bad, and if it works for the sedan V6, then yeah.... I want more power.

But, two other questions;

1.) Will having a (SRI) intake affect it?
- I want to purchase a K&N SRI very shortly...

2.) Will the J-Pipe change the sound at all? Or just the performance?

Nah...this won't affect the SRI. I think if you have a catback, the j-pipe could change the sound, but not if you have stock exhaust. You will feel the power gain for sure! I will buy one really soon because my j-pipe on my 7th gen miss me so much. Now with a 6mt 8th gen, can't wait to see the difference!

thedc
07-18-2010, 03:38 PM
How much is this looking to be, I would love some power for my v6.

edit: Ok nevermind, i read the site. 420 shipped first batch. 500 when in stock.

What power gains are we looking at?

tommypenguin
07-18-2010, 06:27 PM
For the price, I'm interested for sure and the fact you don't need to buy a catless pipe makes it an even better deal. I would like to see 4th gear pulls of a 6 speed stock vs the pipe. I wonder if I could work out a deal with RV6 that if I got the pipe from them and did a pre dyno run and a post dyno run on the same day would they subtract the cost of dynoing from the price of the pipe... Anyone know if we have an RV6 rep on this site?

D-Press
07-18-2010, 09:45 PM
For the price, I'm interested for sure and the fact you don't need to buy a catless pipe makes it an even better deal. I would like to see 4th gear pulls of a 6 speed stock vs the pipe. I wonder if I could work out a deal with RV6 that if I got the pipe from them and did a pre dyno run and a post dyno run on the same day would they subtract the cost of dynoing from the price of the pipe... Anyone know if we have an RV6 rep on this site?

You should email Richie directly.

all_me_2
07-19-2010, 10:48 AM
would there be any MPG change? if so, how much?

tommypenguin
07-19-2010, 01:31 PM
I sent an email to their site I will see if they get back to me.

danieldigs
07-19-2010, 01:54 PM
I sent an email to their site I will see if they get back to me.

Richie emailed me back same night on Saturday. I wanted to inquire about shipping costs to Canada. Nice quick response. I'd drive from Toronto to Chicago to let him test my 6-6 if it meant a free J-Pipe! haha

D-Press
07-19-2010, 05:40 PM
Richie emailed me back same night on Saturday. I wanted to inquire about shipping costs to Canada. Nice quick response. I'd drive from Toronto to Chicago to let him test my 6-6 if it meant a free J-Pipe! haha

How much it cost to ship to Canada?

LAYFORSHORT
07-19-2010, 11:38 PM
:O yess! Added to the to buy list!

danieldigs
07-20-2010, 06:05 AM
How much it cost to ship to Canada?

He said it would be $45 shipping to Canada.

But I'd be more worried about the customs charges. Probably end up costing close to $500 US.

vtxcraziexboi
07-20-2010, 06:42 AM
http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784087

check out the new dual exhaust system for us TL owners :D
theres videos!!!

tommypenguin
07-20-2010, 06:49 AM
I saw that last night the true dual exhaust is sick, any idea if it will bolt up to our cars? I got the approval from my girlfriend yesterday and I'm 95% sure I'm going to get this pipe. Most of what I have read said the J pipe is 2nd best bolt on you can do in terms of power next to pre cat deletes.

D-Press
07-20-2010, 08:28 AM
He said it would be $45 shipping to Canada.

But I'd be more worried about the customs charges. Probably end up costing close to $500 US.

If he could ship it by USPS, we could save on customs. UPS is so expensive...

danieldigs
07-20-2010, 09:20 AM
If he could ship it by USPS, we could save on customs. UPS is so expensive...

He said they do use USPS so that's a very good thing since UPS murders you with brokerage fees and such.

vtxcraziexboi
07-20-2010, 03:40 PM
i asked richie on the forum n he said hes currently lookin for a coupe around the chicagoland area to test on.

Hittman
07-20-2010, 04:13 PM
I just put my deposit down on the RV6 V3 J-Pipe. Happy Birthday to me! I love the birthday gifts I buy for myself ;)

tommypenguin
07-20-2010, 05:32 PM
I just put my deposit down on the RV6 V3 J-Pipe. Happy Birthday to me! I love the birthday gifts I buy for myself ;)

You always get what you want when you get one for yourself. :thmsup: Happy birthday, you planning on getting pre cat deletes also when they go for sale? I wrote Richie at Acurazine to make sure there wasn't going to be a package deal on pre cat deletes and j pipe any time soon before putting my money down. I should be hearing from him anytime.

hondaracer4vtec
07-20-2010, 06:06 PM
I put in a deposit on this as well. hopefully by labor day weekend they will be shipped and put on my car.

Tommy let us know on what he says on the pre cat deletes....he usually will take care of repeat customers... like he is doing on the true dual exhaust on the tl.... 100 bucks less if you have previously ordered the J-pipe... maybe like 50 off for the pre cats.

tommypenguin
07-20-2010, 07:34 PM
I put in a deposit on this as well. hopefully by labor day weekend they will be shipped and put on my car.

Tommy let us know on what he says on the pre cat deletes....he usually will take care of repeat customers... like he is doing on the true dual exhaust on the tl.... 100 bucks less if you have previously ordered the J-pipe... maybe like 50 off for the pre cats.

I heard from Richie, here is what he said in regards to my inquiry on a package deal for pre cat deletes... 'We have a precat delete design but I am not sure if we are going to put them into production. The tooling is very expensive and it doesnt look like there will be enough support. No worries if I do come out with them I will pass the discounts along on your future purchases.'

I sent him a pm to say that I am interested in the pre cat deletes regardless and that if he decides to not put them into production perhaps if I could round up 5 members who are interested maybe he could make a custom batch. I will let you know what he says and maybe we can organize a small custom group buy from him for those of us who are interested if there is not enough interest to make the pre cat delete a production item for the 8th gen Accords.

By the way I put in my deposit tonight for the J pipe.

tnel2005
07-21-2010, 11:41 AM
will this work for the v6 auto coupe? and if so, will the gains be noticeable?

tommypenguin
07-21-2010, 12:05 PM
will this work for the v6 auto coupe? and if so, will the gains be noticeable?

This pipe will work for the auto. From what the owners on the Acura TL forums are saying the gains are noticeable. Should equate 10-15whp and 5-10wtq. With pre cat deletes we should be able to extract an additional 10-15whp and 10-15wtq on top of the j pipe gains

D-Press
07-21-2010, 04:52 PM
This pipe will work for the auto. From what the owners on the Acura TL forums are saying the gains are noticeable. Should equate 10-15whp and 5-10wtq. With pre cat deletes we should be able to extract an additional 10-15whp and 10-15wtq on top of the j pipe gains

Wow that much gain with pre-cats! 300HP isn't that far after those mods!

tnel2005
07-22-2010, 11:44 AM
thanks for the info!

hondaracer4vtec
07-22-2010, 05:55 PM
I heard from Richie, here is what he said in regards to my inquiry on a package deal for pre cat deletes... 'We have a precat delete design but I am not sure if we are going to put them into production. The tooling is very expensive and it doesnt look like there will be enough support. No worries if I do come out with them I will pass the discounts along on your future purchases.'

I sent him a pm to say that I am interested in the pre cat deletes regardless and that if he decides to not put them into production perhaps if I could round up 5 members who are interested maybe he could make a custom batch. I will let you know what he says and maybe we can organize a small custom group buy from him for those of us who are interested if there is not enough interest to make the pre cat delete a production item for the 8th gen Accords.

By the way I put in my deposit tonight for the J pipe.

great! put me down for those as well when and if he gets back to you. :thmsup:

hondaracer4vtec
07-22-2010, 05:57 PM
Wow that much gain with pre-cats! 300HP isn't that far after those mods!

Only if we can have someone crack the ecu... :naughty:

D-Press
07-22-2010, 06:37 PM
Only if we can have someone crack the ecu... :naughty:

Well...I think we're able to reach that 300whp without cracking the ECU, just a couple of bolt on...

Base dyno for AV6 6MT: ~240whp

CAI: ~+5
pre-cats: ~+10 (base on RV6 3.0L dyno)
V3 j-pipe/no cat: ~+15
True dual exhaust: ~+15 (base on the RV6 TL 3.2L dyno)
underdrive pulley: ~+5

Total: ~+50whp -> ~290whp already!

What else can we bolt on?

akademiks165
07-22-2010, 07:05 PM
will the true dual exhaust bolt up on our AV6? (hangers, etc in different locations) or they the same?

tommypenguin
07-22-2010, 09:00 PM
Richie said he didn't believe the true dual would be a direct bolt on for 8th gen Accords but is looking for an Accord to test with. I think with all bolt on mods at sea level and in cold weather an Accord 6-6 could get to 275-285whp untuned.

I pray Accessport will eventually crack several tables in our ecu and the ability to flash new maps. If we could change just a few tables, injector scalar, closed and open loop afr, base timing, timing advance, and maf scaling while being able to monitor fine learning knock, cylinder roughness, knock sum and fuel trims which you can do with an Accessport on a suby we would have the keys to 300whp+ and a tune on e85 with big injectors and a fuel pump netting really big gains. I need to slap myself accross the face, this is my daily driver not my weekend warrior.

akademiks165
07-22-2010, 11:52 PM
accessport is already in the works? if so thats good news but cracking the ecu is no easy task... i was a past owner of a 3rd gen tl and it was a pain trying to crack the ecu. i dont think any company had successfully did it. (including comptech's supercharger acm was having some problems). all we can do is pray for some aftermarket support for the 8th gen.

L's TLS
07-23-2010, 09:49 AM
Lol

D-Press
08-01-2010, 05:27 PM
I don't think there's any good company out there who's ready to R&D in our ECU...

coupe_nasty
09-22-2010, 05:28 PM
has anyone heard if these things are availible yet?? Very anxious to get my hands on one.

gentledental4u
09-23-2010, 07:26 AM
I heard from Richie, here is what he said in regards to my inquiry on a package deal for pre cat deletes... 'We have a precat delete design but I am not sure if we are going to put them into production. The tooling is very expensive and it doesnt look like there will be enough support. No worries if I do come out with them I will pass the discounts along on your future purchases.'

I sent him a pm to say that I am interested in the pre cat deletes regardless and that if he decides to not put them into production perhaps if I could round up 5 members who are interested maybe he could make a custom batch. I will let you know what he says and maybe we can organize a small custom group buy from him for those of us who are interested if there is not enough interest to make the pre cat delete a production item for the 8th gen Accords.

By the way I put in my deposit tonight for the J pipe.

I'm interested.

gentledental4u
09-23-2010, 05:39 PM
I heard from Richie, here is what he said in regards to my inquiry on a package deal for pre cat deletes... 'We have a precat delete design but I am not sure if we are going to put them into production. The tooling is very expensive and it doesnt look like there will be enough support. No worries if I do come out with them I will pass the discounts along on your future purchases.'

I sent him a pm to say that I am interested in the pre cat deletes regardless and that if he decides to not put them into production perhaps if I could round up 5 members who are interested maybe he could make a custom batch. I will let you know what he says and maybe we can organize a small custom group buy from him for those of us who are interested if there is not enough interest to make the pre cat delete a production item for the 8th gen Accords.

By the way I put in my deposit tonight for the J pipe.

Just put in my deposit WOOHOO!!!!

gentledental4u
09-23-2010, 07:16 PM
Richie said he didn't believe the true dual would be a direct bolt on for 8th gen Accords but is looking for an Accord to test with. I think with all bolt on mods at sea level and in cold weather an Accord 6-6 could get to 275-285whp untuned.

I pray Accessport will eventually crack several tables in our ecu and the ability to flash new maps. If we could change just a few tables, injector scalar, closed and open loop afr, base timing, timing advance, and maf scaling while being able to monitor fine learning knock, cylinder roughness, knock sum and fuel trims which you can do with an Accessport on a suby we would have the keys to 300whp+ and a tune on e85 with big injectors and a fuel pump netting really big gains. I need to slap myself accross the face, this is my daily driver not my weekend warrior.
oooo i was so close to getting a magnaflow exhaust..... should i wait for Richie to make the exhaust for our cars?????

tommypenguin
09-23-2010, 10:02 PM
Just put in my deposit WOOHOO!!!!

Congrats, I actually had to cancel my order on the J-pipe a couple weeks ago, took a stick to the mouth in hockey and had to pay a little over a g to get some dental repair done. Really retarded how it happened but that is another story.

I will have to wait till the beginning of next year to order the J pipe in light of my unexpected dental work and an expected purchase of an engagement ring. I'm still interested in pre cat deletes but at the time I inquired to Richie, L's and myself were the only ones really interested in them. I figure with a little time there will be enough demand to warrant him or another company to make them for us.

tommypenguin
09-23-2010, 10:04 PM
oooo i was so close to getting a magnaflow exhaust..... should i wait for Richie to make the exhaust for our cars?????

I wouldn't hold your breath on the dual exhaust and if it does come out I forsee it being close to a g like the TL true dual, for the money I don't think you can go wrong with the magnaflow. I got mine for 450shipped and chopped the resonator out and had a straight pipe welded in its place for 50$ at a local exhaust shop. Sounds great, haven't ever gotten tired of my exhaust but since I have a 6-6 I can control gear and drone is never an issue. Obviously if you're dying for the true dual I would write Richie and ask him if he has plans to release the exhaust for our Accords, last time I checked he said didn't yet IIRC.

krazyfiend
09-24-2010, 05:49 AM
I'm in. Deposit put down.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune TP! Hockey and teeth don't mix it up too well as most of my Pittsburgh friends can attest to.

gentledental4u
09-25-2010, 03:13 PM
Sorry to hear about your teeth...let me know if you ever need any free dental advice!

rudypoo
09-25-2010, 06:22 PM
i think i just came a little bit when i saw this..
just placed my deposit.. when can we expect these to ship out?

tommypenguin
09-25-2010, 06:58 PM
Sorry to hear about your teeth...let me know if you ever need any free dental advice!

Ya it ****s, what's done is done now. Unfortunately I don't even have a cool story to go along with it, but the repair work has been done. Thanks for the offer, lol knock on wood, if I ever have another issue again I'll be sure to drop you a line. Enjoy the j pipe.

rudypoo
09-26-2010, 06:08 AM
According to Richard Wong, the j-pipe shud be processed and ready to ship by the end of next week. (hopefully by Oct 1)

I cant believe this guy was answering my emails at 1:30 am EST.

krazyfiend
09-26-2010, 06:24 AM
According to Richard Wong, the j-pipe shud be processed and ready to ship by the end of next week. (hopefully by Oct 1)

I cant believe this guy was answering my emails at 1:30 am EST.

that's Chicago folks for ya :)

hondaracer4vtec
09-26-2010, 09:04 AM
According to Richard Wong, the j-pipe shud be processed and ready to ship by the end of next week. (hopefully by Oct 1)

I cant believe this guy was answering my emails at 1:30 am EST.

Nice cant wait for it to come thru! need to send Rich an email as well. Maybe ill try 2am tomorrow morning :thmsup:

krazyfiend
10-02-2010, 04:03 AM
Pay your remaining balance here.
http://www.r-v6p.ecrater.com/p/9320672/remaining-payment-rv6-long-tube-j

Purchase here.
http://www.r-v6p.ecrater.com/p/8575473/rv6-long-tube-j-pipe-08-accord

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Richiev6/IMG_7449.jpg

D-Press
10-02-2010, 05:54 AM
WOOOT! :thmsup:

coupe_nasty
10-02-2010, 12:47 PM
do these sit any lower to the ground than the factory one?

krazyfiend
10-02-2010, 01:29 PM
do these sit any lower to the ground than the factory one?

Not from what's been reported or visually seen in the first few fitment photographs I've seen posted (sedan v6 though) ...

Richie's work looks top notch and gets the nod of the acurazine folks..I'm lead to believe it's a point of his to maintain clearance..

I'll take some pics whenever I receive it in the next week out of the car and installed.

thisaznboi88
10-02-2010, 01:59 PM
do these sit any lower to the ground than the factory one?

no they actually tuck really well into the car. almost like stock. Really great if your slam so you dont have to worry about eating it.

coupe_nasty
10-02-2010, 03:34 PM
and the 2.5" outlet bolts up to factory exhaust?

gentledental4u
10-02-2010, 06:37 PM
Rich is a real great honest business man..we need more people like him in this world!

tommypenguin
10-02-2010, 06:48 PM
I have a ton of respect to Richie for refunding my deposit after the tooth issue. I still plan on getting the j pipe and PCD's when they are available can't wait to see dyno's of the parts in use. Here's a pic Richie posted of the PCD prototypes...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Richiev6/6cfd5095-1.jpg

hondaracer4vtec
10-03-2010, 05:57 AM
Just paid the balance left.. cant wait :)

coupe_nasty
10-03-2010, 05:00 PM
just ordered mine! Cant wait to hear this with the HKS Exhaust! :D

L's TLS
10-04-2010, 08:29 AM
I have a ton of respect to Richie for refunding my deposit after the tooth issue. I still plan on getting the j pipe and PCD's when they are available can't wait to see dyno's of the parts in use. Here's a pic Richie posted of the PCD prototypes...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Richiev6/6cfd5095-1.jpg

I cant wait to see what power these make on the car. I will be getting dynoes done here soon.

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 04:00 AM
well fed ex tracking shows my j-pipe being delivered tommorow! :banana:

D-Press
10-05-2010, 04:31 AM
Nice! It would be really appreciated if you could take some pics during your installation!

well fed ex tracking shows my j-pipe being delivered tommorow! :banana:

nuzey
10-05-2010, 04:39 AM
Nice! It would be really appreciated if you could take some pics during your installation!

And a video to do justice :naughty: I need to hear this because I am looking to try something new :D

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 04:45 AM
i will try and get some pics and maybe video afterwards. Hey D-press, did u feel any gains with the throttle body spacer or intake?

krazyfiend
10-05-2010, 04:48 AM
Oct 5, 2010 8:04 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery INDIANAPOLIS, IN

Glad I printed/taped up on the door the tracking sheet and signed it for drop ship authorization this morning :)

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 04:52 AM
Oct 5, 2010 8:04 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery INDIANAPOLIS, IN

Glad I printed/taped up on the door the tracking sheet and signed it for drop ship authorization this morning :)

Where do you sign? i went to my tracking page but i see no spot for drop ship signature?

krazyfiend
10-05-2010, 05:10 AM
Where do you sign? i went to my tracking page but i see no spot for drop ship signature?

Fed Ex Door Tag..my bad, called it the wrong name ... If you hover over the question mark next to 'Signature Required' on your tracking page...you'll see it mentioned.

I believe this is the tag the leave at your door upon first try, but if you know the shipment is coming for the first time, you can simply print the tracking page out. Write the Date, Print your name and Sign it (I do up top and on the bottom, just somewhere with white space) and state something about 'Authorization to leave @ door.' ...

...tape it up to your front door; this has worked for me just fine for my last 3 fedex signature req pkg's. (I loathe driving to my fed-ex office to pick up pkgs...inconvenient drive).

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 05:19 AM
Okay thanks! super excited! Sounds like your getting yours today!




Fed Ex Door Tag..my bad, called it the wrong name ... If you hover over the question mark next to 'Signature Required' on your tracking page...you'll see it mentioned.

I believe this is the tag the leave at your door upon first try, but if you know the shipment is coming for the first time, you can simply print the tracking page out. Write the Date, Print your name and Sign it (I do up top and on the bottom, just somewhere with white space) and state something about 'Authorization to leave @ door.' ...

...tape it up to your front door; this has worked for me just fine for my last 3 fedex signature req pkg's. (I loathe driving to my fed-ex office to pick up pkgs...inconvenient drive).

hondaracer4vtec
10-05-2010, 05:58 AM
Same here!!! but mine is coming on Oct 6!

Location Details
Oct 5, 2010 12:48 AM
In transit
CHICAGO, IL

Oct 5, 2010 12:02 AM
Left FedEx origin facility
CAROL STREAM, IL

Oct 4, 2010 7:21 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
CAROL STREAM, IL

Oct 4, 2010 6:57 PM
In FedEx possession
BLOOMINGDALE, IL
Tendered at FedEx location

Oct 4, 2010 6:15 PM
Picked up
CAROL STREAM, IL
Oct 4, 2010 12:53 AM
Shipment information sent to FedEx

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 06:00 AM
Ours will probably arrive around the same time! Hoping to get mine installed same night


Same here!!! but mine is coming on Oct 6!

Location Details
Oct 5, 2010 12:48 AM
In transit
CHICAGO, IL

Oct 5, 2010 12:02 AM
Left FedEx origin facility
CAROL STREAM, IL

Oct 4, 2010 7:21 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
CAROL STREAM, IL

Oct 4, 2010 6:57 PM
In FedEx possession
BLOOMINGDALE, IL
Tendered at FedEx location

Oct 4, 2010 6:15 PM
Picked up
CAROL STREAM, IL
Oct 4, 2010 12:53 AM
Shipment information sent to FedEx

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 06:02 AM
does anyone know if these come with new bolts and gaskets? I didnt even think to ask

krazyfiend
10-05-2010, 06:16 AM
does anyone know if these come with new bolts and gaskets? I didnt even think to ask

http://r-v6p.ecrater.com/p/5228116/gasket-set

Due to the demand I have decided to offer a gasket kit on my site. This kit includes all gaskets and hardware for the J-Pipe and 3rd cat. This kit is perfect for those who buy used J-Pipes or a J-Pipe that does not come with gaskets.


From the way that is worded, I assume a 'kit' is included with our purchase-- but, I could be wrong. I've read some of Richie's other related threads over on Acurazine and shipments of other exhaust pieces have been held up because of him waiting on gaskets from Honda because he included them in the purchase...

..but you know what they say about assuming, lol

I'm going to Honda to pick up bolts & nuts for a UR RSB install, probably pick up some extra's to simply have on hand 10x1.25mm self-locking nuts and 8x1.25mm bolts.


Could always give Richie a call or drop him an email (although he seems to respond in the wee hours of the night) -- I'd call, but I have to be on a conference call for next 1.5 hrs, sigh.
1-630-346-7998
av6jpipegb@gmail.com

hondaracer4vtec
10-05-2010, 07:36 AM
called---- no answer

hondaracer4vtec
10-05-2010, 07:37 AM
oh same here... I'm ready to install once he delivers. all tools are ready... Can of PB blaster is ready.

Now i don't know about the gasket set. Maybe KrazyFiend can let us know since he is lucky enough to pick his up today

tommypenguin
10-05-2010, 08:30 AM
Nice! It would be really appreciated if you could take some pics during your installation!

The gasket kit should be included.

As for install this should be one of the easiest DIY there is. I believe all you need is a 14mm socket, preferably a deep socket for more torque but a 14mm socket and ratchet, can of PB blaster and possibly one 6 inch extension for the ratchet and antiseeze you’re good to go. There is a total of 9 nuts to remove. Jack the car up in the front and support it. I would start by spraying the cat to catback nuts, and j pipe to pre cat nuts on first with PB blaster. Let them soak 5 minutes, then go ahead and disconnect the cat to catback nuts. (3 nuts connect them). Leave the j pipe on its hanger. Then using your extension and 14mm socket disconnect the j pipe to pre cat nuts, 3 on each side. After doing so, gently remove j pipe from hanger and set the stock j pipe down, it will be heavy especially with the cat still connected to the j pipe.

I would then use a dab of oil if you have any on the new gaskets and rub the oil on the side of the gasket going between the precats and j pipe flanges to help them stay in place and not fall down while you position the j pipe. Put a dab of antiseeze on the studs to the pre cats the nuts will go on. Then I would put the j pipe in position, slide the hanger from the j pipe into the rubber grommet. Then by hand screw the 3 nuts on each j pipe to precat delete flange by hand as tight as you can get it. After doing so Tighten each nut down to the j pipe to precat delete flange in stages. I would tighten the precat to j pipe nuts down 50%, then 75% and then all the way to help minimize the chances of a leak. After tightening those nuts to spec, probably be 45lbs of torque if I were a betting man, but that is strictly a guess could be a little more or less, then move onto the cat to catback nuts. Tighten those 3 nuts down to spec and you should be done. I remember looking at what would be involved for doing this install when I installed my catback a year ago, looked like a piece of cake. Shouldn’t take even a newb more than an hour from the time the car is in the air till the point you set her down. Hope that helps.

krazyfiend
10-05-2010, 09:37 AM
oh same here... I'm ready to install once he delivers. all tools are ready... Can of PB blaster is ready.

Now i don't know about the gasket set. Maybe KrazyFiend can let us know since he is lucky enough to pick his up today

I will let you know -- the pkg is sitting on my doorstep :)

The gasket kit should be included.

As for install this should be one of the easiest DIY there is. I believe all you need is a 14mm socket, preferably a deep socket for more torque but a 14mm socket and ratchet, can of PB blaster and possibly one 6 inch extension for the ratchet and you’re good to go. There is a total of 9 nuts to remove. Jack the car up in the front and support it. I would start by spraying the cat to catback nuts, and j pipe to pre cat nuts on first with PB blaster. Let them soak 5 minutes, then go ahead and disconnect the cat to catback nuts. (3 nuts connect them). Leave the j pipe on its hanger. Then using your extension and 14mm socket disconnect the j pipe to pre cat nuts, 3 on each side. After doing so, gently remove j pipe from hanger and set the stock j pipe down, it will be heavy especially with the cat still connected to the j pipe.

I would then use a dab of oil if you have any on the new gaskets and rub the oil on the side of the gasket going between the precats and j pipe flanges to help them stay in place and not fall down while you position the j pipe. Then I would put the j pipe in position, slide the hanger from the j pipe into the rubber grommet. Then by hand screw the 3 nuts on each j pipe to precat delete flange by hand as tight as you can get it. After doing so Tighten each nut down to the j pipe to precat delete flange in stages. I would tighten the precat to j pipe nuts down 50%, then 75% and then all the way to help minimize the chances of a leak. After tightening those nuts to spec, probably be 45lbs of torque if I were a betting man, but that is strictly a guess could be a little more or less, then move onto the cat to catback nuts. Tighten those 3 nuts down to spec and you should be done. I remember looking at what would be involved for doing this install when I installed my catback a year ago, looked like a piece of cake. Shouldn’t take even a newb more than an hour from the time the car is in the air till the point you set her down. Hope that helps.


Thank you TP !! Huge help/reassurance ... I think it's a 10mm socket though.

I've linked to the service manual page with Torque spec's of the exhaust system.

http://i.imgur.com/2MqHf.jpg

My Honda parts counter just had to order up some self-locking nuts (they had some for service, but not in parts...sigh) for me because I'm going by the book and replacing the nuts instead of re-using. Also grabbing some bolts and nuts for the sway bar install in my future.

Could just grab some from home depot or lowe's ...but, my Honda counter is 3 blocks away from work and the temperature will be better tomorrow for getting the car up on stands.

tommypenguin
10-05-2010, 09:47 AM
I wrote down the nuts were 14mm in my catback diy but I could be wrong according to the diagram let me know when you do the install.

Edit: I believe the 10 in the specs you have refers to the hole size of the nut, you should need a 14mm to remove the nuts I'm 90% sure.10mm would be tiny for exhaust nuts.

coupe_nasty
10-05-2010, 01:19 PM
any word on the gaskets yet?

krazyfiend
10-05-2010, 01:24 PM
Long J-Pipe from Richie came!
http://imgur.com/n5e5Z.jpg

Gasket Set Included:
http://imgur.com/icylB.jpg

Unfortunately all the bolts and nuts were loose inside the brown box packaging (5 nuts counted in pic above), gaskets, business cards and sticker didn't make it out of the plastic bag though--there was a hole in the bottom of the clear plastic bag.
http://imgur.com/Jz2A3.jpg

Stupid Fed-Ex -- There was a clear as day hole on the corner (prior to opening) and I imagine the one nut that is missing from the gasket/bolt/nut set sent along, found it's way out of this hole--trust me, I looked through all the packing materials, inside the J-pipe, around where the package was placed on my porch and the walk up to my house...no dice... re-use a nut or wait til I get some tomorrow from Honda is my dilemma.
http://imgur.com/StXsy.jpg

Excited to install, Richie's work looks top notch!

tommypenguin
10-05-2010, 01:40 PM
Looking good, let us know how the fitment is. Don't forget to post sound clips after the install. I wish I had the coin for this today. Oh well once pcd's are available I should have enough coin for both.

SD70MAC
10-05-2010, 04:01 PM
Looks good, mine won't be here till Thursday according to FedEx which it just happens to look like I might have the day off. My car is already on jack stands in the garage from getting the HFP suspension and new brakes installed :banana:

gentledental4u
10-05-2010, 04:57 PM
The gasket kit should be included.

As for install this should be one of the easiest DIY there is. I believe all you need is a 14mm socket, preferably a deep socket for more torque but a 14mm socket and ratchet, can of PB blaster and possibly one 6 inch extension for the ratchet and you’re good to go. There is a total of 9 nuts to remove. Jack the car up in the front and support it. I would start by spraying the cat to catback nuts, and j pipe to pre cat nuts on first with PB blaster. Let them soak 5 minutes, then go ahead and disconnect the cat to catback nuts. (3 nuts connect them). Leave the j pipe on its hanger. Then using your extension and 14mm socket disconnect the j pipe to pre cat nuts, 3 on each side. After doing so, gently remove j pipe from hanger and set the stock j pipe down, it will be heavy especially with the cat still connected to the j pipe.

I would then use a dab of oil if you have any on the new gaskets and rub the oil on the side of the gasket going between the precats and j pipe flanges to help them stay in place and not fall down while you position the j pipe. Then I would put the j pipe in position, slide the hanger from the j pipe into the rubber grommet. Then by hand screw the 3 nuts on each j pipe to precat delete flange by hand as tight as you can get it. After doing so Tighten each nut down to the j pipe to precat delete flange in stages. I would tighten the precat to j pipe nuts down 50%, then 75% and then all the way to help minimize the chances of a leak. After tightening those nuts to spec, probably be 45lbs of torque if I were a betting man, but that is strictly a guess could be a little more or less, then move onto the cat to catback nuts. Tighten those 3 nuts down to spec and you should be done. I remember looking at what would be involved for doing this install when I installed my catback a year ago, looked like a piece of cake. Shouldn’t take even a newb more than an hour from the time the car is in the air till the point you set her down. Hope that helps.

it will take me 4 hours then :)

tommypenguin
10-05-2010, 06:19 PM
it will take me 4 hours then :)

:) I bet you would be much faster this time, this IMO would be easier than doing a catback install since you don't have to mess with several rubber grommets and clamps and adjusting the grommets for better lined up exhaust.

It is straight up removing 9 rusty nuts, which is no problem with pb blaster and there is nothing obstructive in the way of reaching the nuts. Then you disconnect one hanger and reinstall, no way it could take 4 hours unless you had way to much to drink. God I wish I could afford this right now, it kills me too not mod my car for such a long period of time...

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af94/tommypenguin/Mount%20Evans/Jpipe.jpg

D-Press
10-05-2010, 06:27 PM
I switched from Injen CAI to Takeda SRI / P2R TB spacer. I noticed a lost of power from the SRI/TB spacer combo. But the Takeda SRI sounds way more agressive. So if you're looking for "maximum" power gain, then you should go for the Injen or if you want a nice growl, the Takeda is the way to go.

The best of both world would be the Injen CAI with P2R TB spacer, but you will have to modify the CAI to fit both correctly.

i will try and get some pics and maybe video afterwards. Hey D-press, did u feel any gains with the throttle body spacer or intake?

romeyo9186
10-05-2010, 06:44 PM
what is this j pipe supposed to replace or do and will it make me fail inspection? i have no knowledge about cars and i just wanna make mine go faster!

gentledental4u
10-05-2010, 09:43 PM
Hey you guys...I'm noticing a slightly better mpg after installing my magnaflow...does this sound right?? if this is true, then with the J pipe, there should be a little better mpg too, no??? or maybe i'm just imagining things..

L's TLS
10-06-2010, 04:44 AM
Any time you make a car run more efficiently you will gain mpg. So that sounds right. Most people dont gain mpg because the excitement of having new mods make them press the gas harder, thus resulting in loss of mpg.

But if you install exhaust mods and drive conservatively you will notice the slight increase. 1-2 mpg

etout00
10-06-2010, 05:49 AM
Before someone starts flaming me....how much power gain do you think the J-Pipe would give if I stuck with the OEM exhaust? I had Richie's J-pipe on my 05 Accord v6/6MT but also had a Magnaflow Catback so I can't compare it that way.

Were the hp numbers Richie posted based on the stock exhaust/J-Pipe? I didn't see anything stating otherwise...

L's TLS
10-06-2010, 05:54 AM
Before someone starts flaming me....how much power gain do you think the J-Pipe would give if I stuck with the OEM exhaust? I had Richie's J-pipe on my 05 Accord v6/6MT but also had a Magnaflow Catback so I can't compare it that way.

Were the hp numbers Richie posted based on the stock exhaust/J-Pipe? I didn't see anything stating otherwise...

No flaming needed, reasonable question. I would think 10-20whp maybe more. I gained that amount with the ATLP jpipe on stock exhaust. & I believe the dyno Rich did on that sedan was with stock exhaust.

I'm going to dyno test this for Rich along with Precat deletes. So we will have definite answers within the next week or two.

hondaracer4vtec
10-06-2010, 06:02 AM
I have the stock exhaust on mine. Ill will tell you the difference as soon as i get mine in today

I havent got the CBE yet cause i'm waiting for the pre cats then ill do both at the same time with the rear progressive 22mm sway bar.

krazyfiend
10-06-2010, 06:16 AM
I'm going to dyno test this for Rich along with Precat deletes..

So you're the beta tester! :) (maybe I missed you mentioning that beforehand) l

Looking fwd to your report/dyno L's... the PCD's seem like they'll free up a huge choke point on our rides

hondaracer4vtec
10-06-2010, 06:39 AM
So you're the beta tester! :) (maybe I missed you mentioning that beforehand) l

Looking fwd to your report/dyno L's... the PCD's seem like they'll free up a huge choke point on our rides

KrazyFiend....do you have the 6mt?

L's TLS
10-06-2010, 06:54 AM
So you're the beta tester! :) (maybe I missed you mentioning that beforehand) l

Looking fwd to your report/dyno L's... the PCD's seem like they'll free up a huge choke point on our rides

Yessir. I'm looking fwd to it too LOL. These PCDs are so restrictive. I dont even think we have ones that flow as good as the TL's so we may gain more than them from this.

tommypenguin
10-06-2010, 07:18 AM
I'm way excited to see them mounted on your car. When are you expecting to have them on?

L's TLS
10-06-2010, 07:32 AM
I'm way excited to see them mounted on your car. When are you expecting to have them on?

I sent the deposit yesterday, so I would assume I'm going to get them Friday or Tuesday (depending on if the parcel service delivers on Columbus Day). Once I receive them I plan on doing another baseline dyno, even though I got 240whp and 221wtq but those were under different conditions. I want to have close to the same conditions as possible when dynoing these new parts. After baseline, I will install the jpipe. give the ecu time to adjust to the improved flow. Do a dyno with the jpipe. Then I will add the PCDs, give ecu time to readjust and dyno again. I hope to have all of thise done within a week to two weeks time barring any setbacks.

I will definitely keep everyone posted with pictures and video. I'm partially excited to install the PCDs and partially not. I expect that install to be a PITA but I'll hope for the best and expect the worst. I'm on the fence as to use 93 octane or 87. I used 93 on all of my other dynos, but I realize not everyone uses 93 or has it available to them.

gentledental4u
10-06-2010, 09:26 AM
I tried googling this but couldn't find the answer..Where is the pre-cat located? Is it directly in front of the J pipe?

Please help fill in gap:

Intake > Engine > Headers > J pipe > Pipe with Resonator > Y pipe > Mufflers

Also, what do you mean give ecu time? Is it so that we could somehow reprogram the ecu on our own? I thought all you had to do was disconnect the battery and let ecu reset? (wait, I just reread it...like you want to give ecu a week or two to adjust? is that it?)

Thanks. :notworthy:notworthy

L's TLS
10-06-2010, 09:52 AM
I tried googling this but couldn't find the answer..Where is the pre-cat located? Is it directly in front of the J pipe?

Please help fill in gap:

Intake > Engine > Headers > J pipe > Pipe with Resonator > Y pipe > Mufflers

Also, what do you mean give ecu time? Is it so that we could somehow reprogram the ecu on our own? I thought all you had to do was disconnect the battery and let ecu reset? (wait, I just reread it...like you want to give ecu a week or two to adjust? is that it?)

Thanks. :notworthy:notworthy
This car does not have headers. So the pre cat deletes bolt to the engine, the jpipe bolts to the pre cats, 3rd cat bolts to jpipe, catback bolts to 3rd cat.

Tommy gave a great description below on how the ecu "learns"
http://www.bkhondaparts.com/billkay/jsp/catimgs/14te0801_b0201.png

http://www.bkhondaparts.com/billkay/jsp/catimgs/14te0801_e0401.png

tommypenguin
10-06-2010, 10:12 AM
I sent the deposit yesterday, so I would assume I'm going to get them Friday or Tuesday (depending on if the parcel service delivers on Columbus Day). Once I receive them I plan on doing another baseline dyno, even though I got 240whp and 221wtq but those were under different conditions. I want to have close to the same conditions as possible when dynoing these new parts. After baseline, I will install the jpipe. give the ecu time to adjust to the improved flow. Do a dyno with the jpipe. Then I will add the PCDs, give ecu time to readjust and dyno again. I hope to have all of thise done within a week to two weeks time barring any setbacks.

I will definitely keep everyone posted with pictures and video. I'm partially excited to install the PCDs and partially not. I expect that install to be a PITA but I'll hope for the best and expect the worst. I'm on the fence as to use 93 octane or 87. I used 93 on all of my other dynos, but I realize not everyone uses 93 or has it available to them.

Good idea about doing the baseline a lot can change from day to day as far as temps and atmospheric pressure you really need to do the pulls all on the same day and as quickly between pulls as possible to minimize potential changes. Hopefully you know someone at a local dyno, doing 4 separate pulls wouldn’t be cheap to do here, I was quoted 75$ a pop for each time I put my car on the dyno for 3 consecutive pulls.

The PCD’s shouldn’t be too bad to install, just time consuming as long as the PCD’s fitment is spot on for the egr flange. I can grab you the link to the DIY from the TL forums if you haven’t found it already. Looked straight forward, just need to remove a radiator fan to get enough room and put some cardboard on the back side of the radiator to avoid puncturing a hole in it with a tool which apparently several people have done. I know I would appreciate you doing the pulls on 87 but I wouldn’t blame you for dynoing on 93, up here in CO the best gas we have available is 91.

I tried googling this but couldn't find the answer..Where is the pre-cat located? Is it directly in front of the J pipe?

Please help fill in gap:

Intake > Engine > Headers > J pipe > Pipe with Resonator > Y pipe > Mufflers

Also, what do you mean give ecu time? Is it so that we could somehow reprogram the ecu on our own? I thought all you had to do was disconnect the battery and let ecu reset? (wait, I just reread it...like you want to give ecu a week or two to adjust? is that it?)

Thanks. :notworthy:notworthy

Intake > Engine > Pre-Cats > J pipe > Pipe with Resonator > Y pipe > Mufflers

As for the ecu needing time to relearn it doesn’t take long. For most exhaust mods there is no time needed at all as you are not changing the readings the o2 sensors are seeing which would cause a difference in fuel trims. But in the case of precate deletes I believe you will be doing the resistor mod to the o2 sensor plugs, ie putting in a resistor in the plugs that go to the two o2 sensors so that they see a constant voltage and don’t produce a check engine light at least this was the case for Suby’s when doing the uppipe cat delete.

Because you will be changing the readings that the o2 sensors are seeing, the ecu will need to relearn fuel trims. Which typically takes no more than 20 miles to do( you need to do 3 or 4, 2k to redline pulls in 4th gear for 6-6 to get your ‘D’ fuel learning cell dialed in) if that to calculate all four cells of fuel learning for the various rpms at various throttle opening angles you can drive your car in.

gentledental4u
10-06-2010, 10:33 AM
Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong but we have 3 cats right?

Pre-cat, There's a cat in the OEM j pipe? , and the third cat

if you delete the cats in the j pipe, and with Richie's long pipe eliminate the third cat...then eliminate the pre-cat...then there's nothing removing exhaust gases anymore??? or are these mods using high flow cats?

L's TLS
10-06-2010, 10:56 AM
Good idea about doing the baseline a lot can change from day to day as far as temps and atmospheric pressure you really need to do the pulls all on the same day and as quickly between pulls as possible to minimize potential changes. Hopefully you know someone at a local dyno, doing 4 separate pulls wouldn’t be cheap to do here, I was quoted 75$ a pop for each time I put my car on the dyno for 3 consecutive pulls.

The PCD’s shouldn’t be too bad to install, just time consuming as long as the PCD’s fitment is spot on for the egr flange. I can grab you the link to the DIY from the TL forums if you haven’t found it already. Looked straight forward, just need to remove a radiator fan to get enough room and put some cardboard on the back side of the radiator to avoid puncturing a hole in it with a tool which apparently several people have done. I know I would appreciate you doing the pulls on 87 but I wouldn’t blame you for dynoing on 93, up here in CO the best gas we have available is 91.



Intake > Engine > Pre-Cats > J pipe > Pipe with Resonator > Y pipe > Mufflers

As for the ecu needing time to relearn it doesn’t take long. For most exhaust mods there is no time needed at all as you are not changing the readings the o2 sensors are seeing which would cause a difference in fuel trims. But in the case of precate deletes I believe you will be doing the resistor mod to the o2 sensor plugs, ie putting in a resistor in the plugs that go to the two o2 sensors so that they see a constant voltage and don’t produce a check engine light at least this was the case for Suby’s when doing the uppipe cat delete.

Because you will be changing the readings that the o2 sensors are seeing, the ecu will need to relearn fuel trims. Which typically takes no more than 20 miles to do( you need to do 3 or 4, 2k to redline pulls in 4th gear for 6-6 to get your ‘D’ fuel learning cell dialed in) if that to calculate all four cells of fuel learning for the various rpms at various throttle opening angles you can drive your car in.

I'll see what i can do about the gas. Currently I have 93 in the tank so if that gets burned off prior I'll throw some 87 in.

Also Rich won't be using the resistor method to trick the ecu. Spark plug defoulers will be used on the secondary o2 sensors to move them further back out of the exhaust gas stream. This causes the sensors to get a lesser reading than the primary sensors. Making the ecu think the cats are still doing their jobs.

I just looked up that DIY you were talking about. Sounds simple enough. I dont know why I thought it was going to be so difficult.
Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong but we have 3 cats right?

Pre-cat, There's a cat in the OEM j pipe? , and the third cat

if you delete the cats in the j pipe, and with Richie's long pipe eliminate the third cat...then eliminate the pre-cat...then there's nothing removing exhaust gases anymore??? or are these mods using high flow cats?


Yes we have three cats. The first two aka pre cats bolt to the engine. Their is a front and rear pre cat. One pre cat for each bank of cylinders. Each bank of cylinders contains 3 cylinders. Thats 6 cylinder or V6 LOL The jpipe has two arms. Each arm bolts to a pre cat. The arms then merge into one single collector and the single collector bolts to the 3rd cat. Pre cat deletes and 3rd cat deletes take away all catalytic converters and nothing will be filtering your exhaust gases. I hope this helps.

krazyfiend
10-06-2010, 12:25 PM
I just looked up that DIY you were talking about. Sounds simple enough. I dont know why I thought it was going to be so difficult.


Mind posting the link? Sorry for being lazy, long day @ work thus far...TIA

tommypenguin
10-06-2010, 12:49 PM
Mind posting the link? Sorry for being lazy, long day @ work thus far...TIA

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=642953

coupe_nasty
10-06-2010, 01:09 PM
Just opened my j-pipe! Going to install it in about 45min :banana:

sitandthink
10-06-2010, 01:31 PM
I'll see what i can do about the gas. Currently I have 93 in the tank so if that gets burned off prior I'll throw some 87 in.

Also Rich won't be using the resistor method to trick the ecu. Spark plug defoulers will be used on the secondary o2 sensors to move them further back out of the exhaust gas stream. This causes the sensors to get a lesser reading than the primary sensors. Making the ecu think the cats are still doing their jobs.

I just looked up that DIY you were talking about. Sounds simple enough. I dont know why I thought it was going to be so difficult.



Yes we have three cats. The first two aka pre cats bolt to the engine. Their is a front and rear pre cat. One pre cat for each bank of cylinders. Each bank of cylinders contains 3 cylinders. Thats 6 cylinder or V6 LOL The jpipe has two arms. Each arm bolts to a pre cat. The arms then merge into one single collector and the single collector bolts to the 3rd cat. Pre cat deletes and 3rd cat deletes take away all catalytic converters and nothing will be filtering your exhaust gases. I hope this helps.

So the jpipe is between the 3rd cat and pre cat? So if we switch out the Jpipe we still ok with smoke check in California? Thanks

tommypenguin
10-06-2010, 02:01 PM
So the jpipe is between the 3rd cat and pre cat? So if we switch out the Jpipe we still ok with smoke check in California? Thanks

The RV6 j pipe goes from the pre cats to the cat back exhaust, replacing the 3rd cat in addition to the stock J pipe. The ALTP J pipe goes between the Pre cats and 3rd cat leaving the 3rd cat in place so you would be able to pass emissions visible inspection. You will likely not pass the visible inspection in CA with the RV6 j pipe mounted. I couldn’t imagine your emissions ratings would be drastically higher with the 3rd cat removed as you are still passing your exhaust through 2 cats to begin with. If you put the Pre cat deletes and the RV6 J pipe in, you will have no cats in your exhaust system, meaning you will pass no state’s smog check or visible inspection.

My plan is to install the PCDs and RV6 J pipe when the PCD’s are available for purchase. When I have to do emissions in a little over 3 years I will install the stock Pre-Cats and stock J pipe to pass emissions, then reinstall the aftermarket exhaust parts again till I have to pass emissions again. I went through the same process with my Suby, not a big deal at all.

coupe_nasty
10-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Just installed the J-pipe and Wow! Well worth the money!

Sound

1. Same at idle
2.Little Higher pitched and louder between 3k and 3,5k RPM's
3. Less Drone inside the car

Power

1. I can Definitley Feel the power difference!
2. Better excelleration and just overall performance! :thmsup:

tommypenguin
10-06-2010, 02:57 PM
Can you post up some sound clips?

coupe_nasty
10-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Can you post up some sound clips?

yea i will as soon as i can

gentledental4u
10-06-2010, 03:26 PM
this is what I have been reading about....can you go into further detail about the drone being less drone in the car? like at what rpms did you see the drone first and by how much percent has it been reduced? thanks

coupe_nasty
10-06-2010, 03:40 PM
this is what I have been reading about....can you go into further detail about the drone being less drone in the car? like at what rpms did you see the drone first and by how much percent has it been reduced? thanks

its less throughout the whole rpm range. The only time its louder is when you get on it and it is between 3 and 3,5k rpms. And even that isnt drone really. Its just louder outside the car. Id say 50% less drone on the highway.

krazyfiend
10-06-2010, 04:19 PM
I just got mine on as well--

5AT though, stock intake, stock exhaust. Let's just say I'm ordering up the Takeda, P2R TBS, in the morning and Megan probably later in the day.. as well as looking fwd to the PCD update from L's (crossing fingers for a uber-superb report)

Nice throttle response improvement...only got 18-20 miles in...feel the engine remapping a bit, but overall it runs up the RPM's a bit more through the gears (at least it looks and feels that way)

Exhaust note is def more pronounced, but nothing ridiculous. I just feel a nice improvement across the power band and more importantly, w/ the 5AT, in the low range.

35 min install (after soaking the nuts in JB Blaster -- really no rust though, 3 month old car)...took me more time to get my low-pro jack out and find my ratchet set--lol.

Very excited to do more now..aka let it breath w/ a SRI since it can let all the exhaust out proper now.

Sorry no vid's or pics..my camerawoman had some studying to do and I was installing against the clock/evening/darkness.

A+ product from R-V6P ..worth it imho.

etout00
10-06-2010, 06:24 PM
I just got mine on as well--

5AT though, stock intake, stock exhaust. Let's just say I'm ordering up the Takeda, P2R TBS, in the morning and Megan probably later in the day.. as well as looking fwd to the PCD update from L's (crossing fingers for a uber-superb report)

Nice throttle response improvement...only got 18-20 miles in...feel the engine remapping a bit, but overall it runs up the RPM's a bit more through the gears (at least it looks and feels that way)

Exhaust note is def more pronounced, but nothing ridiculous. I just feel a nice improvement across the power band and more importantly, w/ the 5AT, in the low range.

35 min install (after soaking the nuts in JB Blaster -- really no rust though, 3 month old car)...took me more time to get my low-pro jack out and find my ratchet set--lol.

Very excited to do more now..aka let it breath w/ a SRI since it can let all the exhaust out proper now.

Sorry no vid's or pics..my camerawoman had some studying to do and I was installing against the clock/evening/darkness.

A+ product from R-V6P ..worth it imho.

So with the stock exhaust/intake and the j-pipe installed is there any drone at all while you are cruising. Any different exhaust tone while at idle? I want the added benefit of performance but no drone, which is why I would not be planning on adding a catback exhaust if I did end up getting this j-pipe.

hondaracer4vtec
10-06-2010, 06:56 PM
Came home late today to even start working on it...but it did come in!!! cant wait to install it now

tommypenguin
10-06-2010, 09:33 PM
For reference I found a couple other threads that have DIY on PCD's for the TL...

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740621

Copied from Innacurate's post at acurazine...

Post w/pics of the install (A) (click here) (http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11263348&postcount=43)

Post w/pics of the install (B)(click here) (http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11324264&postcount=47)

L's TLS
10-07-2010, 04:40 AM
So with the stock exhaust/intake and the j-pipe installed is there any drone at all while you are cruising. Any different exhaust tone while at idle? I want the added benefit of performance but no drone, which is why I would not be planning on adding a catback exhaust if I did end up getting this j-pipe.

With stock exhaust you will have NO difference is exhaust note or drone. So you are good to go :thmsup:
For reference I found a couple other threads that have DIY on PCD's for the TL...

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740621

Copied from Innacurate's post at acurazine...

Post w/pics of the install (A) (click here) (http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11263348&postcount=43)

Post w/pics of the install (B)(click here) (http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11324264&postcount=47)

You the man Tommy :thumbsup:

krazyfiend
10-07-2010, 05:09 AM
Came home late today to even start working on it...but it did come in!!! cant wait to install it now

Nice! I was grinning for a good 15-20 minutes while driving my car after the install-- enjoy!

With stock exhaust you will have NO difference is exhaust note or drone. So you are good to go :thmsup:

+1


You the man Tommy :thumbsup:

Agreed, thanks Tommy!

rudypoo
10-07-2010, 06:52 PM
boo im so jealous.. mine just got to canadian customs today.. im ITCHIN

techn1ne
10-07-2010, 08:51 PM
yooo let me know how much customs ends up chargin u i might grab this by spring!

boo im so jealous.. mine just got to canadian customs today.. im ITCHIN

rudypoo
10-07-2010, 09:24 PM
ya il report back here..

it all depends on what price richard wong declares for the j-pipe. 400 so 16% of that (stupid hst) + other things like handling fee and such.. i wud be happy to pay no more than 50 for customs.. but that's just me day dreaming. i guess well see either tomorow or tuesday next week (holiday monday).

tommypenguin
10-12-2010, 10:36 PM
I sent the deposit yesterday, so I would assume I'm going to get them Friday or Tuesday (depending on if the parcel service delivers on Columbus Day). Once I receive them I plan on doing another baseline dyno, even though I got 240whp and 221wtq but those were under different conditions. I want to have close to the same conditions as possible when dynoing these new parts. After baseline, I will install the jpipe. give the ecu time to adjust to the improved flow. Do a dyno with the jpipe. Then I will add the PCDs, give ecu time to readjust and dyno again. I hope to have all of thise done within a week to two weeks time barring any setbacks.

I will definitely keep everyone posted with pictures and video. I'm partially excited to install the PCDs and partially not. I expect that install to be a PITA but I'll hope for the best and expect the worst. I'm on the fence as to use 93 octane or 87. I used 93 on all of my other dynos, but I realize not everyone uses 93 or has it available to them.

Any word on the PCD's, did they arrive yet? I hope you do a centerfold photoshoot when they arrive.

goldv6
10-13-2010, 08:32 AM
dam i want one for my stock sedan

L's TLS
10-13-2010, 08:42 AM
Any word on the PCD's, did they arrive yet? I hope you do a centerfold photoshoot when they arrive.

I received them last night. Didnt open them as I went right to sleep when I got in from work. I'll def takes some pics tonight though :thmsup:

krazyfiend
10-13-2010, 08:52 AM
I received them last night. Didnt open them as I went right to sleep when I got in from work. I'll def takes some pics tonight though :thmsup:

No. Cut work & go snap pics, NOW! :D

Very welcome news that you received them...installlllllllll ;-)

tommypenguin
10-13-2010, 02:34 PM
I received them last night. Didnt open them as I went right to sleep when I got in from work. I'll def takes some pics tonight though :thmsup:

Man I can't wait to see your pics and hear about the results the tl's have been banking on.

coupe_nasty
10-13-2010, 03:47 PM
wondering if the pcd's will make the car sound to raspy. Also will they throw a code?

BPearl2010
10-13-2010, 04:05 PM
You guys are losing me with the PCD.. lol What is that.. i goggled and got back PVC piping haha!!!!

Is there a reason why you guys went with Richie jpipe Vs ATLP?

coupe_nasty
10-13-2010, 04:09 PM
You guys are losing me with the PCD.. lol What is that.. i goggled and got back PVC piping haha!!!!

Is there a reason why you guys went with Richie jpipe Vs ATLP?

pcd is pre cat deletes. and i went with richie because of the long tube style jpipe. no need to buy a race pipe or hi flow cat. With richies its all one peice. No more cat. Lots of power.

BPearl2010
10-13-2010, 04:09 PM
I was also looking at his Dyno numbers.. And everything looks off.

Max HP i was was 196??? That's LOW! I just made 211 stock ?

coupe_nasty
10-13-2010, 04:13 PM
You guys are losing me with the PCD.. lol What is that.. i goggled and got back PVC piping haha!!!!

Is there a reason why you guys went with Richie jpipe Vs ATLP?

yea i dunno about that chart, all i know is i definatly felt a gain :D

BPearl2010
10-13-2010, 04:18 PM
yea i dunno about that chart, all i know is i definatly felt a gain :D

I feel like a noob, i was over here like wtf are you talking about long tube..

This whole time i was looking at the V2 haha!!!!!!!!

I really like the Long tube design, i like that there is no Cat or addition race pipe needed or high flow cat.

BPearl2010
10-13-2010, 04:31 PM
Now I'm trying to find out where the PCD go? haha.. WTF i feel like a Noob.. I should know this.. HAhA!!

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/66482/4c37d8a730403_66482b.jpg

I just don't see where the PCD would go. :(..

Are they what connect the Header to the J-pipe?

coupe_nasty
10-13-2010, 04:45 PM
Now I'm trying to find out where the PCD go? haha.. WTF i feel like a Noob.. I should know this.. HAhA!!

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/66482/4c37d8a730403_66482b.jpg

I just don't see where the PCD would go. :(..

Are they what connect the Header to the J-pipe?

yes they are exactly that:thmsup:

krazyfiend
10-13-2010, 05:33 PM
wondering if the pcd's will make the car sound to raspy. Also will they throw a code?

If you have a CB-ES , more than likely you will -- Richie is up front about it...as are the TL guys over on Acurazine, and they have videos showing a full PCD>J-Pipe>CB-ES from Richie...rasp for sure...a simple resonator install and all was well... talk about some mean sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIBJNDW6yGk&feature=player_embedded

Throwing a code? That's why the O2 simulators are on board..the Acura guys have nothing but praise and no thrown code reports for those with the PCD's on... see comment below & why L's is being a guinea pig.


You guys are losing me with the PCD.. lol What is that.. i goggled and got back PVC piping haha!!!!

Is there a reason why you guys went with Richie jpipe Vs ATLP?

Jorge, Richie's 'long' J-pipe basically removes the need for a 'test pipe' because it deletes the 'tri-flow' third Cat in our exhaust system... ATLP installs usually have a test pipe thrown in the mix too (I could be wrong). Richie's work and standards are impeccable and the Acura guys really believe strongly in his stuff. ATLP items look just as good, but for what I wanted-- and the timing of Richie rls'ing his pipe (and able to get it for the pre-purchase price a few wks back)...I went with R-V6P aka Richie's option for the J-Pipe. Considering I'll go with his PCD option when avail...might as well build a consumer relation.

PCD's

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Richiev6/4a7a7db5ad50e_66482b.jpg

look simple, but they ain't cheap...why? R&D and making sure the O2 simulators don't throw CEL codes -- the TL one's would not work for our fitting so he had to design one's slightly bent different, which L's is beta testing currently.

tommypenguin
10-13-2010, 08:11 PM
By the way will any of the members who have installed the RV6 J pipe post sound clips? You guys are going to end up forcing me to charge the j pipe on the card to hear it. :)

Caboose
10-13-2010, 08:14 PM
I don't know much about this stuff, but it looks to be rather beneficial and seems to be getting a lot of attention since there are nine pages on this thread already, but is this possible to do on the LX i4 Sedan? Is there any welding involved and is it a possible DIY?

Also, would this void my warranty?

BPearl2010
10-13-2010, 08:20 PM
If you have a CB-ES , more than likely you will -- Richie is up front about it...as are the TL guys over on Acurazine, and they have videos showing a full PCD>J-Pipe>CB-ES from Richie...rasp for sure...a simple resonator install and all was well... talk about some mean sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIBJNDW6yGk&feature=player_embedded

Throwing a code? That's why the O2 simulators are on board..the Acura guys have nothing but praise and no thrown code reports for those with the PCD's on... see comment below & why L's is being a guinea pig.




Jorge, Richie's 'long' J-pipe basically removes the need for a 'test pipe' because it deletes the 'tri-flow' third Cat in our exhaust system... ATLP installs usually have a test pipe thrown in the mix too (I could be wrong). Richie's work and standards are impeccable and the Acura guys really believe strongly in his stuff. ATLP items look just as good, but for what I wanted-- and the timing of Richie rls'ing his pipe (and able to get it for the pre-purchase price a few wks back)...I went with R-V6P aka Richie's option for the J-Pipe. Considering I'll go with his PCD option when avail...might as well build a consumer relation.

PCD's

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/Richiev6/4a7a7db5ad50e_66482b.jpg

look simple, but they ain't cheap...why? R&D and making sure the O2 simulators don't throw CEL codes -- the TL one's would not work for our fitting so he had to design one's slightly bent different, which L's is beta testing currently.

Thanks man.. Yeah i am really loving Richies jpipe design much over the ATLP.. I like the fact there is no Race pipe, straight even flow.

The PCD would be a very nice mod but again you would end up having to put a Resonator to make up for so much flow.. The sound from that video was just mind killing right there but i know with a resonator install it will even out the tone again.. It's like installing headers, the sound quickly goes from nice to rice. lol!


By the way will any of the members who have installed the RV6 J pipe post sound clips? You guys are going to end up forcing me to charge the j pipe on the card to hear it. :)

I want to hear this setup with the Magnaflow system. lol!!!!

tommypenguin
10-13-2010, 08:22 PM
I don't know much about this stuff, but it looks to be rather beneficial and seems to be getting a lot of attention since there are nine pages on this thread already, but is this possible to do on the LX i4 Sedan? Is there any welding involved and is it a possible DIY?

Also, would this void my warranty?

The PCD's and J pipe will not work on a 4 cylinder, no fabbing will work as a V6 and a straight 4 have two completely different paths that the exhaust gases leave the engine.

coupe_nasty
10-14-2010, 03:47 AM
By the way will any of the members who have installed the RV6 J pipe post sound clips? You guys are going to end up forcing me to charge the j pipe on the card to hear it. :)

should be getting a sound clip today or tommorow

krazyfiend
10-14-2010, 08:22 AM
The sound from that video was just mind killing right there but i know with a resonator install it will even out the tone again.. It's like installing headers, the sound quickly goes from nice to rice. lol!


The very last part of that video is a TL w/ the resonator installed...I notice almost no change in exhaust note aside from the rasp being gone. It's a very quick pass by though and not a thorough as the showing off of the setup w/ rasp (no resonator) during the first 3/4ths of the vid.

By the way will any of the members who have installed the RV6 J pipe post sound clips? You guys are going to end up forcing me to charge the j pipe on the card to hear it. :)

I'm on my stock exhaust until the PCD option becomes avail...honestly...it's just a more aggressive tone because the car stays in it's gears longer (they feel taller) but this is with the 5AT..so really, a sound clip wouldn't do much.. Even richie has noted that there really isn't any sound change..or a very small amount when throwing these J-pipes from him in the mix. I have no doubt that with an aftermarket exhaust, w/ the increased flow..your exhaust note will be more pronounced aka ill nasty mean :)

BPearl2010
10-14-2010, 09:40 AM
The very last part of that video is a TL w/ the resonator installed...I notice almost no change in exhaust note aside from the rasp being gone. It's a very quick pass by though and not a thorough as the showing off of the setup w/ rasp (no resonator) during the first 3/4ths of the vid.

I have to look at the video again, i can't here at work.. I have no Youtube or Photobucket. lol.

So at the very end the TL had a Resonator and the Rasp sounds with away but the Exhaust tone was the same..

That's still a little high pitch for me..

hondaracer4vtec
10-14-2010, 09:43 AM
best install!!

I have a vid on my facebook. anyone know how to copy that and send it to youtube?

BPearl2010
10-14-2010, 09:47 AM
best install!!

I have a vid on my facebook. anyone know how to copy that and send it to youtube?

nice..

You have to download it to your computer which i think Facebook doesn't have a download option..

krazyfiend
10-14-2010, 11:25 AM
best install!!

I have a vid on my facebook. anyone know how to copy that and send it to youtube?

Replay Media Catcher (ahem, but it is a pay program)

or you can pm me your facebook link...I can friend you if the vid is private via your security settings and download the vid - Up to youtube...

Do you not have the original mp4/flv file that you Up'd to FB or something?

hondaracer4vtec
10-14-2010, 12:52 PM
pm'd

rudypoo
10-20-2010, 04:02 AM
yooo let me know how much customs ends up chargin u i might grab this by spring!

I picked it up yesterday.. Customs came up to $29.30 in total.. Mr. Wong came thru by declaring it as a $200 part... sweet. Finally after 2 AGONIZING weeks!

On my way to installing it now..

for some reason the box was mangled, but the j pipe looks unharmed. HOPEFULLY no surprises during install

techn1ne
10-20-2010, 08:36 AM
I picked it up yesterday.. Customs came up to $29.30 in total.. Mr. Wong came thru by declaring it as a $200 part... sweet. Finally after 2 AGONIZING weeks!

On my way to installing it now..

for some reason the box was mangled, but the j pipe looks unharmed. HOPEFULLY no surprises during install

30 bucks of customs is more than fair....

yeah keep us posted on the install you may still be the first to get a sound clip of this thing on here :lmao:. this mod looks too tempting but i want to know how interior/exterior sound changes are if its accompanied with a catback system like the magnaflow.

rudypoo
10-20-2010, 08:58 AM
just got back from the shop.. i was gonna do it myself but when i looked underneath, the shop chopped off the flanges from the magnaflow catback when i did the resonator and cat delete.. i had to get them to weld it on.

the drive home was crazy.. felt more peppy, not so much change in sound, but 1st to 3rd is just insane.. il try to do the clip thing..

tommypenguin
10-20-2010, 09:11 AM
just got back from the shop.. i was gonna do it myself but when i looked underneath, the shop chopped off the flanges from the magnaflow catback when i did the resonator and cat delete.. i had to get them to weld it on.

the drive home was crazy.. felt more peppy, not so much change in sound, but 1st to 3rd is just insane.. il try to do the clip thing..

Please get a sound clip up, at this rate I’ll be the first one to post one up and I won’t have this pipe on my car till January. :)

BPearl2010
10-20-2010, 11:15 AM
should be getting a sound clip today or tommorow

5 days later.. ??? :dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno:

Don't make me hunt you down.. :lmao:

gentledental4u
10-20-2010, 11:58 AM
it's raspier...imagine magnaflow with more raspberries

coupe_nasty
10-20-2010, 12:03 PM
5 days later.. ??? :dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno:

Don't make me hunt you down.. :lmao:

sorry guys my buddy has the hd video camera, i dont have one. Been waiting to see him. Hopefully very soon

BPearl2010
10-20-2010, 12:14 PM
sorry guys my buddy has the hd video camera, i dont have one. Been waiting to see him. Hopefully very soon

All good man.. Just go hunt him down. lol :notworthy

gentledental4u
10-20-2010, 12:31 PM
All good man.. Just go hunt him down. lol :notworthy

this sounds like a job for Dog!!

BPearl2010
10-20-2010, 12:40 PM
this sounds like a job for Dog!!

You just don't know about me.. lol!! :dude:

Sauceboy01
10-20-2010, 03:20 PM
Just e-mailed them about fitment on my Crosstour 4WD. Hope it fits! If so, I'll be the first CT with this installed! I have plans my friends.. I have big big plans..

I installed the K&N Tyhpoon CAI over the weekend, and the sound is intense so far. Gains are also to be felt, but ever so slightly.

My goal below ;) ;)

tommypenguin
10-20-2010, 05:32 PM
The ct on those vossens and drop looks really good, photoshop?

Sauceboy01
10-20-2010, 09:44 PM
The ct on those vossens and drop looks really good, photoshop?

Yes, that is a Photoshop of my goal with the CT. Mine is white. ill be doing 20's instead and the drop won't be as severe ofcourse.

Now the tough part is finding lowering springs That will work!

coupe_nasty
10-23-2010, 05:54 AM
Heres a sound clip link of my car and at the track

http://www.vimeo.com/16089439

BPearl2010
10-23-2010, 09:14 AM
Sounds good man.. I don't like the Low end sounds from the HKS but once the RMPS get up it sounds really good..

The respt sounds can go away if you install a 1 foot Resonator.. It will sound much deeper..

coupe_nasty
10-23-2010, 09:32 AM
Sounds good man.. I don't like the Low end sounds from the HKS but once the RMPS get up it sounds really good..

The respt sounds can go away if you install a 1 foot Resonator.. It will sound much deeper..

thanks man, hey have u gone to the track yet? im excited to see what you run with all your mods

BPearl2010
10-23-2010, 09:40 AM
thanks man, hey have u gone to the track yet? im excited to see what you run with all your mods

Me and Chaqui(carlos) are going this Friday coming up. But I'm trying to find a HD camera because i hate my POS Olympus 8000 camera

sitandthink
10-24-2010, 11:09 AM
Most of us here have Magnaflow CBE, only 2.25in pipe. The J-pipe has 2.5" out. I saw on Acurazine http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787301 and they said it will cause bottle-necking if going from large pipe to smaller pipe so I wonder if any of you guy experience it? Thanks

sitandthink
10-25-2010, 03:12 PM
bump

nuzey
10-25-2010, 05:37 PM
Heres a sound clip link of my car and at the track

http://www.vimeo.com/16089439

Yo man, that sounds sick! I like it :thmsup:

tommypenguin
10-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Heres a sound clip link of my car and at the track

http://www.vimeo.com/16089439

Sounds really good. I like it a lot.:thmsup:

L's TLS
10-26-2010, 08:17 AM
That currensy track on your video? LOL

coupe_nasty
10-26-2010, 12:51 PM
That currensy track on your video? LOL

yea currensy lol

Richie V6
10-30-2010, 07:22 AM
Can't believe I didn't find this post sooner. Any updates on the PCD install? I am getting some made for the 7th gen accord and I would like to get some made for the 8th gen as well.

tommypenguin
10-30-2010, 09:01 AM
I'm waiting as well Richie I'm dying to hear how the fitment is for the egr flange and if there is any CEL. If you have another set of pcd prototypes I would buy them now and have then on my car within a day or two after they arrive...

blackv6
01-21-2011, 09:29 AM
what is the latest version of the jpipe out right now? Is it 2 or 3?

BPearl2010
01-21-2011, 12:27 PM
v3 direct bolt on to our cars (V6)

blackv6
01-21-2011, 09:53 PM
oh man...gonna add that to the list too haha

A&Fbro28
01-21-2011, 10:32 PM
Heres a sound clip link of my car and at the track

http://www.vimeo.com/16089439
It's too raspy for me. I'm doing the j-pipe on my TL with a apexi ws2 or greddy evo style exhaust. Has a much more mellow G35/350Z sound to me. Hell Megan racing is even stepping up in both our cars. The apexi ws1 copy has 2.5in piping and is smooth as silk sound. I just don't think the N1 rice can sound deserves to be on a car as nice and mature as the accord/TL