Bridgestone Turanza LS-Vs

[Trip]

I've had the LS-Vs on my 06 Accord EX-L for almost three days. I ditched the Michelin Pilots that came with the 17" EX V6 alloy wheels. Tire size is 215/50R17.

The difference was noticable immediately. The LS-Vs are *much* quieter than the Pilots. The ride is a much smoother, too, but that could be because the tread seems a lot deeper than the Pliots. (The Pilots only had 2,000 miles on them.) Handling is definitely better - the steering tracks straight and has a firm on center feel. And the wet handling is FANTASTIC. :yes: THe Pilots did NOT like water. I even got my rear end to swing around at least once and on the highway in the rain, the steering got super light suggesting I was hyrdoplaning. I had a chance to put the LS-Vs thru their paces in the rain / snow we had today and they were exceptional. At hgihway speeds the steering stayed taut and lane changes were sure with no wiggle waggle like the Pilots. Also, the LS-Vs seem to have a curb protection rim molded into the rubber. There is a slight overhang where the LS-Vs slightly protrude past the lip of the wheel. The rubber should contact a curb first before the alloys. :thmsup: The Pilots almost looked "counter sunk" by comparison.

Initial impressions exceeded my expectations. I hope they continue to perform as well as the tread wears. After I've driven on them a bit more I'll update my comments. I'll be making the move to NC next week so I'll get a straight 9 - 10 hours on them - not to mention the roller derby driving in Raleigh. :D

[RTexasF]

The LS-V's are my choice to replace the Michs when mine wear out. Read many positive reviews but glad to hear good stuff first hand.

[ken972]

Ill join the Turanza LSV fanclub! I put them on my 04 V6 Sedan and couldnt be happier with them. Better in every area then the oem Michelin S8's in my case. I should have made the switch a long time ago. I can back up the good reviews over at the tire rack for these tires. Quieter, handles better, better in dry/rain/snow you name it. Much less harsh over bumps. :thmsup: :D

[according2me]

I had the LS-H's a couple of years ago and I noticed the improvement immediately also. I got good service from my Michelins (>80K miles), but they were never as sure-footed (wet or dry) and quiet as the Bridgestones.

I'm going cheap lately. Yesterday I put BFG Touring T/As from Sams on the front. I still have BFGs on the rear from the last set.

[stryker]

Just returned home today from a trip up the coast, and had my first really unsecure feeling in this new car. Tires of course, where the culprit, loads of rain coming back down the coast, some windy roads and here we go slippin and slidden. These Michelins are garbage, and I can't understand why Honda would choose to put them on the new cars. This warrents a serious e mail to Corp.
I wasn't even going that fast, probably 50 to 60, and these things just let loose, seriously I thought this was it, I wasn't going to be able to regain control, PANICK!! I did keep her on the road and straightened out, but I'm now thinking these tires have to go. I've also read some good reviews on the Bridgestones and would consider these. Although I feel robbed with the concept of buying a new car and have to replace the NEW tires.

Has anyone out there had any experience with AVON M550 A/S Tyres? Ive also heard some great reviews On these Ultra High Performance All Season Tires. And you can't beat the Price, Have found them ranging anywhere from $100.00 to $115.00.

Any personal experience stories will be appreciated.......
Until then, Safe driven to everyone and scrap your MICHELINS!!!

[ken972]

I have about 38k on my car. Ive actually had 2 sets of the michelin S8's on the car....long story short..had 2 blow out on different occasions over potholes and the people at fault paid for new tires..and i didnt want to research at the time so I made the mistake of putting the same damn S8's back on the car..

Anywho...After about 12-15k miles on those S8's is when a road that is just a little wet make the car feel real squimish..as if you are on ice. Even going just 10mph. Ill never buy a michelin tire again. Im not big on the french on top of it at least Japan is a better Allie.

Cant help ya with Avon..but F michelin!

[princess]

I'm doing my best to wear out these Michellins.... :naughty: I don't like them at all!! We plan to go with the Turanzas...we've loved them on other Hondas we've owned!! :D

Um, maybe I should just ask for new tires..... :dunno: I hate replacing tires that aren't shot, but he did it when he got the Pilot, so I shouldn't feel guilty, right??? I've put 15K on these....so it's not like he did...replaced the Goodyears in the first week! :)

I think I'll start looking for some...... :thmsup: they can be for mother's day... or my birthday or something.... :dunno:

[n1accord]

After a few hundred miles on the OEM Michelins with steel wheels, I bought a set of OEM Turanzas with alloys (take-offs from a coupe). Turanzas get my vote. The feel and sound are better.

[ken972]

I forgot to mention..the car tracks or drives straighter witht the turanza lsv as well. :thmsup: Maybe I should start working for them. Im always amazed at how a tire can affect a cars performance so much.

[hermann]

I forgot to mention..the car tracks or drives straighter witht the turanza lsv as well. :thmsup: Maybe I should start working for them. Im always amazed at how a tire can affect a cars performance so much.

Ken,

I will be getting rid of the $20(what Honda pays) Michelin s8's soon.. Hope I get the same results as you. :yes:

[mwmcginn]

I am really surprised about the michelins, I think this may be an exception as many of my aftermarket best experiences, although expensive.

[ken972]

Many people here have had good luck with the goodyear triple treads as well. Im sure everyone is different..but for me I really like the LSV. I suppose for a 4cyl or if you dont drive fast that the LSH would do just fine and maybe give a slightly softer ride.

[honda761]

I got rid of my stock Michelins after 700 miles. Took the loss and not looking back. The world of grip and quiet and smooth feel with the Falkens St-115 is well worth it.

[SSMV6]

Am I the only one who likes the Michelins? :dunno: They're not a performance tire, but they hold the road well enough. When these wear out, I'm probably not going to replace them with the same tire because of the cost, not the quality.

[ken972]

It seems from what Ive read and what happened to me...that at about 15k ish the tires start to loose alot of grip in the rain and produce a more jarring ride. You might not have gotten to that point yet. They were acceptable up till that point for me.

[SteveV]

What have you guys paid for your 17" Turanza's?

If we end up getting an I4 EX, then I want to upgrade to the 17" Silver Stars or the 6 speed wheels and I want a decent all season tire for them.

[Dubfire]

My 06 EX-L Coupe came with Turanzas. Love the smooth quiet ride. Did not know they came with other tires. Are the Michelins really that bad?

[according2me]

In my experience with the MXV4+s, they road very smooth and silent over fresh asphalt, anything else caused a racket. Also accellerating onto other streets from a stop in wet conditions tended to cause slippage. On the same roads the Turanzas were noticeably better and quieter.

The Michelins did give a few more MPG and lasted forever (80K) before reaching the wear bars. Overall, the Turanzas were a better overall Grand touring tire IMHO, at least for me.

I've gone to a cheaper Michelin product lately and am pleasantly surprised. The BFG Touring T/A's from Sam's work quite well on my Accord and have very good traction.

[SSMV6]

For anyone who's going to buy the Turanza LS-V's or LS-Z's, Bridgestone has a $100 rebate for the purchase of 4 tires right now.

LS-H's and LS-T's only have a $50 rebate.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/specialevents/brg_rebate_06.jsp

[Trip]

My 06 EX-L Coupe came with Turanzas. Love the smooth quiet ride. Did not know they came with other tires. Are the Michelins really that bad?

Dubfire - you must have a 5-speed sedan or a coupe. These models come with Turanza EL-41s. From what I've read, they're better than the stock Michelins but not much. Honda seems to choose tires that emphasize fuel economy, longevity, and ride comfort over performance. My experience with the stock tires confirms this. And to make matters worse, the stock tires seem to degrade quickly in terms of performance even though there is substantial tread left on them. :thumbsdow Wet handling especially always bothered me about the stock tires. They've instilled no confidence and being the active saftey thinker I am, I was always concerned that a subtle manuever in the rain woud send me skating let alone a real emergency situation.

If you haven't noticed any deficiencies while driving, the tires are probably OK for your the type of driving you do. But, getting better tires could be a proactive move for that unseen situation where the extra grip may help. ABS and EBD are there to help, too, though better rubber will only maximize their capabilities. :yes:

[Trip]

I've had the LS-Vs on my 06 Accord EX-L for almost three days. I ditched the Michelin Pilots that came with the 17" EX V6 alloy wheels. Tire size is 215/50R17.

The difference was noticable immediately. The LS-Vs are *much* quieter than the Pilots. The ride is a much smoother, too, but that could be because the tread seems a lot deeper than the Pliots. (The Pilots only had 2,000 miles on them.) Handling is definitely better - the steering tracks straight and has a firm on center feel. And the wet handling is FANTASTIC. :yes: THe Pilots did NOT like water. I even got my rear end to swing around at least once and on the highway in the rain, the steering got super light suggesting I was hyrdoplaning. I had a chance to put the LS-Vs thru their paces in the rain / snow we had today and they were exceptional. At hgihway speeds the steering stayed taut and lane changes were sure with no wiggle waggle like the Pilots. Also, the LS-Vs seem to have a curb protection rim molded into the rubber. There is a slight overhang where the LS-Vs slightly protrude past the lip of the wheel. The rubber should contact a curb first before the alloys. :thmsup: The Pilots almost looked "counter sunk" by comparison.

Initial impressions exceeded my expectations. I hope they continue to perform as well as the tread wears. After I've driven on them a bit more I'll update my comments. I'll be making the move to NC next week so I'll get a straight 9 - 10 hours on them - not to mention the roller derby driving in Raleigh. :D

A couple more weeks, 1 thousand more miles, rain storms, a 10 hour drive, and plenty of highway antics and I'm loving these tires more and more!

My initial impressions with these tires have not changed. The drive from PA to NC was very reassuring. The tires held tight in the dry and in torrential downpours. There was no squirrely wiggling when changing lanes at highway speeds in the rain like the Michelins.

There is a noticable lack of tire roar in the cabin. :thmsup: ... except on some course surfaces but even then it is not as bad as the Michelins.

These tires are a great match for the Accord - they GREATLY enhance performance while retaining ride comfort. I'm not sure about mileage yet. My engine is still green (only 3K) and the drive down here was with enough junk in my trunk :D that the muffler was practically sparking on the ground. :paranoid: But around the city during the first couple weeks I did not see a loss in mpgs.

I'm looking forward to many more miles on these tires. According to reviews, even at half tread, they still performed very well. :thmsup: :thmsup: :thmsup:

[ken972]

I was ironically just thinking about how much I like my car now on the ride home from work. For me the bridgestone turanza lsv and this accord were meant for each other. Its really fun to drive now and way better in all areas vs the michelins.

[Dubfire]

Dubfire - you must have a 5-speed sedan or a coupe. These models come with Turanza EL-41s. From what I've read, they're better than the stock Michelins but not much. Honda seems to choose tires that emphasize fuel economy, longevity, and ride comfort over performance. My experience with the stock tires confirms this. And to make matters worse, the stock tires seem to degrade quickly in terms of performance even though there is substantial tread left on them. :thumbsdow Wet handling especially always bothered me about the stock tires. They've instilled no confidence and being the active saftey thinker I am, I was always concerned that a subtle manuever in the rain woud send me skating let alone a real emergency situation.

If you haven't noticed any deficiencies while driving, the tires are probably OK for your the type of driving you do. But, getting better tires could be a proactive move for that unseen situation where the extra grip may help. ABS and EBD are there to help, too, though better rubber will only maximize their capabilities. :yes:


You're right. They are the 41's and from what I have read, they dont perform very well in wet weather which is not a good thing considering I live in South Florida. Once these go, I will definitley upgrade.

[Carloscda37]

How does those tires match up against Yokohama Avid v4S's?

[princess]

He ordered some tires for my car!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Turanza LS-Vs!!!!!!! :jumping: :jumping: :jumping: :jumping:

They'll be here on Wednesday. I'm not sure yet when they'll be put on... :dunno:

[princess]

The tires arrived yesterday.....I'm not sure when they'll get put on. Possibly Saturday.

[RTexasF]

Sure sounds like you'll like them with all the positive comments here. If I could afford to ditch the Michs now I would buy the LS-V also.....and will when the time comes.

[princess]

They got a rebate going now...100$ of a set, I think.

At lunch he asked if I had plans tomorrow....I think he MAY be taking my car to work & switching them over!!!! :D

I LOVED the Bridgestones on our other Hondas.... he had Turanzas, I had Potenzas. Both worked out fine. When we bought this car, I wanted tires too. I just couldn't justify throwing away new tires. But now I think with all he's put inot the Ridgeline, he's feeling guilty.... so I get new tires!! :yes: I haven't complained one bit about what he's put into the truck. I enjoy the extras too!

[RTexasF]

UH-HUH Guilt is a good thing sometimes!

[princess]

He's spent quite a few pennies this month & it's MY birthday month....so I think he's just feeling a bit guilty.

I got what I wanted.....the extra drawers!!! I'm happy. Just a card & for me not to cook dinner on the day & I'm set!! :D

[RTexasF]

I got what I wanted.....the extra drawers!!!

PLEASE! Let's not discuss such things here! :lmao:

[stevencrosbie]

OMG.....I didn't even think of that...hahahaa :lmao: :lmao:

[princess]

:blush: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I think only a southerner would use the word "drawers" for THAT!! :yes:

[SteveV]

Anyone else have an opinion on getting 225/50/17 vs. 215/50/17?

see this post, Cordi2005 recommended getting 225's instead: http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5819

I will be getting some Turanza LS-V on 17" HFP graphite rims for an 06 sedan and the suspension will remain stock. I would like to decide on the tire size before the current Bridgestone rebate expires.

[princess]

The tires are on. He said he can feel & hear a difference. I haven't driven it yet. I will later. He's happy with the change!! :thmsup:

[Conundrum]

I have Michelin MXM4's on my 06 V6 6spd coupe, and after reading so much bad press about these tires I expected the worst, but honestly I don't mind them that much. I mean they are not "great" tires, but they hold the road well to me...both in wet and dry conditions (and this is up to around 140KMH/80MPH).

When winter comes around, I plan on getting some performance winter tires for the car...and I've been looking at Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSports and Dunlop Winter Sport M3s (just in the browsing stages now though). Once I wear out the Michelins...I'll probably end up looking for some summer performance tires to use in the non-snowcovered months of the year.

Out of interest, in those who use winter tires, what size do you usually go with...I have 215/50R17s on the coupe now (stock from Honda), but was looking at 215-225/60R15s for winter (remember hearing someone say you should drop down 2 inches in rim size for winters)...any suggestions?

[SSMV6]

Out of interest, in those who use winter tires, what size do you usually go with...I have 215/50R17s on the coupe now (stock from Honda), but was looking at 215-225/60R15s for winter (remember hearing someone say you should drop down 2 inches in rim size for winters)...any suggestions? You might have a little bit of trouble fitting the 15" wheels over the stock calipers. Wheel size doesn't matter as much as tire width when it comes to snow. You could get snow tires that are the OEM size and still have great snow and ice traction, but you might want to godown to 16" to lower the costs. 17" snow tires = $$$$. :eek:

[princess]

Drove my car with the new tires!! I LOVE 'em!!! I was so surprised to really tell the difference just in the residential areas....but out on the freeway....whoa! They're quieter & have a solid feel.

I'm SOOO happy!!! :banana:

[Inspector1]

Drove my car with the new tires!! I LOVE 'em!!! I was so surprised to really tell the difference just in the residential areas....but out on the freeway....whoa! They're quieter & have a solid feel.

I'm SOOO happy!!! :banana:

That's wonderful!!!!! Nothing like a new pair of shoes :yes: :thmsup: :thmsup:

I1;)

[princess]

:yes: I've only felt anything close when we finally bought new tires for the '86. It had cheap ones on it when we bought it & they would not wear out!!!

We went to the snow & slid down hill when we were parked.... so we bought new ones as soon as we got home! They were Potenzas & they liked that car!!

[Trip]

Drove my car with the new tires!! I LOVE 'em!!! I was so surprised to really tell the difference just in the residential areas....but out on the freeway....whoa! They're quieter & have a solid feel.

I'm SOOO happy!!! :banana:


Congrats!! :D The LS-Vs impressed me from day one and the novelty still has not worn off. I can fling the car into corners, track straight down the highway, and drive in rainstorms with total confidence. Driving around Raleigh is like driving on a roller coaster and the handling is terrific. Mileage does not seem to be suffering - it's holding steady. And to boot, they provide a comfortable ride and are quieter than the stock tires.

You'll keep on lovin' 'em. :banana:

[princess]

When I first got on the road I wiggled around (my butt in the seat, not the car on the road) & commented on them feeling sturdier.... my daughter was cracking up! :lmao:

[RTexasF]

Princess,

What brand of tire was replaced with the Bridgestones?

[princess]

This time the Michellins.... they gripped OK, but the sides being soft, they swayed more than I'd like.

The '86? Sheesh that was a long time ago... it sounded like the first part of another brand. Like yomo or toyo.... :dunno: they were really awful!

[princess]

I'm sure you're sick of hearing the praise.... (I get points for enthusiasm, right?) but I noticed something today: before to still hear the music at the lowest volume it would be set at 04. With these tires on the exact same crappy roads I can hear the music all the way down to 01!!!

Of course, when by myself that's not where the volume is usually at. :D

[Trip]

I'll throw in anotehr 2cents of praise... :D

Some really nasty down pours and thunder storms came thru Raleigh yesterday. Had no issues what-so-ever driving home last night. :thmsup: The car tracked well, the steering never felt disconnected, and I was able to turn with out sliding. And they continue to impress me oin the dry, too. Definitely quieter. Lane changes and cornering is uneventful and sure footed. All this and my mielage has been great. Actually it was up a 'lil. :D

Very happy with these tires. :banana:

[princess]

He got them to squeal!!!!! Not just chirp.

At a light there was a stalled van in our lane, he NEEDED to jump off the line to go around it & be able to get back in the lane after the van. Straight road, dry & not in desperate need of repair.

I was so proud of him!! :lmao:

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

I'll throw in anotehr 2cents of praise... :D

Some really nasty down pours and thunder storms came thru Raleigh yesterday. Had no issues what-so-ever driving home last night. :thmsup: The car tracked well, the steering never felt disconnected, and I was able to turn with out sliding. And they continue to impress me oin the dry, too. Definitely quieter. Lane changes and cornering is uneventful and sure footed. All this and my mielage has been great. Actually it was up a 'lil. :D

Very happy with these tires. :banana:

How are you all getting such great performance out of a 225-50-17 tire? It's 27 pounds and therefore should be less gas mileage. They do not make them in 215-50-17 in the V rated tire.

[hermann]

How are you all getting such great performance out of a 225-50-17 tire? It's 27 pounds and therefore should be less gas mileage. They do not make them in 215-50-17 in the V rated tire.


I just checked the Tire Rack site, and the Bridgestone LS-V is available in 215-50x17.. It costs $141 plus shipping.

[RTexasF]

:deal: :lmao:

[Trip]

Yep Yep :yes: I got them in size 215/50R17

The great thing about these tires is that they don't draw attention to themselves. I hustle around corners, I drive in the rain, I take exits ramps faster than I should :paranoid: :D and the tires just do it. No squealing. No herky jerky antics in the rain. They continue to be quiet and are comfortable.

I've noticed that they are not as susceptible to ambient temp changes like the Michelins were. I check my pressures constantly. On cooler days or if one side of the car is in the sun, the psi is consistent and does not vary by much. The Michs on the other hand would jump up and down by as much as 4 - 5 psi on cooler days or increase by that much on the side that is in direct sunlight.

My mileage is steadily improving and I'm sure that has to do more with my engine breaking in than anything else. I just had my 5K oil change. But the tires haven't been detrimental to mpg for as much as they've increased performance.

They've held true to their consumer reviews on Tire Rack and other places. They're a great match for the Accord if you have no or minor suspension mods. If you slam the suspension and are looking for max performance, an ultra high perf rubber would be a better match. For most others, they replace the weak link in an other wise well sorted suspension system. :thmsup:

[BenjiBoy650]

It's 27 pounds and therefore should be less gas mileage.
There are so many factors at work here, pointing to a weight and saying that's why you should get worse gas mileage isn't really a good way to approach things...there's a ton of other issues.

[RTexasF]

There are so many factors at work here, pointing to a weight and saying that's why you should get worse gas mileage isn't really a good way to approach things...there's a ton of other issues.


Especially when you don't even know what sizes are available :)

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

I just checked the Tire Rack site, and the Bridgestone LS-V is available in 215-50x17.. It costs $141 plus shipping.

Dammit..Discount tire only stocks the H rated one and say there is no V rated for that size... osamanabich .. so they probably weigh 23 pounds like the stock MxM4 do? Perhaps less weight? I can tell you that I also went to a Bridgestone dealer and their Turanzas were like 240 bucks or something and I don't think they had the V rated tire either..even if they did..it's 100 bucks more at the walk-in place!

[Trip]

There are so many factors at work here, pointing to a weight and saying that's why you should get worse gas mileage isn't really a good way to approach things...there's a ton of other issues.

Totally true. While mpg might be affected - wouldn't a heavier tire affect ride and braking more? Now you have more momentum rolling that you have to stop. And rebound on bumps can be hampered cuz now you have more weight to dampen. I would think mpg would be the least of the worries using a heavier tire. :yes:


Dammit..Discount tire only stocks the H rated one and say there is no V rated for that size... osamanabich .. so they probably weigh 23 pounds like the stock MxM4 do? Perhaps less weight? I can tell you that I also went to a Bridgestone dealer and their Turanzas were like 240 bucks or something and I don't think they had the V rated tire either..even if they did..it's 100 bucks more at the walk-in place!

Don't fret! :D They are available in a V rating. Check a few places around town. The Firestone dealer I went to had them in stock. Don't let them push in stock inventory on you. Just went thru that with my brother's Prelude. We don't have the 750s but you'll really like XXX and YYY. No really. C'mon. Try 'em. C'mon! C'mon! C'mon! C'mon!!! :rant: No dammit! :biggrin:

Order them from Tire Rack if you have to. Check your phone book. Even try the Bridgestone website to look for local dealers.

If you don't need them right away, wait a couple of months. Bridgestone runs some really good specials 2 or 3 times a year and they're probably about due. I got my LS-Vs in Feb or March - buy 3 get one free. :thmsup: :thmsup: $240 per tire is ridiculous. They are out there for MUCH cheaper even with mounting and a roadhazzard package. I paid $5xx something for all four with the special and that was everything including free flat repair and balance/rotation for the life of the tire at any Firestone dealer in the country. Even tho I got the 4th tire free, I did have to pay extra for disposal and road hazzard for the 4th one.

[BenjiBoy650]

Totally true. While mpg might be affected - wouldn't a heavier tire affect ride and braking more? Now you have more momentum rolling that you have to stop. And rebound on bumps can be hampered cuz now you have more weight to dampen. I would think mpg would be the least of the worries using a heavier tire. :yes:

A heavier tire in theory should have a detrimental effect on power, braking, ride, handling, and fuel economy, but think about how much of a difference it is. Adding 1 pound of rotating weight is equivalent to adding 3 pounds of stationary weight (like adding bricks into the trunk, lets say). If your new tire is 4 lbs heavier per tire x 4 tires x 3lbs to convert to stationary weight, it's the same as adding 48 pounds in the car. Would putting your 5 year old in the back seat decrease your fuel mileage? Probably not noticeably.

Also have to consider things like rolling resistance, and if you really get into it, I think how far the weight is from the center of the axle also makes a difference. But again...probably not a big deal here when the change is only 4lbs assuming 23 for the MXV4 and 27 for the LS-V.

When I swapped my old Yok A550H (great tire) for the Michelin X-Radials ( :thumbsdow ), I noticed it was harder to get the car moving - more gas and pop the clutch slower. I also noticed a decrease of about 1MPG city and highway, even though I installed a bigger size (195 --> 205, same aspect ratio 65). And the amazing thing is that the new tires also have much less grip. So I guess that leaves the extra weight to explain it all :dunno:

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

A heavier tire in theory should have a detrimental effect on power, braking, ride, handling, and fuel economy, but think about how much of a difference it is. Adding 1 pound of rotating weight is equivalent to adding 3 pounds of stationary weight (like adding bricks into the trunk, lets say). If your new tire is 4 lbs heavier per tire x 4 tires x 3lbs to convert to stationary weight, it's the same as adding 48 pounds in the car. Would putting your 5 year old in the back seat decrease your fuel mileage? Probably not noticeably.

Also have to consider things like rolling resistance, and if you really get into it, I think how far the weight is from the center of the axle also makes a difference. But again...probably not a big deal here when the change is only 4lbs assuming 23 for the MXV4 and 27 for the LS-V.

When I swapped my old Yok A550H (great tire) for the Michelin X-Radials ( :thumbsdow ), I noticed it was harder to get the car moving - more gas and pop the clutch slower. I also noticed a decrease of about 1MPG city and highway, even though I installed a bigger size (195 --> 205, same aspect ratio 65). And the amazing thing is that the new tires also have much less grip. So I guess that leaves the extra weight to explain it all :dunno:

How are Kumho Ecta(?sp?) ASX and Michilin Pilot Exalto A/S better or worse then the Bridgestone Turanza LSV(assuming I can find a dealer that has em..no TIreack I heard too many horror stories on their "stock"). I almost pulled the trigger on the Kuhmo's but the fricking tire hack salesman kept saying my Michilin MxM4 were top rated and better then went to the Michilin website to prove it with sure enough, the MXM4 got like all "9s" and "10s" So here I am trying to find the tires I *know* exist in the Turanza LSV and he is trying to debate the merits of the H rated Turanza's with my stock MxM4s but I am also trying to stymy his talk about crap he knows nothing about like how horrible the MxM4s are. Ohh and the Estas were W rated and not even V rated. They did have some Yokohama Y550s though...not sure if it was 225-50 or 215-50...I guess that is probably the best tire out of the bunch. Who knows man I'm so pissed now thinking about it.

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

A heavier tire in theory should have a detrimental effect on power, braking, ride, handling, and fuel economy, but think about how much of a difference it is. Adding 1 pound of rotating weight is equivalent to adding 3 pounds of stationary weight (like adding bricks into the trunk, lets say). If your new tire is 4 lbs heavier per tire x 4 tires x 3lbs to convert to stationary weight, it's the same as adding 48 pounds in the car. Would putting your 5 year old in the back seat decrease your fuel mileage? Probably not noticeably.

Also have to consider things like rolling resistance, and if you really get into it, I think how far the weight is from the center of the axle also makes a difference. But again...probably not a big deal here when the change is only 4lbs assuming 23 for the MXV4 and 27 for the LS-V.

When I swapped my old Yok A550H (great tire) for the Michelin X-Radials ( :thumbsdow ), I noticed it was harder to get the car moving - more gas and pop the clutch slower. I also noticed a decrease of about 1MPG city and highway, even though I installed a bigger size (195 --> 205, same aspect ratio 65). And the amazing thing is that the new tires also have much less grip. So I guess that leaves the extra weight to explain it all :dunno:


If it never snows where I live and I drive too slow in the hard rain to not care *as much* about how the tire handles in the rain, should I still get the Turanza LSVs or should I go with a more aggressive compound. The fact that the mileage has not decreased is very important to me but is this alone the sole reason not to try a more aggressive rubber or can I still get same gas mileage with a summer only tire or other tire. Benjiboy :wave: Would the Yokohama Y550 be the best fit here? How about Toyo Proxes? Also too, I am still undecided on whether I should stick with the 215-50-17 or try the 225-50-17. Help me decide. What are the pros and cons for the 225-50-17 over the 215-50-17. Help me decide...for what I know the wider tire means less revolutions and therefore cancel out any increase in gas mileage due to more rubber. But wait since the profile is 50 and it stays the same then that means the tire is gonna weigh more and that will inevitably lead to loss in gas mileage. If so, then do the pros outweight the cons?? :banana:

[BenjiBoy650]

You should stick to the stock size and buy the Bridgestone Turanza LS-V. The Yok's are loud.

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

You should stick to the stock size and buy the Bridgestone Turanza LS-V. The Yok's are loud.

I just talked to a Bridgestone dealer and he said it would be 240 per tire!! told him about TR and he said I'll charge you 80 per tire to mount and balance them..whose gonna mount and balance these tires for you!! I won't mention the name only because I do not want any repercussions from them but he starts to go off about how if you have a warranty issue, noone will warranty them..His basic attitude was so what, and wouldn't budge on 240 per tire!! And this is in Katy, Texas and go by the name Parkway.

[Inspector1]

but he starts to go off about how if you have a warranty issue, noone will warranty them.

I would contact Bridgestone corp. office and ask them about their policy on warranty, That guy is full of BS and could get in serious legal trouble with statements like that. He is not Bridgestone corp and could loose his franchise if he refuses to warranty their tires. Tire rack sells aftermarket warranty and any reputable dealer they recommend would cover.

I1 :)

[Trip]

Keep shopping around! Try Firestone dealers in addition to "discount" tire places, too. Are there any tire dealers within an hour or so drive? IMO, it would be worth it to save a few $hundred. :yes:

At the very least, order them from Tire Rack and have your Honda dealer mount them for you. They're $141 each:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Turanza+LS-V&partnum=15VR7TLS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=5

Figure $570 for the tires. Maybe another $100 for shipping. $60 to mount and balance all four. That's $730. The price you were quoted: $240 x 4 = $960. And if that's without tax, add another say, $60. Are there any other fees like tire disposal or nitrogen air? :paranoid: There's no way tires for an Accord should cost $1000!
:jawdrop:

And, if you can wait - Bridgestone is about due for another tire special. It seems 2 or 3 times a year they run a special like "buy 3 get 1 free". When I bought mine back in February they ran this special. I paid $5XX for all 4 with mounting, road hazzard and lifetime rotations & balancing. :thmsup:

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

Keep shopping around! Try Firestone dealers in addition to "discount" tire places, too. Are there any tire dealers within an hour or so drive? IMO, it would be worth it to save a few $hundred. :yes:

At the very least, order them from Tire Rack and have your Honda dealer mount them for you. They're $141 each:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Turanza+LS-V&partnum=15VR7TLS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=5

Figure $570 for the tires. Maybe another $100 for shipping. $60 to mount and balance all four. That's $730. The price you were quoted: $240 x 4 = $960. And if that's without tax, add another say, $60. Are there any other fees like tire disposal or nitrogen air? :paranoid: There's no way tires for an Accord should cost $1000!
:jawdrop:

And, if you can wait - Bridgestone is about due for another tire special. It seems 2 or 3 times a year they run a special like "buy 3 get 1 free". When I bought mine back in February they ran this special. I paid $5XX for all 4 with mounting, road hazzard and lifetime rotations & balancing. :thmsup:

The real question is is there a better tire for me because where I live it *NEVER* snows and coldest it gets is 30 degrees F so I'm wondering if I can go with a more High Performance All-season tread like the Toyo Proxes4 or Summer Toyo T1R. Isn't the weather one of the prime factors in choosing a regular All-Season versus a High Performance All-season?! Hrmpfh.

[Inspector1]

The real question is is there a better tire for me because where I live it *NEVER* snows and coldest it gets is 30 degrees F so I'm wondering if I can go with a more High Performance All-season tread like the Toyo Proxes4 or Summer Toyo T1R. Isn't the weather one of the prime factors in choosing a regular All-Season versus a High Performance All-season?! Hrmpfh. how many miles do you have on your car?? what is your driving style? what is your age?? what color is the car? which direction do you normally drive? do you normally drive in the day or nightime??
Do you carry passengers or excess weight in the trunk?? we need to know these answers before we can decide on what tires you should put on your car.
Also we would love to see pictures of "your car" That way we can help you decide also... Please answer we really need this information to help us decide what you need to do!!!!!!!!!!

I1 :)

[jermy4]

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[princess]

I like having my computer set up so the newest post is at the top, not bottom.... so it's funnier to me when your happy faces point...it's always the wrong way!! :lmao:

[Windchimp]

how many miles do you have on your car?? what is your driving style? what is your age?? what color is the car? which direction do you normally drive? do you normally drive in the day or nightime??
Do you carry passengers or excess weight in the trunk?? we need to know these answers before we can decide on what tires you should put on your car.
Also we would love to see pictures of "your car" That way we can help you decide also... Please answer we really need this information to help us decide what you need to do!!!!!!!!!!

I1 :)

"What...is your favorite colour?" :paranoid:

[2006AccordV6Lvr]

"What...is your favorite colour?" :paranoid:

Ok, I'm gonna try some Toyo Proxes this go round. It's not a done deal but I got a VM from the dealer who can get em in town. I'm getting them for 98 bucks a piece (before any trade-in will be discusssed) plus mounting and shipping (5 to 20 per tire) excluding any hazard warranties etc (other then what the manufacturer provides and yes, I will ride it til the cows come home). These guys I dealt with are really cool. Man this is gonna be a pleasure but I have to make sure they will do the warranty work! Cuz no telling what you will get with mail-order.

[RTexasF]

Borrowed from some one famous on here----and it's time!