From a V6 Oil Change Post:

You could also use the Fumoto drain valve.

I put one on our Odyssey this weekend and now I can change the oil the next time around without having to jack up the vehicle. I can just reach underneath and open the valve.

You can find the valve here:

www.fumotovalve.com

Has anyone put one of these on their V6 Accord? I'm fairly interested it in doing it based on what I hear from others, and also if they needed the adapter as well (site just states for the 6th gen 99 Accord it is needed). I'm still thinking of switching to mobil1 synthetic once my car hits 15,000-20,000km (currently I plan on having the dealership do atleast the first oil change), and this looks like it would make life a lot easier for me to do it on my own once I switch from dino to synth...

Thanks in advance

I have one installed on our '03 Corolla and love it since I change my own oil.

I chose the Fram Sure Drain for the Accord (4 cyl.) because the other required the extension. The Fumoto may have been just fine but I was not crazy about it being so close to the ground.

From the Fumoto application chart:

Honda All models up to 1983 F-105
'98 & on, Accord(4cyl.), Prelude, S2000 require adapter ADP-106) F-106
'96 & on V6 engines require adapter ADL-106 F-106
All other models from '84 & on F-106

hmm...I've looked up the Fram one and although I do like the mechanical nature of the Fumoto, the Fram does include a hose which would make changing the oil on the V6 that much easier (considering how many ppl on this forum and others mention about the difference between where the oil drains from the car and where it actually ends up after it arcs).

It will be a while before I need to change my oil but one of these two do seem to be a good idea...if anyone else has other suggestions (something other than these two) or a warning about using these please post.

If you are worried about where the oil will drain, simply get the Fumoto with the nipple extension on it.

Then you can attach a hose to it and direct the oil flow where you please.

I am still very happy with mine. I have heard some complaints about the Suredrain being slow to drain, but I have not used one personally, so who knows.

The way the drain valve is mounted on ours, there isnow way debris could make it open without utterly destroying the whole oil pan and bottom of the vehicle.

I feel very comfortable with the design and placement.

On the V6, you will need the extension, but it was no problem to mount it.

See pics................

I have heard some complaints about the Suredrain being slow to drain, but I have not used one personally, so who knows.

You & me both! I installed it at the last oil change but haven't actually used it yet.

I prefer the Fumoto but the Accord is quite a bit lower than the Corolla so I chickened out. Also you need to keep track of the 2nd part of the Sure Drain whereas the Fumoto is a single piece.

I prefer the Fumoto but the Accord is quite a bit lower than the Corolla so I chickened out.

You and me both...I have the HFP suspension as well which has settled at around a 1 inch drop maybe a bit lower, so it puts it even more in question if the Fumoto would cause clearance issues (plus on the V6 I would need the extension as well, which from the pic posted above looks fairly long...)

The way the drain valve is mounted on ours, there isnow way debris could make it open without utterly destroying the whole oil pan and bottom of the vehicle.

nclek, is that your V6 Accord of one of the other cars??? Because if thats the V6, then it would be the same way on mine (shouldn't have been any changes from 2004 to 2006)

That photo is from our Odyssey.

I will say for those of you that are concerned about the low ground clearance, the valve does not hang any lower than the bottom of the oil pain.

In fact, the release lever is WAY up out of the way. In order to damage the drain valve, you are going to have fairly significant damage to the oil pain itself, as well as the other lower suspension components on the lower part of the car.

Having done this on the van, I would have put it on our Accord with no concerns.

Digging a thread from the grave here, but I just installed my Fumoto valve and DID NOT use the adapter. Our oil pans are plenty flat to accept just the valve alone. You can't go wrong with this mod. The lever to release it (on mine @ least) is pointing towards the sky so there's hardly any chance of a rock or object turning it. The spring is pretty tight to actually release the lever to drain the oil.

No worries here.

i've heard about these oil quick drain things, for some reason i dont trust them. you're going to have to jack the car up to change the oil filter anyways. whats the big deal with these?

I ended up buying a Fumoto with adapter and nozzle (still waiting for it to get here though). A guy at work bought one for his Subie, and in playing with the valve, there is no way it could accidentally flip to open (you'd lose your oilpan first).

As for why, in my case I had 2 reasons: 1. I don't have to keep pulling the drain plug, as I know someone who ruined the threads on their oilpan easily, and 2. I can connect a hose, put it in the drainpan, then open the value, and not worry about any mess or spillage. Because of how the oil filter is mounted on the V6 as well, I should be able to keep any spillage to an absolute minimum, which was worth it, at least to me.

I have it on all 3 of my cars, and think it is one of the best things that I have ever done, as far as making maintanance easier. I can even change the oil in the Miata without jacking it up.

anyone have a website for these? All this talk has made me want one. :)

www.quickoildrainvalve.com

Here's your part # too: F-106 (valve) and ADP-106 (adapter)
Or, F-106N which the N is for the nipple on the valve.

Sweet! Thanks. These are pretty reasonable too!

I agree that the Fumoto valve is worth it. I have three other vehicles with the Fram Suredrain valve and they do drain very slowly. I love using these drain valves on my vehicles to reduce chances of stripping out threads and to reduce tools needed to change the oil.

Several months back my dad stripped out his threads on his Civic and we had to replace his oil pan. I didn't know about the Fumoto at the time and I sept several hours on the internet before I finally found a Suredrain on EBay for his car. The local stores no longer sell the Suredrain for some reason. A couple of weeks ago, my wife ran over something in the road and it punched a small hole in her pan on her Corolla just above the oil plug. Don't ask, I can't figure it out either. It also scuffed the heck out of the cap of her Suredrain but the valve itself was still in tact. We had to replace her oil pan but was able to reuse the drain valve.

I recently put the Fumoto valve on my V6 Accord and I am very happy with it. Although it does stick out quite a bit due to the adaptor and I also got the valve with the nipple, I am confident that it will not get hit by anything before the oil pan itself is hit. It sits straight back from the oil pan and does not sit any lower than the pan. By adding a hose to the nipple, I can direct the oil directly downward to prevent it from getting all over the undercarrage. I am now thinking about finding out which one of these would fit the transmission plug as well so I can make it easier for drain and fill on it also.

If I'm not mistaken, its the same pitch size as the oil plug. I think its a 14mm x 1.50. Therefore, the F-106 or F-106N would work. I've still got my adapter so I'll see if it'll fit.

www.quickoildrainvalve.com

Here's your part # too: F-106 (valve) and ADP-106 (adapter)
Or, F-106N which the N is for the nipple on the valve.

Same site I bought mine from. Still waiting to receive it though, but its only been 7ish days and I do live in Canada (don't need it until my next change anyways).

If I'm not mistaken, its the same pitch size as the oil plug. I think its a 14mm x 1.50. Therefore, the F-106 or F-106N would work. I've still got my adapter so I'll see if it'll fit.

From what I have seen in both the service manual and the part spec on several honda parts site, the plug for the transmission is 18mm. So it is slightly larger than the oil plug. I also confirmed this when I added the Fumoto plug to the oil pan and did the transmission at the same time. They were different.

I like your idea about a Fumoto on the trans, but the stock plug is magnetic and Fumoto is not.:thumbsdow The way these tranny's are, they need all the help they can get. I put a little bit bigger tranny filter on (see sig) so I could add some extra fluid.

I tell you, I just don't get a "warm" feeling on installing those drains. Just seems way to easy for them to somehow open and lose all your oil. I guess if some folks want to change their oil alot, it may be worth it. However, I use M1 EP and did a couple of UOA's on it and I can comfortably get up to 12.5K miles on one OCI. By doing that, I've eliminated a lot of 3-4K OCI's. Even with that drain, it's still pretty tight under there not to have to jack up the car some. With transmission dumps, jacking up the passenger side helps drain out the ATF since the drain is located on the drivers side.

I can speak from my experience with the Odyssey and my other cars.

I looked at this for a LONG time, and have been running it for 2 years on the van. I would not risk damage to the engine by this thing coming open. But having used it and looking at it for a long time before putting it on, I won't be without one. My miata is a bear to change the oil on without it, but with it, it is easy to do. You have to hold one in your hand to understand how it is pretty much impossible for it to open accidentally.

I agree. My Ranger has over 330K on it and the suredrain has been on it for at least 200K of that with no problems. The Fumoto web site talks about how they have sold over a million of these and have had no problems reported about them.

With transmission dumps, jacking up the passenger side helps drain out the ATF since the drain is located on the drivers side.

Huh? Jacking up the passenger side on a 7gen to drain out the fluid won't work. The plug screws in towards the driver's side, therefore it drains when jacked up on the driver's side.

With transmission dumps, jacking up the passenger side helps drain out the ATF since the drain is located on the drivers side.

Huh? Jacking up the passenger side on a 7gen to drain out the fluid won't work. The plug screws in towards the driver's side, therefore it drains when jacked up on the driver's side.

I'm sorry but I think I would have to agree more with Schmoe on this one. Although I don't jack up my car to drain the oil or trans since I got a drain pain short enough to fit under the car while on the ground and I myself am small enough to fit under the nose to loosen these bolts. But in any case, if only the drivers side is raised and not the passenger, to me this would not allow the transmission to drain fully since the plug is facing the drivers side of the car and therefore would be facing upward instead of flat or downward.

Think of it this way. If you took a full 20 oz bottle of soda and layed it flat on its side and opened the top you would have most of it drain out but not all. Take another full bottle and hold the opened end upward by about 10-20 degrees and open the top. You would have even less drain out than when it was flat on it's side. Now take that same bottle and lay it flat again and then raise the bottom end of it about 10-20 degrees and open it. You will all but completely empty the bottle.

Although I understand that you state to raise the drivers side due to ease of getting under the car to drain it. However, Schmoe's method would actually ensure a more complete drain and I think this is why he mentioned it as so. Personally I think it would be best to raise both sides equally for draining if it needs to be raised.

Exactly. I was trying to mention the "tilting" method, much akin to the soda bottle example. I know it's not much, but it does help get some more fluid out and I, like others, feel that changing out the ATF regularly may help these sensitive transmissions.

I have to agree with Schmoe on the drain valves. I just don't get a warm & fuzzy with these. I don't understand what problem they are solving for me. It seems as if they are a solution in search of a problem. Also, they add another item that has the possibility of failing. I realize that it is a remote possibility, but with possible dire consequences. A vehicle has enough of those already.

The reason behind the driver's side only going up on an ATF change is to get the most out. Your putting the drain hole @ a 10-20 degree upward angle and letting gravity do the rest (pulling it out).

Now, my method would not work if Honda put the drain tube inside the tranny @ an upward angle (which I doubt) defeating my way. Any of you have a pic of the inside of the tranny showing the drain tube route? I just know that when I drained mine the last time that it took almost 3.6 qts. to get a good level. Most on here have said 3.2 qts. and I'm assuming thats with the car on the ground.

I just installed a Fumoto valve on the wife's car yesterday.F-106 is the part#. I wouldn't do it unless I was totally sure about it because ITS THE WIFES CAR.

:D best $22 I've spent on the car.

It barely sits a hair lower than the drain pan, and there plenty of other stuff lower than that.

I should also say that I didn't need the adaptor part, and I ordered mine from lubricationspecialist.com, and it arrived next day via UPS.

I had this on my TSX and still do on the wifes Accord. Fits and works just fine on lowered cars and has never leaked. The I-4's dont need the extention.

the drain plug has never been an issue for me. the filter, however...:furious:

Bringing up an old thread here...

I think I'll be ordering a couple of these this weekend for both my cars.

Anyone encountered new probs or new perspectives on the Fumoto Valve?

Two oil changes and 20K miles later. Still no problems to report. Only issue is what was reported earlier by others and myself. Slow drain times. I usually turn the valve to start the drain, change the filter, then take about a 10-15 min. break. By that time it's pretty close to empty. Still haven't picked one up for the Trans. though. :lmao:

Has anyone installed the Fumoto Drain Valve on their 2008 V6 Sedan?
if so is the extension required to clear the oil pan? I was looking to get F106 with the nipple but I'm not sure if I need F106 also with the adaptor to clear the oil pan.

Has anyone installed the Fumoto Drain Valve on their 2008 V6 Sedan?
if so is the extension required to clear the oil pan? I was looking to get F106 with the nipple but I'm not sure if I need F106 also with the adaptor to clear the oil pan.

Another skeptic here. I'll continue doing it the 'safe' way until age prevents that. At that point I'd use something like that instead of having to rely on a shop, but hope to be decades away from it. Good day.

Has anyone installed the Fumoto Drain Valve on their 2008 V6 Sedan?
if so is the extension required to clear the oil pan? I was looking to get F106 with the nipple but I'm not sure if I need F106 also with the adaptor to clear the oil pan.

Got one on my 2009 V6 Sedan and you need the extension. Nice changing the oil without the use of any tools. I have the fumoto valve on all my vehicles with zero complaints. One has been on my truck for over 100,000 miles and I have never had an issue.

-Wardster

Fumotos are great! :thmsup:

I have them on every vehicle in my sig and wouldn't be without one. The no-mess control of every last drop of oil is excellent...I could even change the oil in my diesel dressed up in a business suit without getting dirty (mostly due to the top-mounted filter location). :D

Has anyone installed the Fumoto Drain Valve on their 2008 V6 Sedan?
if so is the extension required to clear the oil pan? I was looking to get F106 with the nipple but I'm not sure if I need F106 also with the adaptor to clear the oil pan.

Not too sure about 2008 V6, but a 2008 i4 don't need the extension.

Fumotos are great! :thmsup:

I have them on every vehicle in my sig and wouldn't be without one. The no-mess control of every last drop of oil is excellent...I could even change the oil in my diesel dressed up in a business suit without getting dirty (mostly due to the top-mounted filter location). :D

Agreed. I wouldn't have had it on my truck for the past 4 years if I didn't think it was safe. The truck goes over logs, rocks, and various other desert obstacles and I never worry about it accidentally opening. The last thing I want is to dump 14 qts of synthetic oil all over the ground and seize up a motor that costs significantly more than the motor in the Accord.

2007 accord i4 which parts do i need.adapter or not??