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RDG40
05-25-2006, 05:51 PM
Greetings ! :wave: I love this forum....Lots of great information helped me choose the Accord over a Camry. I finally broke down and traded my 1999 Taurus for an 06 Accord SE. (What a difference ! ..Ford really does Suck). I love the quiet ride and handling compared to the old ford.
Living in Ontario, the dealer tried to sell me a rust proffing package. I plan on keeping the car for several years (Still driving my 95 Camry) so I know I will need some rust proffing. Does anyone have any experience with the Electronic Corrosion Modules. This is what the dealer tried to sell me and he said Honda stands behind it. I posted the link below. If anyone knows anything about this I would appreicate any information.

http://www.capfinalcoat.com/

Barry45RPM
05-26-2006, 07:26 AM
Your car was built with all the "rustproofing" in needs. Most, if not all of the "finance office add-ons" is little more than extra profit on a new car. If the dealer has given you very aggressive pricing on the car, the finance office crap, including the profit on the auto loan and "trunk money" will be the only place the dealership will make money on the sale of your vehicle. (Excluding and financial rewards the dealership receives for meeting/exceeding sales quotas.)

The F&I Office ("finance & insurance office") is where all of your hard won pricing on your new car can be lost in one softly spoken "suggestion" by the F&I guy. He's NOT there to help you "sign & drive", he's there to sell you a car load of expensive, overpriced crap. The only way for the dealership management to know if he's doing his job is to look and see if new cars are going out "packed". Since he has to prepare and have you sign all the documents for you to actually own your new car, he is merely completing the sales transaction for the dealership. If that's ALL he does, he isn't a good F&I guy.

Long story short: Don't buy anything in the F&I office except a Honda Care Warranty IF the price is very similar to what you can get it for from another Honda Dealership on line. (Also see what auto loan interest rate you get approved for on line & get the loan papers sent to your house before you see the F&I guy so you can make him beat the rate!) Spoilers, Pin Striping, Music Link, etc. should all be negotiated on the sales floor & be part of the price of the car.

Enjoy your car!

Conundrum
05-26-2006, 07:50 AM
I paid for it just for the peace of mind...but rather than let the F&I guy bring it up I took it up with the salesman...that way I could negotiate the overall price down, as they knew what their profit margin was going to be anyways (ended up getting about 2K off my EX in the end...might have been able to get more but I'd been to a few dealerships and was happy with what I ended up paying).

The one that is absolutely useless is paint protection...as all they do is wax the car for you.

jintegra
05-26-2006, 08:05 AM
The Final Coat® Electronic Corrosion Module draws a small amount of DC
energy from the vehicle’s battery and directs it through a microprocessor which
converts this energy into an AC current.
Through patented state of the art technology built
into the Corrosion Module, a pulse amplifier
generates a repetitive “pulse” surface current
which is distributed on to conducting body panels
of the vehicle to help inhibit the corrosion process.
Being energy efficient, the Final Coat® Corrosion
Module is built with “Smart Circuit” technology to
insure that when the battery voltage is low, you are
not put into a “no-start” situation.
Externally fused to protect the unit from power surges, the Final Coat®
Corrosion Module has been tested to exacting standards by world renowned
certified testing laboratories. :dunno:

This is the first time I've ever heard of this technology. Maybe a material science or chemical engineer can comment on whether it is possible. I'm just wondering if this would interfere with other electronics in the car, e.g radio reception etc.

For myself, I didn't get any of the dealer rustproofing packages, but instead got my mechanic to spary the white/beige coating for about $300 . Cheaper, for essentially the same protection.

Conundrum
05-26-2006, 08:24 AM
:dunno:

This is the first time I've ever heard of this technology. Maybe a material science or chemical engineer can comment on whether it is possible. I'm just wondering if this would interfere with other electronics in the car, e.g radio reception etc.

For myself, I didn't get any of the dealer rustproofing packages, but instead got my mechanic to spary the white/beige coating for about $300 . Cheaper, for essentially the same protection.

My Dad has one in his 2004 Grand Am. Basically from what I understand (I'm not an engineer) the reason metal rusts is that it looses electrons causing oxidation. By charging the car, in theory you are providing an abundance of electrons, therefore it is never deficient. :dunno:

As to how good it works in reality I honestly don't know...personally I'm skeptical of it, and my Dad's Grand Am is new so rust wouldn't form for years even if completely untreated. It also hasn't had any issues with the radio or other electronics, so my guess most other cars would be the same. The benefit of getting this electronic system though is if it does work, it can just be transferred from one car to another, whereas traditional undercoat obviously cannot.

john_ertw
05-26-2006, 01:58 PM
I think I read something about this before saying that it is not that beneficial for a car because vehicles are not always submerged in water. I think ships are able to benefit from this technology though. I would google it to get more info on the technology (not from the manufacturer).

CA05LXDriver
05-26-2006, 02:12 PM
I always tell them I worked at an Acura dealer before, and they NEVER try to sell me that snake-oil anymore :thmsup: . :lmao:

honda761
05-26-2006, 02:42 PM
My F and I lady didnt even try to sell me one thing. Perhaps because I only got a 3 year lease?