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Accordin2B

02-18-2004, 09:00 PM

I just had a rear wing spoiler installed and I noticed when I open the trunk it doesn't pop open like before. I'm wondering is this normal or did the dealership possibly forget to re-install some springs or something. I know the spoiler is heavy and places more weight on the trunk which would keep it from popping open like it did before. I guess what I need is to find out from those of you with spoilers how your trunk opens when you push the button..does it open up fully or just release and then you have to lift it yourself??

Sorry for rambling!

princess

02-18-2004, 09:42 PM

Ours opens a few inches then you lift it up. Which we like because the wind is much less likely to slam too far up! The draw back is I have to remember to open it by touching the plate....I HATE finger prints!!

Inspector1

02-19-2004, 08:13 AM

You could check the springs and see if they still have color tags for your spoiler** Low-rise and Wing have diff color coded springs ** check install instructions in 04 cat.
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=23

When I installed the spoiler on my 02 I did change the springs and it pops up about 6 inches. The original springs only opened deck lid about a inch without spoiler and wouldn't unlatch with spoiler...

Hope this helps
I1:)

princess

02-19-2004, 08:36 AM

Several years back we added the spoiler to the ol' '86. We couldn't get the one for the sedan & put one on for a coiupe or prelude..... it's springs were way more than our trunk needed & you sure knew it when you popped the trunk! The lid would fly all the way up!! SLAM!!:(

Accordin2B

02-19-2004, 07:07 PM

Thank you all so much for your replies. I never would have thought anything other than the spoiler was heavy, but I ran across something last night mentioning springs so thought I would ask you folks about it. I'm gonna check out those instructions and go look for those springs. Mine doesnt pop open at all now, before it lifter about half way or so by itself.

Thanks again!!!

BenjiBoy650

02-19-2004, 10:00 PM

Can the spoiler springs be purchased alone? I should just put some spoiler springs on my trunk without a spoiler so it'll just fly open.

Inspector1

02-20-2004, 06:34 AM

You want something like this.................

http://www.the-eviltwin.co.uk/

click viewhighlights --- clip one....

I1:D

princess

02-20-2004, 08:17 AM

Heeheee heee LOL!!:D

jag

02-20-2004, 04:09 PM

I have tackled the installation of the original Honda factory spoiler on my ’00 with the torsion springs provided in the kit. A nerve wrecking experience but rewarding. Since one has more time to rustproof freshly drilled holes and make sure the shavings do not end up trapped inside causing premature corrosion, it’s a job done well. To boot, it cost $300 less than what the dealer asked for. Anyways, the trunk opens only a few inches. I think it’s desirable considering the stress damage due to the counter- pressure it would exert if it flew past the designed stop point.
jag

BenjiBoy650

02-20-2004, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Inspector1
You want something like this.................

http://www.the-eviltwin.co.uk/

click viewhighlights --- clip one....

I1:D

THATS IT!! I WANT THAT!! Could ya imagine...springs like that on my trunk with a remote release? WOW! Whenever I saw some jackass near the trunk I could just go *POP* hahahahaha where can I get one?!

entropy2002

03-04-2004, 03:21 PM

Hi Jag,
I've been toying with the idea of putting a spoiler on my new Accord - what part was nerve wracking? Was any of it difficult? were the springs difficult to change?

Thanks,

jag

03-06-2004, 02:27 PM

Well…when one decides to drill holes in a brand spanking new vehicle (I had it for only 30 days then) all kinds of thoughts cross one’s mind. First, what if the bit slips and decides to travel across the lid? I took all kinds of precautions and taped the adjacent area with couple of layers of masking tape just in case. Then I scraped the paint right to the bare metal and even deeper to give the drill bit a firm start-an area of 1/8” only. I drilled at low RPMs and exerted minimum pressure possible as not to create a dent and crack the paint finish. Refrain from drinking beer a good couple of days prior to this event ;) The kit comes with a template so it's easier to do the lay out. The harness connects right into the same connector where the center back window brake light is connected. Unplug the existing light. When you drill the hole to feed the harness through the lid, tape a wad of cotton from the inside over the area you drilling to catch the metal shavings. It will prevent them from being trapped inside the lid and promote rust. Also take some time and paint the freshly drilled holes with Tremclad rust paint even though they supply a rubber grommet for it. I bought a special tool for the spring installation. It makes this job a snap but for the cost of the tool for one time use you may consider asking Honda to install the springs for you. It’s a 10 min job max. $10-$15?

Good luck,
jag
;)

entropy2002

03-06-2004, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the information, Jag. How much did the spring tool cost? Would it have been difficult without the tool?

Regards,
Entropy2002 :)

jag

03-06-2004, 06:23 PM

It cost me 15 bucks. Considering the convenience and safety issue, it was well worth it.

jag

rhard49

07-06-2004, 04:45 AM

I just picked up my 04 Coupe EX 6 Speed and had the spoiler put on when I bought it. I don't think they put the heavier duty springs in because when you pop the trunk it doesn't move just clicks and you need to open it by hand. Also if you hold it anywhere but all the way open it slams shut, Dealers suck.

princess

07-06-2004, 07:08 AM

Mine HAS the heavy springs & when you "pop" the trunk it opens about 1-2 inches is all. Yes, you have to open it the rest of the way. Shutting is firm, but I don't slam it.

Welcome to the bunch here, rhard49. Hope you find the people & info useful here.:)

BenjiBoy650

07-06-2004, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by rhard49
I just picked up my 04 Coupe EX 6 Speed and had the spoiler put on when I bought it. I don't think they put the heavier duty springs in because when you pop the trunk it doesn't move just clicks and you need to open it by hand. Also if you hold it anywhere but all the way open it slams shut, Dealers suck.

Go back and ask them to install the springs. However I think they might have installed the springs on your car. My trunk has no spoiler and it doesn't always pop open, and it will always slam shut. It could be a latch alignment issue, sealing too good and doesn't want to open.

tazcliff

05-11-2005, 09:11 PM

anysia

05-12-2005, 04:50 AM

On my 05 I4 coupe with no spoiler the trunk just lifts enough to unlock it, if you looked at it you would think its closed. I'm installing a factory spoiler next week, I wiil let you know what change if any in the way it opens.

same here on my 04 coupe. it pops, but doesn't open. i don't have a spoiler. i *think* it used to pop open a few inches, but ever since the repairs from my accident, it has never popped open like that. sometimes i even have to hit the button on my key twice..... :bawl:

moral of the story? not sure if it is supposed to pop open even without the spoiler. :dunno:

tazcliff

05-14-2005, 02:10 PM

one more thing to add in reading the spoiler install directions there are 2 positions (notches)for the trunk springs if the 1st one it too weak try the second position.

vlodnak69

05-16-2005, 01:42 PM

rookie

05-24-2005, 08:49 PM

I just ran into this 2 days ago as I was looking for teh spoiler myself... :)

The OEM spoiler installation instructions:

4 door (http://www.handa-accessories.com/accord/03-4drwing.pdf)

2 door (http://www.handa-accessories.com/accord/03-2drwing.pdf)

The significance being that both OEM kits seem to come with springs? They are too pricey me thinks, I might go with spoilerdepot instead...

The trunk spring remover/reinstaller tool can also be found here:

http://www.handa-accessories.com/accext03.html

Rick.

05-25-2005, 03:12 PM

I had the dealer install an OEM spoiler on my '03 Accord EX-L and I have to report that I am happy with their work. The lid pops up about 4'' or so and remains open at that point. For all who had the dealer install the spoiler and have had problems...remember that you have a 3 year warranty on parts and labour...if you had the work done at time of purchase! :naughty:

tazcliff

05-25-2005, 09:29 PM

Im still waiting for mine to be painted, I got an oe honda one for $140 on ebay, but it was the wrong color (wich I knew), its getting painted by a friend @ a body shop for free so I saved about $235

rookie

05-26-2005, 05:54 AM

Im still waiting for mine to be painted, I got an oe honda one for $140 on ebay, but it was the wrong color (wich I knew), its getting painted by a friend @ a body shop for free so I saved about $235

That's a great price :)

I'll be getting mone off Spoilerdepot. Already bought from them before, the quality is great. You can get the spoiler (both OEM styles) for about $200 painted, shipped. IMHO the OEM Honda spoiler is a rip off.

tazcliff

06-07-2005, 09:41 PM

Sorry This took a while. here is a pic of one of the trunk springs installed in position 1, before installing the spoiler my trunk hardly opend at all, after installe & the new springs it now pops open about 4-5 inches. weather you have a spoiler or not you can reposition the spring to positon 2 for a little more tention. by the way my oe springs are grey and the new ones are black with a red or yellow mark.

F6Hawk

07-21-2005, 04:34 PM

Tazcliff, if you still have the original springs, would you mind measuring their thickness, as well as the thickness of the new springs, and posting it here, please?

The dual position makes me realize that an idea I had might just work.... if one were to install the spoiler, then add a spacer under the short arm of the trunk spring, it would put more tension on the arm, thus adding more lift to the trunk. Not sure if it would be enough to boost a spoiler up, but it would certainly make things better for those with no spoiler but a weak-opening trunk!

Thanks for your time measuring, if you have it.