robpaul2
09-27-2006, 07:50 AM
Just found this online. A fuel cell Honda for the US in 08! :banana:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14999781/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14999781/
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View Full Version : The Look of Things to Come! robpaul2 09-27-2006, 07:50 AM Just found this online. A fuel cell Honda for the US in 08! :banana: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14999781/ DuckMuck 09-27-2006, 07:58 AM How viable do you think the technology will be? As a consumer, do you think you will jump on the new hydrogen fuel cell vehicles when they are released? When I was shopping for my new car, one of cars that I considered was the hybrid Civic vs. the Accord Coupe...the Accord Coupe was heavily discounted, but the hybrid Civic was not...I was really interested in the fuel savings of the hybrid car, but after I did some math and read some articles online, I thought buying a comfortable, fuel-efficient full gas engine was better than going the gas/electric hybrid route...the thought of the battery (that is expensive to replace) with an 8 year warranty also worried me...the alternative fuel vehicles I think are great, and it is a move in the right direction, but as a consumer, speaking for myself, I feel a little relunctant to invest my money in it in terms of a vehicle for my own personal use... robpaul2 09-27-2006, 08:17 AM It all depends on costs and warranty of course. Fuel cells are not that new but the cost has been the issue. If they can bring these within the Hybrid area, I'm sure they will sell just as well. It is nice to see Honda taking this step instead of just sitting on current technology. They will also have to really stand behind these in terms of warranty since it will be so new and different. Time will tell but it is a great leap in the right direction. greg-ster 09-27-2006, 08:17 AM Finally, Honda is focusing on aesthetics! The car looks hot! If this is an indication of what the Accord will look like... :thmsup: SSMV6 09-27-2006, 09:31 AM Wow! Look at the windshield's angle! I swear they're getting flatter by the generation! mwmcginn 09-27-2006, 10:15 AM Kinda related, my concern with fuel cells was that there is no place to get hydrogen, and it isnt easy to make either, or should I say cost effective. I just read a story in popular mechanics (thank you bus ride to work) that detailed the next generation of nuke power plants. The Ability for these plants to create the power and heat to cost effectively produce hydrogen sounds pretty amazing. They also had a point/counter point part where one of the founders of greenpeace endorsed the next generation of nuke power mainly because of this hydrogen production ability. Ive always heard that hydrogen is the power of the future, and it always will be. Now it sounds like we are getting a few steps closer to turning that into a reality. faderrific 09-27-2006, 10:18 AM Finally, Honda is focusing on aesthetics! The car looks hot! If this is an indication of what the Accord will look like... :thmsup: To each, their own. Personally I think it looks like crap, reminds me of a Prius or Echo. greg-ster 09-27-2006, 10:32 AM To each, their own. Personally I think it looks like crap, reminds me of a Prius or Echo. Which will make everyone want to buy one :thmsup: robpaul2 09-27-2006, 10:47 AM I could probably do without the Taurus/Sable headlight assembly but otherwise I think it looks great! chanke4252 09-27-2006, 12:19 PM I wish they would steer away from the uber-futuristic style that they are starting towards. The civic is ok but comes pretty close to too futuristic looking, but this is kind of rediculous. If they would redo the front-end so that it didnt look like a twinky with 4 wheels, I might be interested, but I doubt it comes with a manual so I doubt it. BenjiBoy650 09-27-2006, 02:41 PM If you look at the evidence, it's fairly evident that the hydrogen economy will not stand up, just like ethanol. The main sources of hydrogen are: coal, oil and CH4 (methane natural gas). You then need to put massive amounts of energy into it to produce pure hydrogen, and then put in more energy to store and transport this highly explosive gas, when in the end you could have just burned the CH4 in the car to begin with and gotten a lot more energy. And water is not a viable source for hydrogen - you create water in the process of making the fuel cell car run. That means you took something, put energy in to break it into little pieces, then put it back together again. And as we know, no process is 100% efficient so in each step you lose tons of energy The car looks pretty sick though :thmsup: Just my 2 cents :) |