|09-20-2012 01:40 PM|
The front sway bar is much smaller. Ouch.
No more double wishbone suspension in the front. Combined with the smaller sway bar this is going to kill handling. Did they need the extra space?
Smaller gas tank.
Now even the manual transmission version gets stuck with VCM, which is going to adversely impact the responsiveness of the engine. I expect they did that to get the new 18/28 highway mileage rating for the MT, but I don't think it is worth the tradeoff. I regularly get 28-29 MPG on the highway in my 2012 anyway.
Only supposed positive is the increase from 271 to 278 horsepower -- but I'm not sure how they are supposed to have achieved that. If all it amounts to is tuning the engine differently, that's something we can do with the existing J35Z3.
The only net positive I see is that since they changed so little, it will increase the availability of application-specific aftermarket parts. And any aftermarket turbo or supercharger should fit both.
Does anybody have any information on where the extra 7hp is supposed to come from? Did they upgrade the exhaust or the airbox? Use higher flow cats?
|09-17-2012 09:21 PM|
SAY GOOD BYE TO DOUBLE WISH BONE.
SAY GOOD BYE TO ACTUAL 5 FORWARD GEAR AUTO TRANSMISSIONS.
SAY GOOD BTE TO 190HP FROM 2.5L MOTOR.
....More to come!
|09-17-2012 12:45 PM|
|09-16-2012 01:21 PM|
|starsfaninco||Great news. Thanks for the info. 2013 Crosstour in the immediate future, just waiting for it to be released.|
|09-16-2012 12:36 PM|
Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System With Voice Recognition And FM Traffic
The Accord’s available Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System uses GPS technology and a fast new 60-GB hard-drive based (HDD) system to provide drivers with turn-by-turn guidance to their chosen destination. The system adds FM traffic data for 2013 and provides coverage in many large metropolitan areas within the U.S., allowing the driver to choose faster, less congested routes. Unlike some other in-car traffic data systems, FM Traffic has no recurring subscription fee. Faster, more capable and easier to use than any previous-generation Honda system, the Accord’s new system is similar to current Odyssey and Pilot navigation systems.
Accord’s navigation features an 8-inch (diagonal) high-resolution WVGA (800x480 pixel) backlit color display that takes the place of the lower-resolution i-MID display in non-navigation models. The system can be controlled by voice, or with a convenient interface dial. The new technology allows the voice-activation system to respond to more casual command phrases that require less user familiarization, in addition to the previous capability of being able to understand spoken city and street names. For example, a voice request for "Radio 98.3 FM" can now be spoken in approximately a dozen different ways ranging from "change the radio station to 98.3" to "98.3 FM." This logic applies to audio functionality of the audio/information screen. The navigation system can also be controlled by voice with conventional navigation commands like, "Find nearest Chinese restaurant" or "find nearest ATM."
The audio system is automatically muted when the "Talk" button is pressed. The voice-recognition technology allows the driver to simply speak city and street names aloud, and the system responds by displaying the matches available in the database. Points of interest on the map (such as restaurants or grocery stores) can be displayed with brand logo icons or you can have the system provide turn-by-turn navigation – all by voice command. The massive point-of-interest (POI) database includes telephone numbers, which can be dialed by using the Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink® system when the driver's cellular telephone is connected to the system.
The Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System uses Global Positioning Satellites (GPS) in combination with detailed information from the vehicle's mapping system to pinpoint the vehicle's location and to provide a host of useful mapping and route guidance features. The antenna can utilize up to 12 satellites from a network of 24 global positioning satellites. If the antenna is obstructed by a tunnel, a parking garage or a tall building, an internal gyroscopic system and a speed sensor track the location of the vehicle so that the map information remains current and reliable. The vehicle clock is independently controlled by GPS data, so when time zones are crossed while driving, the clock will automatically set itself to the current time.
A digital version of the Zagat Survey® restaurant guide provides detailed information and reviews on select restaurants in the database. The reviews can be read on-screen or spoken over the audio system by a synthesized voice.
The navigation system can also suggest scenic routes based on the National Scenic Byways and All-American Roads guide. The National Scenic Byways Program is part of the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration. The program is a grassroots collaborative effort established to help recognize, preserve and enhance selected roads throughout the United States. Since 1992, the National Scenic Byways Program has funded 2,832 projects for state and nationally designated byway routes in 50 states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. The U.S. Secretary of Transportation recognizes certain roads as All-American Roads or National Scenic Byways based on one or more archeological, cultural, historic, natural, recreational and scenic qualities. Scenic-route information for 126 routes can be accessed from inside the "Information" menu and is displayed on the map as a green-and-red segmented line.
|09-16-2012 11:17 AM|
Has anyone heard if the navigation system will have traffic updates? My 2008 doesn't and with Denver traffic, I have to use the iphone garmin app to route me around it. Kinda makes me wonder why I bothered with integrated navi to begin with other than I like a clean look. Hoping the new navi does have it, but just haven't seen any real confirmation.
|09-04-2012 06:55 PM|
"In almost all other countries except, 'nobody-is-smarter-than-us,' USA, they are rear fogs."
But noooo.. not in the US. Not even parking lights.
|09-04-2012 05:27 PM|
|TheGandalf||The coupe had the turn side in the mirrors too. Only lower trims wont get them.|
|09-04-2012 02:25 PM|
|Neji||Weird. The sedan looks like it has turn signals on the side view mirrors but it is very obvious that the coupe does not. IMO the accord has been missing this for awhile.|
|08-26-2012 09:51 PM|
|poorboyaccord||why does it have reflectors on the rear bumper?|
|08-24-2012 10:30 PM|
|08-24-2012 10:26 PM|
|08-24-2012 02:52 PM|
People do buy expensive cars with conservative looks all the time, look at the entry-level luxury sedan market. But since the bulk of the midsize sedan market is not $37,000 models but below $30k, many won't opt for some of the highest features anyway. The sales mix of the V6/turbo 4 (where applicable) models is pretty slim anyway, from what I recall.
Given the competitive nature of the segment and all the newly redesigned models, the looks of the new Accord will matter less than will the efficiency, refinement, comfort/handling balance, and (in particular) reliability/quality.
|08-24-2012 05:51 AM|
Not sure what you mean by DBW , I guess your talking active suspension were it can adjust firmness dynamically.
Edit: after looking at vid and some pics posted, they definitely redesigned the front suspension, its hard to say from pics but things that stand out .
Lower A arm looks changed ,back mount. no swaybar link mount (looks like it going to top either upper A arm or shock . steering linkage change and I don't see the yoke for shock bottom mount like all previous gen's .
|08-24-2012 05:27 AM|
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