2013 Accord vs 2014 Mazda 6

[AccordinSoCal]

Originally Posted by watchdoc

Stopped by the Mazda dealer yesterday and crawled around a 2014 Touring. Leather felt nice. Interior feels smaller and the seats were snug. Has nowhere near the rear leg or headroom of the Accord. The split rear folding seats were nice as were the 19" wheels.

Overall it had a nice feel but certainly no better than the Accord and definitely a smaller car inside. It would need to be fast and handle circles around the Accord to be worthwhile.

Yeah, I had the same feelings towards the 6. The Accord just has so much space. I'm not sure if itll be any faster than the Accord though..... here's a goos source of info....

http://forum.mazda6club.com/mazda-6-...mazda6-92.html

[mdreibelbis]

Methinks many of you are missing the point. Mazda isn't really trying to be another Accord/Altima/Camry et al., they are going for the mid size sedan buying consumer who wants a sportier look and feel. The whole "zoom zoom" marketing campaign speaks to that.

Sure - if you want a great family sedan you can't go wrong with a Honda or Nissan or Toyota - but if you want a sedan with "zoom zoom" then look over here at this Mazda.

That's the reason why I bought my 2008 Mazda 6 over the bloated 8th gen Accord.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by mdreibelbis

Methinks many of you are missing the point. Mazda isn't really trying to be another Accord/Altima/Camry et al., they are going for the mid size sedan buying consumer who wants a sportier look and feel. The whole "zoom zoom" marketing campaign speaks to that.

Sure - if you want a great family sedan you can't go wrong with a Honda or Nissan or Toyota - but if you want a sedan with "zoom zoom" then look over here at this Mazda.

That's the reason why I bought my 2008 Mazda 6 over the bloated 8th gen Accord.

Perchance I could have "zoom zoom" and a useable back seat at the same time? They do not have to be mutually exclusive.

I love the new Fusion but like the Sonata/Malibu is crippled by cramped rear quarters. It's short side window syndrome is not as bad as the Lacrosse but like the Lacross, I guarantee a head bang when trying to articulate yourself into the back seat (happened to me on my Lacrosse Test drive).

I agree that Mazda marches to the beat of a different drummer which is laudable but if you are going to claim to be in the midsize category and claim to have seating for 5, asking for adequate rear room should not preclude their "zoom zoom" sporty look and feel. The room is adequate which is adequate to go to dinner but inadequate for road trips.

We don't expect to ever use the rear seat in a 911, the same can not be said for families who are shopping Mazda for a sedan. This is an issue for me because my family sedan is used for that: Family trips for five. Driving to work everyday, the rear quarter matters not. That is really a job for a Boxter/Miata.

[AccordinSoCal]

Americans for some reason just don't like the Mazda 6....

The Gen 1 was a great car, but Americans thought it was too small.

For Gen 2, Mazda gave americans what they wanted and made it bigger. It didnt sell as expected.

Now, for Gen 3 it seems they have made it smaller from the inside again, hopefully this one will be accepted and will also sell well. The CX5 seems to be doing pretty good with a cheaper interior.

[Ragnrok23]

Originally Posted by AccordinSoCal

Americans for some reason just don't like the Mazda 6....

The Gen 1 was a great car, but Americans thought it was too small.

For Gen 2, Mazda gave americans what they wanted and made it bigger. It didnt sell as expected.

Now, for Gen 3 it seems they have made it smaller from the inside again, hopefully this one will be accepted and will also sell well. The CX5 seems to be doing pretty good with a cheaper interior.

It's funny, in 2003 I was dead set on getting a Mazda 6 (they were brand new) I saw the commercial for it an loved the look! I took a test drive and still really liked it

I just decided to stop at a Honda dealership on the way home to see an accord, from the second I sat in it, I knew it was the car for me!

[ManMachine]

I think this generation of Mazda6 will do much better:
- Much better design, exterior (aggressive) and interior (clean and simple)
- Class leading fuel efficiency
- Performance seems on par with the class leaders
- Probably one of the best handling cars in its class
- Close enough size: due to its more coupe like shape (like Sonata), interior room wise it's slightly smaller than the Accord - it's perfectly fine for me (5'10"), and the rear passenger leg room is actually longer.
- Good set of features.
- Overall Mazda reliability from the last couple of years seem to be close to Honda and Toyota now.

Mazda6 doesn't need to sell the numbers of Accord or Camry to be successful. Same with its small SUV CX-5.

I'm glad that there's a competitive offering like this.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by ManMachine

glad that there's a competitive offering like this.

Me too. Featureless Honda threw down the gauntlet with the 13 Accord re design. If left up to them, we would not have a rear camera, bluetooth streaming, or keyless start on some models. My 12 MDX does not have keyless available on ANY model. Competition forces companies like Honda kicking and screaming into the 21st century to step up.

Honda deserves tremendous credit for making the Accord crash structure to perform well in the small overlap crash test long before being forced by the competition.

They were first along with Volvo.

If you have not seen this, video below. This is very impressive.

MB, Audi got poor. Several acceptables or marginals like Malibu should have been poor. BMW was marginal, looked pretty poor to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ByPAhoeU6UQ

[mdreibelbis]

Originally Posted by II Kings 9:20

Perchance I could have "zoom zoom" and a useable back seat at the same time? They do not have to be mutually exclusive.

I love the new Fusion but like the Sonata/Malibu is crippled by cramped rear quarters. It's short side window syndrome is not as bad as the Lacrosse but like the Lacross, I guarantee a head bang when trying to articulate yourself into the back seat (happened to me on my Lacrosse Test drive).

I agree that Mazda marches to the beat of a different drummer which is laudable but if you are going to claim to be in the midsize category and claim to have seating for 5, asking for adequate rear room should not preclude their "zoom zoom" sporty look and feel. The room is adequate which is adequate to go to dinner but inadequate for road trips.

We don't expect to ever use the rear seat in a 911, the same can not be said for families who are shopping Mazda for a sedan. This is an issue for me because my family sedan is used for that: Family trips for five. Driving to work everyday, the rear quarter matters not. That is really a job for a Boxter/Miata.

I suspect the Mazda is aimed at a younger "family" so maybe the lack of room isn't an issue if you're a 20 something just starting a family or a 30 something with kinds under the age of 10. It's entry level pricing is lower than the Fusion and Accord: http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...on-accord.html.


I think the Mazda 6's competition will come more from the Kia Optima crowd than the Accord/Camry crowd.

One thing that's a bit silly is they're selling the 2014 model now and it's only been 2013 for thee days now...

[jshaw]

I dare say room is even more important for the small family... Babies don't walk themselves into booster seats, :p

[deltaolds]

Originally Posted by finalheaven

I agree. I would have bought a Sonata over an Accord if it wasn't for the new 2013 which had better ride quality, sound, handling, and fuel economy.

i did buy sonata over 8th gen accord, i just returned 09 acord, last year. and didn't wanna drive same car for 3 years again. 2013th were not available, got sonata hybrid, very good car, attention to details better than accord's, had a lot more comfortable front seat, too bad it drowned.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by deltaolds

i did buy sonata over 8th gen accord, i just returned 09 acord, last year. and didn't wanna drive same car for 3 years again. 2013th were not available, got sonata hybrid, very good car, attention to details better than accord's, had a lot more comfortable front seat, too bad it drowned.

Just like Katrina cars, don't buy rehabed flood cars from NY/NJ.

Attention to detail-what does that mean, any specifics? I drove the Sonata and it was very nice but I did not live with it to discover this level of attention.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by mdreibelbis

One thing that's a bit silly is they're selling the 2014 model now and it's only been 2013 for thee days now...

FWIW, the 2014 Impala is out too. I think its cool.

[newfmp3]

Originally Posted by AccordinSoCal

It's a slow seller only because Mazda doesnt have the fund to promote it better.

There's a coupe in the works and Mazda wants to compete with Audi, so we'll see. I believe they have the what it takes and eventually they will fall out of the U.S. Market because Americans are brain washed into thinking it's only Honda and Toyota.

Only reason I didnt wait for the 6 was the lack of rear seat room compared to the Accord........that and the V6> Diesel and SkyActive G as far as performance....

In the four years I had the Speed6 the only person that knew what it was was a 15yr old kid that stopped me at the mall one day and said hey....is that a Speed 6?

I have never seen a Mazdaspeed commerical on tv. Rarely see an ad in a magazine. I live in an area where awd fusions, Subaru's, Taurus, Venza's, Matrix's etc are very very popular due to 6 months of snow. My mazdasped6 did not even have a AWD badge on it anywhere. These cars sat on lots next to normal mazda6 cars with a much bigger price tag and people never knew why. Thought it was just some fancy wheels. How many times do I hear people around here say they want a awd car. That alone could have sold many. Heck even the Crosstour sells up here because people are desperate for a awd Honda....yet every owner I talk to realizes that its...ugly.

You can make the best product in the world, but if nobody knows about it, nobody cares. That is why the Speed6 failed in sales.

[II Kings 9:20]

^^^ Very poor marketing. Just stupid on Mazda's part. The Crosstour (and it's ugly sister ZDX) is a Pontiac Aztek-that is not a compliment.

[MM49]

Originally Posted by II Kings 9:20

Me too. Featureless Honda threw down the gauntlet with the 13 Accord re design. If left up to them, we would not have a rear camera, bluetooth streaming, or keyless start on some models. My 12 MDX does not have keyless available on ANY model. Competition forces companies like Honda kicking and screaming into the 21st century to step up.

Honda deserves tremendous credit for making the Accord crash structure to perform well in the small overlap crash test long before being forced by the competition.

They were first along with Volvo.

If you have not seen this, video below. This is very impressive.

MB, Audi got poor. Several acceptables or marginals like Malibu should have been poor. BMW was marginal, looked pretty poor to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ByPAhoeU6UQ

When was the last time you or anyone shopping for a car asked if the car performed good on a "crash test" lol. Like nobody cares, I'm pretty sure few do but vast majority doesn't ask, care and probably never thought about it. Good thing that Honda got good rating and I don't mind but its not a big thing(well at least imo).


Mazda is a great car company and so is Honda. If you like Honda, great!! If you like Mazda, great!! As for me Honda is in my blood lol