4cyl? With this much power?

[on2]

Originally Posted by Scott33

There've been a couple of posts citing reasons for the extra 4hp on the sport trim. I'm curious, but I'm pretty certain it's attributed solely to the split exhaust.

Care to explain? Let me know how a split "at the end" of an exhaust system creates more power on a "small 4-cylinder".

[Scott33]

Originally Posted by on2

Care to explain? Let me know how a split "at the end" of an exhaust system creates more power on a "small 4-cylinder".

4hp are peanuts. Do you believe the split doesn't change the airflow at all? Can you explain the 4hp difference?

[on2]

Originally Posted by Scott33

4hp are peanuts. Do you believe the split doesn't change the airflow at all? Can you explain the 4hp difference?

Minuscule change in airflow at the point where it no longer matters on an engine that doesn't need much room to breath in the first place. ECU tune for the extra 4HP.

[Scott33]

Originally Posted by on2

ECU tune for the extra 4HP.

Post a source and I'll eat my words, but for now, I call fabricated BS.

[xdviper]

I remember hearing somewhere, the sport also has a "sport tuned suspension" or is that another marketing lie?

[DRK92]

A tune can more easily make up the 5 hp than the dual exhaust.
If anything I've even heard of dual exhausts to be less effective on 4 cylinder engines because of the y pipes being restrictive to airflow.

[RTexasF]

I've been on here a hell of along time and I cannot believe this "octane thing" is still going on today. To the OP with the new car....run 87 octane PERIOD. If you live at altitude (Denver) then 85 octane will be just hunky dory. This has been hashed out year after year after year ad nauseum . Using search just use the keyword octane and you will have enough reading for the rest of your life.

There are those that say "it runs better on premium" but have no proof whatsoever, none, they never do. The BUTT dynamometer proves nothing at all. Premium fuel does burn slower and is detrimental to engines not designed for it in the long run. Why? Carbon deposits from the slower burn. It builds up both in the engine and exhaust system including the cat converter. That's an expensive mistake to make when you must replace it due to your own stupidity thinking you know better than Honda engine designers/engineers..

As I have said here a hundred times before DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't believe me or anyone else here. Search, read, and use you noogin. Once you do you will come to the same conclusion that Honda and other experts have, along with those that have common sense: 87 octane in an unmodified Honda engine designed for it is all you will ever need. Higher octane makes YOU feel good but your car doesn't give a shit and will likely LOSE miles per gallon and performance over the long term if you bother to keep track.

[glen e]

Originally Posted by RTexasF

I've been on here a hell of along time and I cannot believe this "octane thing" is still going on today. To the NEWB with the new car....run 87 octane PERIOD. This has been hashed out year after year after year ad nauseum . Using search just use the keyword octane and you will have enough reading for the rest of your life.

There are those that say "it runs better on premium" but have no proof whatsoever, none. The BUTT dynamometer proves nothing at all. Premium fuel does burn slower and is detrimental to engines not designed for it in the long run. Why? Carbon deposits from the slower burn. It builds up both in the engine and exhaust.

As I have said here a hundred times before DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't believe me or anyone else here. Search, read, and use you noogin'. Once you do you will come to the same conclusion that Honda and other experts have: 87 octane in an unmodified engine designed for it is all you will ever need. Higher octane makes YOU feel good but your car doesn't give a shit and will likely LOSE miles per gallon and performance over the long term if you bother to keep track.

Even if you have the "Sport" motor

[RTexasF]

Smarty Aleck!

[SHINCHU]

Originally Posted by xdviper

I remember hearing somewhere, the sport also has a "sport tuned suspension" or is that another marketing lie?

what market? honda never claimed that. i asked that exact question to my salesman when i was getting my sport. answer was no.
(first thing i asked before i even picked up a brochure. this sport is no type R by any means lol)

so whoever told you it has a "sport tuned suspension" was either lying or honestly had no idea what they were talking about.
only thing near the suspension thats different is the 18" wheels.

as for RTexasF...
THANK YOU thats exactly what i was getting at!

[xdviper]

Originally Posted by SHINCHU

what market? honda never claimed that. i asked that exact question to my salesman when i was getting my sport. answer was no.
(first thing i asked before i even picked up a brochure. this sport is no type R by any means lol)

so whoever told you it has a "sport tuned suspension" was either lying or honestly had no idea what they were talking about.
only thing near the suspension thats different is the 18" wheels.

as for RTexasF...
THANK YOU thats exactly what i was getting at!

The Cars.com review of the sport states the sport has a "sport tuned suspension." I'd give you the source but I'm on the phone, but if you Google it, you'll find it.

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[glen e]

Originally Posted by xdviper

The Cars.com review of the sport states the sport has a "sport tuned suspension." I'd give you the source but I'm on the phone, but if you Google it, you'll find it.

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that does not mean it has it....cars.com just reported that....it is the same suspension as others....the sport is nothing more than a great group of build accessories to make it a sport, not an actually sport application....it's just like all the rest of the 13 accords...not like an audi S type or M from BMW....

nothing here:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/10/2...-review-video/

[SHINCHU]

wow. they are dead wrong. its not in any honda brochure or anything.
i grabbed all the freebie stuff i could from the dealer and stuffed it in my glove box lol

i guess they want you to drop the extra cash on the HFP springs/shocks... whenever they are released.

bummer though. it really SHOULD have a sport tuned suspension.
however i cant complain as my sport hugs corners like a champ. (but there is always room for improvement)

[DRK92]

Granted I have a coupe. I wonder if there would be an improvement going from a sedan suspension to the coupes.
Or a suspension that came from an i4 vs V6.
For civics, there was a difference between the suspensions from the dx/lx/ex/ex-l and the si. Don't recall how it was for the 8th gen accord.


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