Injen CAI for 2013 3.5L V6 coming soon!

[AccordinSoCal]

Originally Posted by RyRy

Would a CAI void the manufacture's warranty?

It depends on the service department also. I've never had an issue with intakes on exhaust on my TDI, Mazdaspeed 3 or WRX. I would talk to the service manager of your local dealer and see how they feel about aftermarket parts.

[hojo]

Pilotbear, any ballpark eta on the availability of the 3.5 cai (have the same car as you)?

[Nomar]

Originally Posted by pilotbear

My husband owns a customizing shop and he gets this question all the time. Basically, they have to prove that the part or parts that you put on your car affected the vehicle in some negative way. In the years I have been adding aftermarket parts to my vehicles, I have never had a dealership refuse to work on my car or refuse to honor a warranty because of the customizations I have made. This includes a 2006 Civic SI with exhaust, intake, power programmer, etc.

It really depends on the dealership, but like I said, they have to have proof. Under normal driving conditions, the CAI should not ever be a problem with the manufacturer.

Originally Posted by AccordinSoCal

It depends on the service department also. I've never had an issue with intakes on exhaust on my TDI, Mazdaspeed 3 or WRX. I would talk to the service manager of your local dealer and see how they feel about aftermarket parts.

It should have nothing to do with the dealerships. Ryry....google Magnusun Law....or something like that.

It basically states that is the part that is on your car has to cause the issue that you are trying to get warranty work done. Say you go in cause your shock is blown and you have and aftermarket intake. They cannot deny the work on the suspension.

Now if you have aftermarket coilovers and you have an issue with the suspension then the dealership will deny the warranty work.

[AccordinSoCal]

Originally Posted by Nomar

It should have nothing to do with the dealerships. Ryry....google Magnusun Law....or something like that.

It basically states that is the part that is on your car has to cause the issue that you are trying to get warranty work done. Say you go in cause your shock is blown and you have and aftermarket intake. They cannot deny the work on the suspension.

Now if you have aftermarket coilovers and you have an issue with the suspension then the dealership will deny the warranty work.

This is true. But I would still get a feel for the service department.....

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by Nomar

It should have nothing to do with the dealerships. Ryry....google Magnusun Law....or something like that.

It basically states that is the part that is on your car has to cause the issue that you are trying to get warranty work done. Say you go in cause your shock is blown and you have and aftermarket intake. They cannot deny the work on the suspension.

Now if you have aftermarket coilovers and you have an issue with the suspension then the dealership will deny the warranty work.

Yes but what about some internal engine component that can be associated with some engine mod even if the mod did not fail? The M-M act of congress is great but few of us have deep enough pockets to go toe to toe with Honda if they deny a claim even if we think they have no proof that a mod caused the failure.

Having said that, I mod every car I own that is not a lease and I don't worry about such things. This intake looks great as do the numbers. I had an intake on my 300C which was excellent but I had to remove the obnoxious exhaust that I installed.

[pilotbear]

Originally Posted by hojo

Pilotbear, any ballpark eta on the availability of the 3.5 cai (have the same car as you)?

Should be within the next two weeks, according to Injen.

Originally Posted by Nomar

It should have nothing to do with the dealerships. Ryry....google Magnusun Law....or something like that.

It basically states that is the part that is on your car has to cause the issue that you are trying to get warranty work done. Say you go in cause your shock is blown and you have and aftermarket intake. They cannot deny the work on the suspension.

Now if you have aftermarket coilovers and you have an issue with the suspension then the dealership will deny the warranty work.

Unfortunately, it does have to do with dealerships. It's always best to test them out and see their stance on aftermarket parts. While, by law, they have to follow the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, I have seen many people who have valid issues with their car that have nothing to do with aftermarket parts that the dealership refuses to service. It just helps to do research in order to avoid headaches.

[RyRy]

Originally Posted by pilotbear

My husband owns a customizing shop and he gets this question all the time. Basically, they have to prove that the part or parts that you put on your car affected the vehicle in some negative way. In the years I have been adding aftermarket parts to my vehicles, I have never had a dealership refuse to work on my car or refuse to honor a warranty because of the customizations I have made. This includes a 2006 Civic SI with exhaust, intake, power programmer, etc.

It really depends on the dealership, but like I said, they have to have proof. Under normal driving conditions, the CAI should not ever be a problem with the manufacturer.

Originally Posted by AccordinSoCal

It depends on the service department also. I've never had an issue with intakes on exhaust on my TDI, Mazdaspeed 3 or WRX. I would talk to the service manager of your local dealer and see how they feel about aftermarket parts.

Originally Posted by Nomar

It should have nothing to do with the dealerships. Ryry....google Magnusun Law....or something like that.

It basically states that is the part that is on your car has to cause the issue that you are trying to get warranty work done. Say you go in cause your shock is blown and you have and aftermarket intake. They cannot deny the work on the suspension.

Now if you have aftermarket coilovers and you have an issue with the suspension then the dealership will deny the warranty work.

Originally Posted by AccordinSoCal

This is true. But I would still get a feel for the service department.....

All great information - thank you!

I like the idea of getting a feel for the service department/advisers - nothing wrong in getting their opinion on a hypothetical, right?

All that said - I am looking forward to this product!

On a real quick side-note regarding performance:
Do we think the 3.5 could be pushed to 300hp?

Thanks again

[pilotbear]

Originally Posted by RyRy

All great information - thank you!

I like the idea of getting a feel for the service department/advisers - nothing wrong in getting their opinion on a hypothetical, right?

All that said - I am looking forward to this product!

On a real quick side-note regarding performance:
Do we think the 3.5 could be pushed to 300hp?

Thanks again

I'm not sure we could get to 300 HP without a turbo or something like it. The engine is already running richer with the intake, which is odd because normally you would need to run lean to make power. Injen said it is different with the Hondas. I definitely plan on exhaust and a custom tune to see how close I can get, though.

[AccordinSoCal]

Originally Posted by pilotbear

I'm not sure we could get to 300 HP without a turbo or something like it. The engine is already running richer with the intake, which is odd because normally you would need to run lean to make power. Injen said it is different with the Hondas. I definitely plan on exhaust and a custom tune to see how close I can get, though.

Nice! Lets make a pitch to Hondata for a tune

Btw, I have emailed Magnaflow and they have no plans right now....

Tanabe is waiting on demand....

Borla didnt answer....

[Nomar]

Originally Posted by II Kings 9:20

Yes but what about some internal engine component that can be associated with some engine mod even if the mod did not fail? The M-M act of congress is great but few of us have deep enough pockets to go toe to toe with Honda if they deny a claim even if we think they have no proof that a mod caused the failure.

I think it would end up being the dealers word against yours in most cases. After all, they are supposed to be the "experts" on our cars, lol. After that is when lawyers and money become involve. Iv'e had enough run-in's with dealerships where they always try to place the blame on me for issues when it was clearly their fault.

Originally Posted by pilotbear

Unfortunately, it does have to do with dealerships. It's always best to test them out and see their stance on aftermarket parts. While, by law, they have to follow the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, I have seen many people who have valid issues with their car that have nothing to do with aftermarket parts that the dealership refuses to service. It just helps to do research in order to avoid headaches.

I agree, you can test out a dealership to feeel them out but in my experience the only time dealerships are "aftermarket" friendly is when that dealership sells and installs the aftermarket parts. I know for a fact that the 10 closest Honda dealerships to me will not do an alignment on a Honda car with coilovers even when that car has all the stock camber and toe adjustment parts.

Just like King....I will mod my car how I want it and deal with the dealership later, lol.

[RyRy]

Originally Posted by pilotbear

I'm not sure we could get to 300 HP without a turbo or something like it. The engine is already running richer with the intake, which is odd because normally you would need to run lean to make power. Injen said it is different with the Hondas. I definitely plan on exhaust and a custom tune to see how close I can get, though.

Just to be clear - 300hp at the flywheel - not to the ground - which I know would def take some forced induction!

If we're talking a gain of 7-8 with a CAI, that's 286ish?

Add an exhaust - do we think that's like a 15% gain? Or am I way off?

If so, that seems to def put it at 300+hp, right?

BTW, I love the performance of the car and I love the exhaust note when opening up the throttle a little - I'm just really curious about this J35Y2.

[namegoeshere]

Originally Posted by Nomar

It should have nothing to do with the dealerships. Ryry....google Magnusun Law.

Googled Magnusun Law and this came up.

The Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation and Management Act (MSA) is the primary law governing marine fisheries management in United States federal waters. The Act was first enacted in 1976 and amended in 1996. Most notably, the Magnuson-Stevens Act aided in the development of the domestic fishing industry by phasing out foreign fishing. To manage the fisheries and promote conservation, the Act created eight regional fishery management councils. The 1996 amendments focused rebuilding overfished fisheries, protecting essential fish habitat, and reducing bycatch.

President George W. Bush, through his Ocean Action Plan, made reauthorizing the Magnuson-Stevens Act a top priority. The President called for a hard deadline to end overfishing, increased use of market-based management tools, creation of a national saltwater angler registry, and an emphasis on ecosystem approaches to management.

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/msa2005/

Trying to figure out what this has to do with a CAI

[Slashdotted]

Originally Posted by namegoeshere

Googled Magnusun Law and this came up.

Trying to figure out what this has to do with a CAI

It was a typo, it's Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides...s/undermag.htm

[namegoeshere]

Originally Posted by Slashdotted

It was a typo, it's Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides...s/undermag.htm

[mikeyd914]

250 whp is great!!!! puts down more whp stock over the 8th gen... 9th gen Is definitely an upgrade!