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Old 11-18-2011, 01:37 PM
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2003 V6 Rear main seal $1900+!?

WOW! I've been a loyal Honda customer for almost 20 years and had over a dozen NEW Honda cars and Motorcycles.

This Accord has been the worst. First the tranmission goes out at 70,000 miles. First time I've ever asked for assistance from Honda due to the abundance of 2003 V6 transmission failures. They offered to split the over $3000 bill.

Now at 123,000 I'm told I have a rear main seal leak and it's a $1900 repair!

So I ask Honda if there is any way they can work with me here, I'm sure the same story has been told many times but this is the first time for me, they said no and the guy acted like I was stupid for even asking.

So I'm no longer going to buy Honda's , thank you to the guy from Honda who was sarcastic and rude for showing me the light.

I've read of others getting RMS replaced for $1000 or around that.
Is this $1900 quote correct? How could I justify spending that much on a 2003 vehicle with 123,000 miles?
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:53 PM
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the rear main seal was replaced in my 93 not that long ago for about 450....

take it to another dealer, or preferably, a reputable indy honda shop.
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Don't go to the Dealer to get work done on your 9 year old car...find a reputable independent shop that works on imports/Hondas.

If you put your location (city, state) in your profile, there might be some locals on the forum who can steer you in the right direction.

That rear main seal can't be more than $20 at dealer markup, so ~$1900 for just labor seems incredibly high.

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$1900 is stupid high. Get a quote from an independent and it will be more reasonable. Fix it and keep driving..............
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That rear main seal can't be more than $20 at dealer markup, so ~$1900 for just labor seems incredibly high.
Yes the seal is inexpensive but the job is labor "intensive." You have to drop the subframe and suspend the motor. On my 6th gen quotes were around $800.
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yeah, i remember the part being cheap, but the labor being most of the price.

i'm not sure if they had to suspend the engine, or just drop the tranny when they did it on mine.
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Well if your 2nd trans lasts as long as the first one you have 17,000 more miles to go till you need a new trans. Might as well wait till the trans grenades before replacing the RMS. Just another thing to think about.

I'd use some Maxlife trans fluid and see if that helps. Others on here have used it with good results.
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You can always shop around for vehicle repair, but claiming to be a "loyal" customer for over 20 years does not entitle you to special benefits for maintaining a 9 year old car with 123,000 miles. It is old, and major parts will need replacement as it continues to get older. So you can dump the car and buy another new one that will not require major maintenance for 10 years, or you can deal with the required maintenance of a car with over 100K miles. Sorry you got burned on your transmission. Honda replaced mine for free at 5 years/52,000 miles. But my '03 now has 100K miles and I have understand the fact that major components are getting old and will need replacement. But I don't expect special discounts for owning a Honda for an extended period of time. Every dealer will treat you the same way. An independent might have a lower labor rate and may find better part prices, but you shouldn't expect "senior" discounts for being a long time customer.
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You can always shop around for vehicle repair, but claiming to be a "loyal" customer for over 20 years does not entitle you to special benefits for maintaining a 9 year old car with 123,000 miles. It is old, and major parts will need replacement as it continues to get older. So you can dump the car and buy another new one that will not require major maintenance for 10 years, or you can deal with the required maintenance of a car with over 100K miles. Sorry you got burned on your transmission. Honda replaced mine for free at 5 years/52,000 miles. But my '03 now has 100K miles and I have understand the fact that major components are getting old and will need replacement. But I don't expect special discounts for owning a Honda for an extended period of time. Every dealer will treat you the same way. An independent might have a lower labor rate and may find better part prices, but you shouldn't expect "senior" discounts for being a long time customer.
That's fair enough, I didn't really EXPECT a discount but it doesn't hurt to ask as I feel at 123000 miles a RMS failure is premature. I didn't want free , meeting me halfway on the rediculous $1900 quote is all I was looking for.

Anyway I've shopped this around and now gotten quotes for around $1100. Guess that's what I'm going to pay. I think I was off the reservation a bit when I created this post, but the person from Honda set me off a bit.
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I did a rear main seal (oil seepage) fix under CPO warranty @ 61K miles, '07 V6. If I left till 100K+ miles, mine would've eventually leaked. I thought while I had the warranty I would fix it for free.

Anyways, they showed me the bill and it was $850. Seal part was like $16 and rest was labor/trans oil replace/ etc. So 1100 is still too high. Is that quote from a dealer? I have a feeling independent shops will do it for half of that.
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I did a rear main seal (oil seepage) fix under CPO warranty @ 61K miles, '07 V6. If I left till 100K+ miles, mine would've eventually leaked. I thought while I had the warranty I would fix it for free.

Anyways, they showed me the bill and it was $850. Seal part was like $16 and rest was labor/trans oil replace/ etc. So 1100 is still too high. Is that quote from a dealer? I have a feeling independent shops will do it for half of that.
I did you find out it was "seeping" if it wasn't leaking fluid?

Warranty work is usually billed according to book hours, while dealerships normally exaggerate the labor hours for non-warranty work.
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I did you find out it was "seeping" if it wasn't leaking fluid?

Warranty work is usually billed according to book hours, while dealerships normally exaggerate the labor hours for non-warranty work.
I was doing oil change and saw that transmission area had some moist. I though something was wrong with my transmission and asked around, it was real main seal.
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