My Hid's 6000k

[Markus]

Originally Posted by es08tg

I guess this could be a learning lesson. Don't post pics if you put HIDs in a sedan haha. I sure as hell won't be putting mine up. I like it OP. there does seem to be some glare but pictures are always much worse than in person. I got a 6000k kit too. Is it a slight tint of blue in person?



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I would have thought the more intelligent amongst us would have learned that HID kits in halogen housings are simply a mistake.

[Squirtle]

HID's were the first mod I did to my accord when my mom gave it to me after buying herself an 8th gen sedan. This was almost 2 years ago, I live in New York so we get harsh winters (although last winter was pretty smooth) and heavy rain. I always see fine with my HID's I see signs, cars, people, etc. and I chose 8000k because I like the tint of blue.
Not once has a cop pulled me over or did I get an angry driver telling me my lights are too bright. For all you guys saying You couldnt see a thing, or other cars HID's in non projectors blind you, I seriously suggest you get you eyes checked or eat more carrots. Either that or I must have some super vision.

[t-rd]

Originally Posted by Squirtle

HID's were the first mod I did to my accord when my mom gave it to me after buying herself an 8th gen sedan. This was almost 2 years ago, I live in New York so we get harsh winters (although last winter was pretty smooth) and heavy rain. I always see fine with my HID's I see signs, cars, people, etc. and I chose 8000k because I like the tint of blue.
Not once has a cop pulled me over or did I get an angry driver telling me my lights are too bright. For all you guys saying You couldnt see a thing, or other cars HID's in non projectors blind you, I seriously suggest you get you eyes checked or eat more carrots. Either that or I must have some super vision.

The 8th gen's housing has a thinner profile than the 7th gen, it's like that of 6th gen, which creates less glare. HID in 7th gen looks like shit period because of it's rounder or open housing design. If you haven't done it or seen it then you should see it in person. This is also the same reason why those who installed JDM Inspire housing in their 7th gen has better luck with HID because of the flat physical cutoff line in the middle of the large housing. If you are talking about lumens for HID, then 4300k HID gives the most, the rest is all for show. Purple and blue emit less lumens. There is a good reason why fog lights use yellow light because it gives off the most lumens for visibility.

[lockdown36]

HID vs Halogen Glare



Those are in a halogen housing.


How the output should be

[7GenAllStar]

Originally Posted by lockdown36

HID vs Halogen Glare
Those are in a halogen housing.


How the output should be

the glare depends on the car.. either way projectors look crisp and not sloppy.

[devi0us]

A common response to criticisms of HIDs in reflectors is something along the lines of:

"They don't blind anyone because I had <friend/relative> look at them while I drove and they weren't blinded."

Just because a few people don't think so doesn't mean that there isn't glare. Many things can change their perception of light at night, such as age, eyesight quality, distance, weather conditions, personal bias, etc.

Because humans and the human eye are unreliable testing devices, these variables would be eliminated or better controlled using a machine to test light output. Such a machine is shown in a video in the link below, which also has great information, including PDFs that show the science involved in testing.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

A PDF with test results of a 9004 HID bulb.

http://dastern.torque.net/techdocs/H..._HID_Retro.pdf

In the end, one can twist words and make claims all they want, but the science and proof is there. Eliminate bias and variables, use a machine with results that are reproducible.

EDIT:

I'd like to add that just because a cop has not pulled you over for HIDs, does not mean that there isn't a problem. That is fallacious logic, akin to saying:

"No one has ever commented on my body odor, therefore I do not stink."

The truth is pulling over drivers with illegal headlight setups are very low priority for police, and that assumes that the police are educated to look out for such setups.

[justinsomniac]

I'm 23 years old and have always had 20/20 vision. I live in an area where it seems everyone wants to have cool-looking cars and only half of them want to spend the right money on it. I will admit that saying I'm "blinded" by HIDs in halogen reflectors is indeed an exaggeration, but it still doesn't look right. Although I don't think anyone actually "hates" you or anyone else for doing it.

I should be able to look directly at an oncoming driver's headlights and not have to lift up my head or squint. I shouldn't have residual light blur in my eyes after driving away, like I just stared at the sun. People who throw HIDs in their reflector housings create this situation. Fortunately for those who do, our Accords are not high off the ground and are rarely going to blind anyone, even with the glare.

Unfortunately, some vehicles are not cars and some housings are not as HID-friendly. This is why, out of principle, most of the forum users here believe people should do a retrofit or buy projector housings for a vehicle that does not have a stock HID set-up. The more "opinionated" side of this issue does come up in these threads though, so don't take it so personal.

As for my opinion, if you're going to do it, try to stay close to 4300k. I just don't think a large reflector housing that is entirely blue with almost no output looks good at all. It's just like you have a blue film over it. After all, you're doing it for the appearance more than anything, right?

[BMBaccord]

I got 4300 HIDs in my stock lights and it has been perfect. I am saving to get projectors eventually, but in the meantime that is what I use. I have never had a problem at night, rain, or snow.

Never been flashed, or pulled over and I even had my sister drive my car while I drove her car so I was the oncoming traffic so I could see what everyone else sees. The lights are brighter than the average halogen bulb, but not much brighter than a HID with projectors. I see many BMWs for example which have HIDs and seem very bright/blinding so it has nearly the same effect. Yes, I am aware that it is not the "proper" installation though.

To the OP, the picture looks pretty bad honestly. Mine don't look anywhere close to that. Hope its just a bad angle or whatever.

[Mitchell]

Its pretty obvious that there are two types of people here on driveaccord. There are those that are for HID's and those that are against HID's. The ones who are for it will argue that the glare doesn't both them, they haven't been pulled over, they arn't dangerous ect ect ect. The ones that are against it will argue that they are dangerous, cause excessive glare, result in more police attention ect ect ect. This is an ongoing debate that typically results in mods locking the thread. Why dont we all just agree to disagree and call it day.

[lockdown36]

Well im all for HIDs. I have projectors.

[LI69]

Originally Posted by mitchell

its pretty obvious that there are two types of people here on driveaccord. There are those that are for hid's and those that are against hid's. The ones who are for it will argue that the glare doesn't both them, they haven't been pulled over, they arn't dangerous ect ect ect. The ones that are against it will argue that they are dangerous, cause excessive glare, result in more police attention ect ect ect. This is an ongoing debate that typically results in mods locking the thread. Why dont we all just agree to disagree and call it day.

amen

[Rattmann]

Originally Posted by t-rd

The 8th gen's housing has a thinner profile than the 7th gen, it's like that of 6th gen, which creates less glare. HID in 7th gen looks like shit period because of it's rounder or open housing design. If you haven't done it or seen it then you should see it in person. This is also the same reason why those who installed JDM Inspire housing in their 7th gen has better luck with HID because of the flat physical cutoff line in the middle of the large housing. If you are talking about lumens for HID, then 4300k HID gives the most, the rest is all for show. Purple and blue emit less lumens. There is a good reason why fog lights use yellow light because it gives off the most lumens for visibility.

7th gen Inspire JDM Headlight are way better and advanced than US version!

P.S. they solved the so called thick headlight housing issue with beam pattern.

[Toshbar]

Yellow fog lights have nothing to do with lumens. The yellow increases contrast.

[fffuhq]

i had the same problem with my glare, make sure you have the bulbs positioned in there correctly (metal wire connector on bulb facing down same way on both sides). i angled them a lil down and the car is lowered so now it doesn't blind anyone. i hope you find this advice helpful.

[2muchbass]

i have had hids in halogen reflectors and i now own a projector retrofit and the light output is 100x more better even with the same bulbs