The REAL offical look at the 2013 9th gen honda accord....thoughts?

[2010accordv6]

Lavoz26 not like it matters but your post rating is stuck at 7? It doesn't increase when you reply to some one? Don't ask how I noticed, just did actually mine doesn't go up either?
The camaro is a nice car, every time I see one I wish I'd bought one and consider trading mine in. But I did want more of a daily driver car and am happy with the accord so far. Guess a v6 camaro would have worked? Anyway great choice on the convertible at least you don't have to worry about hail damaging your pano.

[internalaudit]

Can anyone tell from this youtube video whether it is a DBW suspension? TIA.

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[Mechanic]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

Can anyone tell from this youtube video whether it is a DBW suspension? TIA. . . .

No, you can't. This has been discussed at length on vtec.net. You can only see the bottom of the shock in this pic. You need to see the top of the suspension mounting to know whether the shock is a MacPherson strut or mounted in a double-wishbone setup, as in the past.

[Edaccord08]

Originally Posted by Mechanic

No, you can't. This has been discussed at length on vtec.net. You can only see the bottom of the shock in this pic. You need to see the top of the suspension mounting to know whether the shock is a MacPherson strut or mounted in a double-wishbone setup, as in the past.

if its double wishbone than its a shock, like gen8 not McPherson as you generally don't need upper A arm cause the strut tower is the pivot point .

Not sure what you mean by DBW , I guess your talking active suspension were it can adjust firmness dynamically.

Edit: after looking at vid and some pics posted, they definitely redesigned the front suspension, its hard to say from pics but things that stand out .
Lower A arm looks changed ,back mount. no swaybar link mount (looks like it going to top either upper A arm or shock . steering linkage change and I don't see the yoke for shock bottom mount like all previous gen's .

[cdp326]

Originally Posted by HADriver06

I thought I was the only one who thought about this but apparently I'm not alone on this.

I definitely see some resemblance to the 6th gen from the front... the rear is looking more Genesis-like though.

I thought the same, the front especially looks like the 6th gen MMC with more trim (chrome, projectors, etc).

Originally Posted by Lavoz26

and as for sunroof sizes, it does make a difference, because your here with a "conservative" car as you call it, and payed 30+ for your 9th gen, mean while someone is driving a Kia with a panoramic roof for less than what u payed, and as for your innovative "blind spot assist" that comes on some of the 9th gen, thats nothing to be happy about, being that honda is one of the LAST cars to get that technology and as always they are last, the ford taurus started coming with that like 3 years ago. Thats not pretty innovative to me and im sure alot of other people on here think the same. Does it make sence for anyone on here to pay almost 37,000 for a car so u can be considered to have a conservative look???

A $22k Elantra GT has a panoramic moonroof, so it would beat all of them if that's the only thing people care about. But Camry, Altima, Fusion, Malibu - the other models with large sales volumes in the segment - all have regular moonroofs anyway. Though it would be nice, it's not one of those make-or-break features and I wouldn't be surprised to see it come up on the TLX.

People do buy expensive cars with conservative looks all the time, look at the entry-level luxury sedan market. But since the bulk of the midsize sedan market is not $37,000 models but below $30k, many won't opt for some of the highest features anyway. The sales mix of the V6/turbo 4 (where applicable) models is pretty slim anyway, from what I recall.

Given the competitive nature of the segment and all the newly redesigned models, the looks of the new Accord will matter less than will the efficiency, refinement, comfort/handling balance, and (in particular) reliability/quality.

[Lavoz26]

Originally Posted by cdp326

I thought the same, the front especially looks like the 6th gen MMC with more trim (chrome, projectors, etc).



A $22k Elantra GT has a panoramic moonroof, so it would beat all of them if that's the only thing people care about. But Camry, Altima, Fusion, Malibu - the other models with large sales volumes in the segment - all have regular moonroofs anyway. Though it would be nice, it's not one of those make-or-break features and I wouldn't be surprised to see it come up on the TLX.

People do buy expensive cars with conservative looks all the time, look at the entry-level luxury sedan market. But since the bulk of the midsize sedan market is not $37,000 models but below $30k, many won't opt for some of the highest features anyway. The sales mix of the V6/turbo 4 (where applicable) models is pretty slim anyway, from what I recall.

Given the competitive nature of the segment and all the newly redesigned models, the looks of the new Accord will matter less than will the efficiency, refinement, comfort/handling balance, and (in particular) reliability/quality.

Very well said!

[Lavoz26]

Originally Posted by 2010accordv6

Lavoz26 not like it matters but your post rating is stuck at 7? It doesn't increase when you reply to some one? Don't ask how I noticed, just did actually mine doesn't go up either?
The camaro is a nice car, every time I see one I wish I'd bought one and consider trading mine in. But I did want more of a daily driver car and am happy with the accord so far. Guess a v6 camaro would have worked? Anyway great choice on the convertible at least you don't have to worry about hail damaging your pano.

Yea man thanks, your right, everytime i saw one i was like yoo i need one of those, dont get me wrong, the honda accord treated me really good, and i have a 96 accord for my daily driver and its awsome, and for the weekend, the beast will come out lol. And yea, the V6 camaro would have worked great, still has 323HP and if you get the 2LT, it comes with all the goodies of the 2SS.

[poorboyaccord]

why does it have reflectors on the rear bumper?

[Neji]

Weird. The sedan looks like it has turn signals on the side view mirrors but it is very obvious that the coupe does not. IMO the accord has been missing this for awhile.

[TheGandalf]

The coupe had the turn side in the mirrors too. Only lower trims wont get them.

[jshaw]

Originally Posted by poorboyaccord

why does it have reflectors on the rear bumper?

The correct answer starts with:

"In almost all other countries except, 'nobody-is-smarter-than-us,' USA, they are rear fogs."

But noooo.. not in the US. Not even parking lights.

[starsfaninco]

Has anyone heard if the navigation system will have traffic updates? My 2008 doesn't and with Denver traffic, I have to use the iphone garmin app to route me around it. Kinda makes me wonder why I bothered with integrated navi to begin with other than I like a clean look. Hoping the new navi does have it, but just haven't seen any real confirmation.

Cheers

[benjaminh]

Originally Posted by starsfaninco

Has anyone heard if the navigation system will have traffic updates? My 2008 doesn't and with Denver traffic, I have to use the iphone garmin app to route me around it. Kinda makes me wonder why I bothered with integrated navi to begin with other than I like a clean look. Hoping the new navi does have it, but just haven't seen any real confirmation.

Cheers

Yes!

http://www.hondanews.com/channels/ho...ccord-interior

Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System With Voice Recognition And FM Traffic
The Accord’s available Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System uses GPS technology and a fast new 60-GB hard-drive based (HDD) system to provide drivers with turn-by-turn guidance to their chosen destination. The system adds FM traffic data for 2013 and provides coverage in many large metropolitan areas within the U.S., allowing the driver to choose faster, less congested routes. Unlike some other in-car traffic data systems, FM Traffic has no recurring subscription fee. Faster, more capable and easier to use than any previous-generation Honda system, the Accord’s new system is similar to current Odyssey and Pilot navigation systems.

Accord’s navigation features an 8-inch (diagonal) high-resolution WVGA (800x480 pixel) backlit color display that takes the place of the lower-resolution i-MID display in non-navigation models. The system can be controlled by voice, or with a convenient interface dial. The new technology allows the voice-activation system to respond to more casual command phrases that require less user familiarization, in addition to the previous capability of being able to understand spoken city and street names. For example, a voice request for "Radio 98.3 FM" can now be spoken in approximately a dozen different ways ranging from "change the radio station to 98.3" to "98.3 FM." This logic applies to audio functionality of the audio/information screen. The navigation system can also be controlled by voice with conventional navigation commands like, "Find nearest Chinese restaurant" or "find nearest ATM."

The audio system is automatically muted when the "Talk" button is pressed. The voice-recognition technology allows the driver to simply speak city and street names aloud, and the system responds by displaying the matches available in the database. Points of interest on the map (such as restaurants or grocery stores) can be displayed with brand logo icons or you can have the system provide turn-by-turn navigation – all by voice command. The massive point-of-interest (POI) database includes telephone numbers, which can be dialed by using the Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink® system when the driver's cellular telephone is connected to the system.

The Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System uses Global Positioning Satellites (GPS) in combination with detailed information from the vehicle's mapping system to pinpoint the vehicle's location and to provide a host of useful mapping and route guidance features. The antenna can utilize up to 12 satellites from a network of 24 global positioning satellites. If the antenna is obstructed by a tunnel, a parking garage or a tall building, an internal gyroscopic system and a speed sensor track the location of the vehicle so that the map information remains current and reliable. The vehicle clock is independently controlled by GPS data, so when time zones are crossed while driving, the clock will automatically set itself to the current time.

A digital version of the Zagat Survey® restaurant guide provides detailed information and reviews on select restaurants in the database. The reviews can be read on-screen or spoken over the audio system by a synthesized voice.

The navigation system can also suggest scenic routes based on the National Scenic Byways and All-American Roads guide. The National Scenic Byways Program is part of the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration. The program is a grassroots collaborative effort established to help recognize, preserve and enhance selected roads throughout the United States. Since 1992, the National Scenic Byways Program has funded 2,832 projects for state and nationally designated byway routes in 50 states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. The U.S. Secretary of Transportation recognizes certain roads as All-American Roads or National Scenic Byways based on one or more archeological, cultural, historic, natural, recreational and scenic qualities. Scenic-route information for 126 routes can be accessed from inside the "Information" menu and is displayed on the map as a green-and-red segmented line.

[starsfaninco]

Great news. Thanks for the info. 2013 Crosstour in the immediate future, just waiting for it to be released.

[Technocrat]

Originally Posted by starsfaninco

Has anyone heard if the navigation system will have traffic updates? My 2008 doesn't and with Denver traffic, I have to use the iphone garmin app to route me around it. Kinda makes me wonder why I bothered with integrated navi to begin with other than I like a clean look. Hoping the new navi does have it, but just haven't seen any real confirmation.

Cheers

From what I recently read, The Acura RL's navigation comes with Traffic, I wonder if that setting can be enabled in the Accord's Navigation.