New Engine for 9th gen Accord

[jshaw]

Originally Posted by Edaccord08

What they could be doing is using same mechanical parts as possible and just have Acura tuned for 91+ . This saves them from making specific engines for acura . they can probably share quiet a bit .

And it's not even like they haven't, before, lol. There was a time when the V6 accord had 240hp (to match the - then class leading - Altima V6, ironically), and the TL only had 225 (Type-S had a 260hp, but that's different, explained below).

And anyhow, even it if was just a smidgen over 300HP, the TL can be equipped with the 305HP engine (therefore creating the same situation as before, with the base TL having less power than the V6 Accord, but the upgraded one having more).

[hillstones]

Don't forget the new 6-speed auto transmission that will not be strong enough to handle the V6, because you know how Honda can screw that up.

[TheGandalf]

Originally Posted by hillstones

Don't forget the new 6-speed auto transmission that will not be strong enough to handle the V6, because you know how Honda can screw that up.

Glad you are back... What was it again that soured you to this point with Honda? Seems to me that in your book whatever they do is going to be the wrong thing.

[HADriver06]

Originally Posted by hillstones

Don't forget the new 6-speed auto transmission that will not be strong enough to handle the V6, because you know how Honda can screw that up.

I think the new 6 speed auto should be great for the new Accord without many issues like the AT problems they had in the past. I think they most likely have learned thier lesson from past, which is why they have decided to delay putting the 6AT into their Accords until now (when other competitors have had it for several years before they do). I had hoped the new 4cyl would also get the 6AT but it looks like CVT is what they decided to go with. Oh well..

I doubt the V6 Accord is going to have 300hp though. Looking at the numbers of their competitors, I think we are looking at a slight increase at 280or so. Or maybe they'll even forego a few horses, go down to 26x for the sake of better fuel efficiency. Better EPA numbers across the board is what is going to happen for sure.

[01svtL]

Originally Posted by HADriver06

I think the new 6 speed auto should be great for the new Accord without many issues like the AT problems they had in the past. I think they most likely have learned thier lesson from past, which is why they have decided to delay putting the 6AT into their Accords until now (when other competitors have had it for several years before they do). I had hoped the new 4cyl would also get the 6AT but it looks like CVT is what they decided to go with. Oh well..

I doubt the V6 Accord is going to have 300hp though. Looking at the numbers of their competitors, I think we are looking at a slight increase at 280or so. Or maybe they'll even forego a few horses, go down to 26x for the sake of better fuel efficiency. Better EPA numbers across the board is what is going to happen for sure.

Haha, how are you "doubting" this? It's a done deal. It will have at least 300hp. That is a fact.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by 01svtL

Haha, how are you "doubting" this? It's a done deal. It will have at least 300hp. That is a fact.

The stats came in from a Honda Canada dealer rep who was on another Accord forum, and the V6 is rated at 278 hp.

I'd like to know where you got your "at least 300hp. That is a fact" information from.

[Artema]

Originally Posted by fastball

The stats came in from a Honda Canada dealer rep who was on another Accord forum, and the V6 is rated at 289 hp.

I'd like to know where you got your "at least 300hp. That is a fact" information from.

Check out this sub-forum for the 9th gen. The references to that figure are listed. Direct injection by itself seems to just raise the efficiency to that point with few other changes.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Artema

Check out this sub-forum for the 9th gen. The references to that figure are listed. Direct injection by itself seems to just raise the efficiency to that point with few other changes.

What sub forum? Direct link?

[01svtL]

Originally Posted by fastball

The stats came in from a Honda Canada dealer rep who was on another Accord forum, and the V6 is rated at 289 hp.

I'd like to know where you got your "at least 300hp. That is a fact" information from.

A family member is part of the Honda 20 club. He was present at the meeting two weeks ago where they gave the club more insight on the next gen, as well as had the actual cars there for them to see (along with the next Civic). He confirmed to me that the next accord will have 300 hp.

[Artema]

Originally Posted by fastball

What sub forum? Direct link?

The one we're posting in now.
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=86

[fastball]

Originally Posted by 01svtL

Haha, how are you "doubting" this? It's a done deal. It will have at least 300hp. That is a fact.

Originally Posted by Artema

Check out this sub-forum for the 9th gen. The references to that figure are listed. Direct injection by itself seems to just raise the efficiency to that point with few other changes.

Originally Posted by 01svtL

A family member is part of the Honda 20 club. He was present at the meeting two weeks ago where they gave the club more insight on the next gen, as well as had the actual cars there for them to see (along with the next Civic). He confirmed to me that the next accord will have 300 hp.

I'm sorry, I had to double check the source, and I was wrong... the J35 is rated at 278hp for 2013:

"EX-L V6 (Adds or Replaces the above)
-3.5Litre SOHC 6 Cylinder Engine
-278HP
-17" Aluminum Alloy Wheels
-6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Grade Logic
-Halogen Projector Beam Headlights
-6 Speakers (No Subwoofer)
-Dual Exhaust Finishers "

Now this is a Honda dealer rep for Canada. I cannot imagine Canadian and USA models would vary by 22hp, if any.

[Artema]

Originally Posted by fastball

I'm sorry, I had to double check the source, and I was wrong... the J35 is rated at 278hp for 2013:

"EX-L V6 (Adds or Replaces the above)
-3.5Litre SOHC 6 Cylinder Engine
-278HP
-17" Aluminum Alloy Wheels
-6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Grade Logic
-Halogen Projector Beam Headlights
-6 Speakers (No Subwoofer)
-Dual Exhaust Finishers "

Now this is a Honda dealer rep for Canada. I cannot imagine Canadian and USA models would vary by 22hp, if any.

The following link is from Car and Driver, in the first post of this thread. It reports 308 for the 3.5L engine.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/honda-f...inder-engines/

[TheGandalf]

Originally Posted by Artema

The following link is from Car and Driver, in the first post of this thread. It reports 308 for the 3.5L engine.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/honda-f...inder-engines/

The DI V6 engine will be rated at 308HP, however the Accord is not slotted to receive this engine (at least at launch), it will be probably first be seen on an Acura model (RLX?) before it goes down to the Accord (and Pilot/Ody/CT/Ridgeline).

So from all the chatter, at launch the 9th Gen should have the following engines:
4 cylinders (ED) engine with DI:
LX rated at 183HP
Sport/EX/EX-L rated at 189HP

V6 Engines (new VCM 6-3 instead of 6-4-3) (still not ED):
278HP.

As I always say, I might be wrong, but since Honda still hasn't released the official info, the above info seems to be the consensus based on all the leaks...

[CFaccord45]

Originally Posted by fastball

-6 Speakers (No Subwoofer)

No Subwoofer on a EXL?!? that suc.ks!

[nafizur]

honestly, the engine is too much. I want more of a fuel efficient car. accord just drains too much gas