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[CKNSLS]

Originally Posted by MM49

Off duty Police Officers do use hats and jackets to save themselves from tickets. The hat displayed on the dashboard and jacket hanging on the front seat saves them from getting a ticket on their private vehicles parked where they are not suppose to.

Having known a few police personally, I will tell you how a traffic stop goes down when it's a fellow police officer.

1) As soon as the officer walks up to the car the driver identifies him self to the other officer as a fellow LEO and shows his badge. And then as a courtesy the driver lets the officer knows there is a weapon as well in the car (most likely when he is on his way to work).
2) Usually the officer tells him to drive careful and have a nice day.

3) It should be noted that wife's of police officers have been known to carry copies of their husbands ID and badge for when they get pulled over.

[ElectricFuzz]

Originally Posted by MM49

Off duty Police Officers do use hats and jackets to save themselves from tickets. The hat displayed on the dashboard and jacket hanging on the front seat saves them from getting a ticket on their private vehicles parked where they are not suppose to.

Anybody can buy a hat or jacket from a police uniform store. How do you know the people that display those in their cars are off duty officers?

In the NY/NJ area, real officers (and their family members) have official badges on their windshields.

[MM49]

Originally Posted by ElectricFuzz

Anybody can buy a hat or jacket from a police uniform store. How do you know the people that display those in their cars are off duty officers?

In the NY/NJ area, real officers (and their family members) have official badges on their windshields.

I don't but that's what they use to identify that the car belongs to Officer. I doubt it would be just any normal hat saying "Police" on it, it's probably the one where they have a small badge on it. This was also on news down here awhile back

[PHOsho]

My BI did mention that usually cops dont ticket the department families.
He neither confirmed nor denied the statement but he did mention it...

btw, Im going to start working for the SMPD starting this November! WOOOT!!

[hawgcaller]

Originally Posted by CKNSLS

Having known a few police personally, I will tell you how a traffic stop goes down when it's a fellow police officer.

1) As soon as the officer walks up to the car the driver identifies him self to the other officer as a fellow LEO and shows his badge. And then as a courtesy the driver lets the officer knows there is a weapon as well in the car (most likely when he is on his way to work).
2) Usually the officer tells him to drive careful and have a nice day.

3) It should be noted that wife's of police officers have been known to carry copies of their husbands ID and badge for when they get pulled over.

Really?????? Wow!!!!
As a former LEO, I can tell you how this would have been handled in my county.
If an individual used his ID or badge at the onset of a traffic stop, trying to get out of a ticket, the ticket would be issued, the badge/ID would be confiscated, turned over to the head of the dept. Then the dept Head would present the badge/ID to the dept head of the offender, where a suspension was rendered.
It did not matter if the offender was an officer or family member, the officer was considered responsible for the action.
It did not matter if it was PD, SO, or State Police, the policies were the same.
Public opinion relies on the public's perception of the officers and their actions.
The LEO community must police their own in-order to weed out bad apples, early recognition of these bad apples would cause the ethical officers to shun/avoid these individual, or be considered guilty by association. I always felt that these individuals would cause their own verifiable troubles soon enough, without me being part of it.

It appears from some postings, that Police Officer ethics are not considered important in some areas or departments. We all know there are bad actors in all organizations, no matter their role in society.
IMHO, most LEO are ethical, trying to feed their families and performing a service at the same time. Yet they are all human, and are under a microscope from all sides. Everyone has an idea as to how they should act, and it is hard to satisfy everyone.

[CKNSLS]

Originally Posted by hawgcaller

Really?????? Wow!!!!
As a former LEO, I can tell you how this would have been handled in my county.
If an individual used his ID or badge at the onset of a traffic stop, trying to get out of a ticket, the ticket would be issued, the badge/ID would be confiscated, turned over to the head of the dept. Then the dept Head would present the badge/ID to the dept head of the offender, where a suspension was rendered.
It did not matter if the offender was an officer or family member, the officer was considered responsible for the action.
It did not matter if it was PD, SO, or State Police, the policies were the same.
Public opinion relies on the public's perception of the officers and their actions.
The LEO community must police their own in-order to weed out bad apples, early recognition of these bad apples would cause the ethical officers to shun/avoid these individual, or be considered guilty by association. I always felt that these individuals would cause their own verifiable troubles soon enough, without me being part of it.

It appears from some postings, that Police Officer ethics are not considered important in some areas or departments. We all know there are bad actors in all organizations, no matter their role in society.
IMHO, most LEO are ethical, trying to feed their families and performing a service at the same time. Yet they are all human, and are under a microscope from all sides. Everyone has an idea as to how they should act, and it is hard to satisfy everyone.

In the big city cops don't give other cops tickets....or their family members.....usually. In the South we all know how some chief of police run their own counties. That's as far as I will go on that subject. I can just imagine in major metro areas where violent crime happens more frequently, having an officer call for backup either from his own agency or outside agencies, and having a fellow LEO roll up who you just gave a speeding ticket to a few days ago. Yea, that would work!

[hawgcaller]

Professional Courtesy is a gift to be "given" by the traffic officer, and not to be demanded or required by the offender, no matter their status.
Just because they are LEOs does not automatically mean that they can flash a badge or ID and require to be set free.
We all know,,,, that not all traffic stops end with a citation. That being said,,, there may have been some officer discretion or Professional Courtesy involved with that.
I have always felt that another officer should do his job as he sees fit, without me flashing anything in expectation of a free pass, and vice-versa. If it comes out inadvertently during the stop that they are LEO related, Professional Courtesy may or not be applied.
LEOs can commit Chargeable offenses, and can be as guilty as any other individual.
I have had this conversation with non-LEOs before, about this. Many times they would say "Yea, but who is going to arrest a Police Officer?"
My answer was and will always be " Another Police Officer."