Road Trip Completed: 705 Miles-38.5 MPG

[grover432]

Originally Posted by II Kings 9:20

All well put. One does not need to be an engineer to use common sense. Elsewhere the spacer talk has been abandonded, was not really a serious consideration for the obvious reasons you mention.

A cushion modification is far more reasonable. I wish the Touring had a height adjust, I could just slap one of those seats in but alas, it too has 30 year old 4 way adjustments.

OK, maybe this is a stupid idea, but is there any change the seat frames (right and left) are the same? Maybe you can adapt the seat from from the driver's side Touring to the passenger side of the car? Don't laugh, but I'm sure West Coast Customs can work this out. Just kidding. (I'd like to improve the seats too).

[Husker]

What about a right hand drive version seat, it would cost, but you would end up with dual seats that adjust up & down?

[grover432]

Originally Posted by Husker

What about a right hand drive version seat, it would cost, but you would end up with dual seats that adjust up & down?

Ouch! Does the US spec Accord make it to a RH drive market?

[Markus]

Originally Posted by grover432

Ouch! Does the US spec Accord make it to a RH drive market?

The 8th Gen US Spec Accord was sold in RHD markets such as Australia (and had more luxury options than were available in the US). I assume the 9th Gen will be sold there too.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by Husker

What about a right hand drive version seat, it would cost, but you would end up with dual seats that adjust up & down?

Now that would be interesting, also puts the side airbag in the right spot. That is an option. Got to run out and buy a lottery ticket now.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by grover432

OK, maybe this is a stupid idea, but is there any change the seat frames (right and left) are the same? Maybe you can adapt the seat from from the driver's side Touring to the passenger side of the car? Don't laugh, but I'm sure West Coast Customs can work this out. Just kidding. (I'd like to improve the seats too).

Not bad were it not for the side airbag location now next to the center console.

[princeaccord]

Originally Posted by II Kings 9:20

Seat comfort is great for the driver. No complaints from either wifey or me. The passenger seat bottom is angled flat with no under thigh support which is fully adjustable on the driver's side. Moreover, the passenger seat does not adjust up or down any model. Even the Touring gets only a 4 way power adjust which is very 30 years ago. I looked at the specs just now with the idea of replacing my passenger seat with a Touring seat but those Touring passengers sit on the floor too.

My issue with the seat is not hardness or padding comfort; rather it is the passenger's go cart like seating position down low and legs out ( I am perhaps exaggerating a bit on the go kart reference but is is close relative to the nicely adjustable driver's seat).

I felt refreshed after nearly 350 miles of driving. Wifey did not sitting in the passenger seat.

Hi Kings,
Could you please tell us more information on Passenger Seat.
1) Is it really low in height ?. How is the height of passenger compared to 2012 Accord ?.
2) How is the height of passenger seat compared to Camry 2012 and Altimate 2013 ?.

I just want to find out the seat height is comforatable and same as other cars or not.
Thanks in advance.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by princeaccord

Hi Kings,
Could you please tell us more information on Passenger Seat.
1) Is it really low in height ?. How is the height of passenger compared to 2012 Accord ?.
2) How is the height of passenger seat compared to Camry 2012 and Altimate 2013 ?.

I just want to find out the seat height is comforatable and same as other cars or not.
Thanks in advance.

I have never sat in the passenger seat of the Altima or Camry or the Accord until I took my road trip. Funny when test driving, I am not in the habit of checking out the passenger seat.

I just looked and the seat is only a little lower than the fully adjustable driver seat. The lack of the bottom seat angle adjustment is as big an issue as the lowness. Being able to tilt the driver front edge up just a bit and have the seat sit just a bit higher makes all the difference in the world. Neither wifey nor I have any complaints with the driver's seat even after 6 hours but the flat angled relatively lower passenger seat starts to get uncomfortable after a couple of hours.

Maybe we're just odd so don't let my experience taint your thoughts. You owe it to yourself to check it out but be sure to sit in the passenger seat (something I will do for all cars in the future).

[grover432]

Originally Posted by II Kings 9:20

I have never sat in the passenger seat of the Altima or Camry or the Accord until I took my road trip. Funny when test driving, I am not in the habit of checking out the passenger seat.

I just looked and the seat is only a little lower than the fully adjustable driver seat. The lack of the bottom seat angle adjustment is as big an issue as the lowness. Being able to tilt the driver front edge up just a bit and have the seat sit just a bit higher makes all the difference in the world. Neither wifey nor I have any complaints with the driver's seat even after 6 hours but the flat angled relatively lower passenger seat starts to get uncomfortable after a couple of hours.

Maybe we're just odd so don't let my experience taint your thoughts. You owe it to yourself to check it out but be sure to sit in the passenger seat (something I will do for all cars in the future).

I noticed it was low and flat too. When reaching for the adjustment lever, I was surprised to find I couldn't tilt the front of the seat up. We can't on our 2003 Accord either, but somehow the seat angle is better (not as flat). What is it with Honda and seats? the only other Honda product we've been happy with (seat wise) is our 2011 Odyssey.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by grover432

I noticed it was low and flat too. When reaching for the adjustment lever, I was surprised to find I couldn't tilt the front of the seat up. We can't on our 2003 Accord either, but somehow the seat angle is better (not as flat). What is it with Honda and seats? the only other Honda product we've been happy with (seat wise) is our 2011 Odyssey.

4 way power seats are so 30 years ago. At least for '13 we get the tech features like keyless start and bluetooth streaming that has been on the Camry since '07.

[Condor637]

Could you elaborate on how exactly your computing your MPG, are you resetting the trip to zero at the pump and than on the next refill you top off the tank and divide the traveled miles by the gallons pumped. That is how your doing it correct.

I test drove the car and Love it but the MPG issue is a ?, you seem to be the only person on the net with 4+ passengers and getting 40+ miles per gallon (previous thread). I have a 2010 Civic Hybrid and I get 45 mpg Hwy @ 65 mph.

In other words before I purchase I don't want to be tricked on the over inflated #'s and how exactly are you traveling 705 miles on a 17.2 gallon tank unless your averaging on a 2 fill up computation. It' not computing because on a 2 fill up average your mileage would be in excess of +1200 traveled miles unless it a average on 2 half tank fill up's approximately. But if the latter is the case another question is introduced, why would someone do that ? (present thread).

I hope your correct because this is a very nice sedan.

[mdreibelbis]

Originally Posted by Condor637

Could you elaborate on how exactly your computing your MPG, are you resetting the trip to zero at the pump and than on the next refill you top off the tank and divide the traveled miles by the gallons pumped. That is how your doing it correct.

I test drove the car and Love it but the MPG issue is a ?, you seem to be the only person on the net with 4+ passengers and getting 40+ miles per gallon (previous thread). I have a 2010 Civic Hybrid and I get 45 mpg Hwy @ 65 mph.

In other words before I purchase I don't want to be tricked on the over inflated #'s and how exactly are you traveling 705 miles on a 17.2 gallon tank unless your averaging on a 2 fill up computation. It' not computing because on a 2 fill up average your mileage would be in excess of +1200 traveled miles unless it a average on 2 half tank fill up's approximately. But if the latter is the case another question is introduced, why would someone do that ? (present thread).

I hope your correct because this is a very nice sedan.

I drove 150 miles (95% highway) last Sunday - with the econ button on and the cruise set for 65 for most of the trip - part of the trip was a two lane road where I drove between 55 and 60 with no cruise. I came in at just over 40 mpg for the trip according to the trip computer. That was with two people in the car.

I got 32.8 on my first fill up and 34.6 on my second fill up (dividing miles driven by the amount of gas to fill up the tank) which is roughly 80/20 driving pretty conservatively. The trip computer was pretty close to that for both fill ups so I would say it's within .5 mpg - so it's fair to say you can get 40 mpg from this car on the highway if you drive properly. My car only has 1,000 miles on it too - mpg should get a little better as it's broken in more.

Any stop and go driving is going to bring that down quickly though. When I get off the freeway in the morning I'm usually around 38 mpg - the one mile drive to the parking garage with about a half dozen stop lights can bring that down to 36 when I catch the lights.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by Condor637

Could you elaborate on how exactly your computing your MPG, are you resetting the trip to zero at the pump and than on the next refill you top off the tank and divide the traveled miles by the gallons pumped. That is how your doing it correct.

I hope your correct because this is a very nice sedan.

The first leg of the trip where I did the fill up was at 400 miles (approx 50 miles city) and I used 10.4 gallons which translates to 38.46. The entire 700 mile trip MPG showed on the trip computer at 38.5. The initial 40.5 figure was on the computer and for 340 miles of freeway only (10 miles city) and did not include driving around Niagra falls. Given that my measured MPGs are identical or 0.5 MPG better than the computer I am confident that this car if kept between 65 and 70 will do 40 MPG. I noted that the average decreased on the return with a strong head wind. I did not fill up again to test the return freeway MPG but the computer showed 38.5 in the headwind.

[II Kings 9:20]

Originally Posted by mdreibelbis

I drove 150 miles (95% highway) last Sunday - with the econ button on and the cruise set for 65 for most of the trip - part of the trip was a two lane road where I drove between 55 and 60 with no cruise. I came in at just over 40 mpg for the trip according to the trip computer. That was with two people in the car.

I got 32.8 on my first fill up and 34.6 on my second fill up (dividing miles driven by the amount of gas to fill up the tank) which is roughly 80/20 driving pretty conservatively. The trip computer was pretty close to that for both fill ups so I would say it's within .5 mpg - so it's fair to say you can get 40 mpg from this car on the highway if you drive properly. My car only has 1,000 miles on it too - mpg should get a little better as it's broken in more.

Any stop and go driving is going to bring that down quickly though. When I get off the freeway in the morning I'm usually around 38 mpg - the one mile drive to the parking garage with about a half dozen stop lights can bring that down to 36 when I catch the lights.

Any city kills MPGs no doubt. On my drive to work which is only 4 miles, I get between 19 and 26 depending on which lights I get caught at. Sitting at a traffic light you get 0 MPG which is like getting an F on a test wich will drop an A to a C before quick.

[Mechanic]

Condor, your comment about not wanting to be tricked into buying a 2013 Accord based on the mpg estimates you've been reading is, IMHO, healthy skepticism.

FWIW, when I first purchased my '09 EX 5-spd MT Accord, I did what most new owners do: I drove a bunch of miles running in a new engine and came up with an average mpg number. That number was high -- so high that I didn't post it because I knew that no one would believe a '09 Accord could routinely achieve "my" number.

Suffice it to say my mileage was comparable to the #s being quoted here. Not quite as good, but damn close.

So, what does that tell you? Well, according to one of the largest fuel mileage websites, fuelly.com, 8th gen. Accords average 26-28 mpg. My mileage, on the other hand, has never been that low, ever, in four years. Not even close.

From this you can infer that It's All in How You Drive Your Car.

IMHO, what you are reading now are excellent results achieved by new owners operating their cars under favorable conditions. In more normal conditions -- i.e., traffic, on-and-off the gas, hills, A/C running, teenage son, etc., you should expect those results will be difficult to achieve. In short, remain skeptical.