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Old 10-28-2012, 06:30 PM
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I changed out the OEM front speakers and tweeters in my EX-L to an aftermarket MB Quart component system (while still utilizing the factory amp) this past week and my tech said when he really cranked it up, he noticed a little mid-bass drop out which he attributed to the ANC system. I myself haven't had any issues thus far with bass drop out or feedback from the ANC system and am very happy with the sound. If you have the Sport model and want to preserve the ANC like Emmanuec, you probably want to go with just straight forward coaxial speakers that can utilize the 160 watt factory amp efficiently without adding an additional amp. If you go with aftermarket components and a sub in the sport model like iggibar, you will almost certainly need two additional amps as well as tweeter mounts and connections up front. With such extensive modification to the factory system, I would expect the ANC system to really disrupt the quality of sound and would end up just deactivating it IMO.
Thanks for your feedback. Do you know how much power go into the speakers in the EX-L model? I know the unit has more power, but I wonder if the difference in extra power goes to the subwoofer which the sport and EX models do not have. Maybe I can get components for the front and install the tweeters in the same area where they are located for the EX and EX-L models.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:58 PM
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Thanks for your feedback. Do you know how much power go into the speakers in the EX-L model? I know the unit has more power, but I wonder if the difference in extra power goes to the subwoofer which the sport and EX models do not have. Maybe I can get components for the front and install the tweeters in the same area where they are located for the EX and EX-L models.
360 watts spread throughout all seven ( including Sub). I upgraded my sub before upgrading my front speakers and added an external mono amp just for the sub so that the 360 watts from the factory goes into 6 speakers. Keep in mind that your 160 watt factory amp may not have enough power for components up front and the OEM rears so make sure that you look at the RMS watt specifications for any aftermarket speakers that you are interested in first to make sure that they won't be underpowered.
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:09 PM
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360 watts spread throughout all seven ( including Sub). I upgraded my sub before upgrading my front speakers and added an external mono amp just for the sub so that the 360 watts from the factory goes into 6 speakers. Keep in mind that your 160 watt factory amp may not have enough power for components up front and the OEM rears so make sure that you look at the RMS watt specifications for any aftermarket speakers that you are interested in first to make sure that they won't be underpowered.
True. I might be stuck with coaxial speakers. But any of the ones available at Crutchfield that "fit" convince me.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:05 AM
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i am a little confused..Crutchfield list both 51/4 and 6 1/2 for the front door speakers?? Which size is it and why do they list both?
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:12 AM
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i am a little confused..Crutchfield list both 51/4 and 6 1/2 for the front door speakers?? Which size is it and why do they list both?
Probably they both fit with a bracket.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:33 AM
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i am a little confused..Crutchfield list both 51/4 and 6 1/2 for the front door speakers?? Which size is it and why do they list both?
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Probably they both fit with a bracket.
What Emmanuec said. I've bought speaker setups from CF before. They will give you bracket adapters(as well as everything needed to mount them) for speakers that have a "close enough" fit, meaning if it's 5 1/4, and your door cover has enough room to clear a bracket plus the rim of a larger speaker(5&1/4- 6&3/4), they can provide you a larger speaker to use with a mounting bracket. This is what I did on my '11 Pilot with Polk speakers. Turned out amazing. If you are unsure about the exact specifics of the mounting, you can ask about each specific speaker setup. If you have the option, the 6"+ speakers usually offer a better sounding experience.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:57 AM
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Just take it apart and look! Its not going to be some ridiculous new speaker dimensions.
You don't need a wire harness there is 2 wires + and - just twist them together with some electrical tape or get some quick connectors if you want to be really safe. saves you a lot of money
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:07 PM
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Just take it apart and look! Its not going to be some ridiculous new speaker dimensions.
You don't need a wire harness there is 2 wires + and - just twist them together with some electrical tape or get some quick connectors if you want to be really safe. saves you a lot of money
Tis true, I still have the OEM speakers from my EX-L and you have one grey wire and one red wire. If anyone would like a picture of the speaker and its connection let me know. However, I don't know if this is the same as in the lower trims.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:11 PM
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Tis true, I still have the OEM speakers from my EX-L and you have one grey wire and one red wire. If anyone would like a picture of the speaker and its connection let me know. However, I don't know if this is the same as in the lower trims.
Red is ALWAYS power (+) black/grey/brown is ground
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:03 AM
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I would like to see it..
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:10 AM
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Crutchfield recommend a kenwood KFC 1664S which didn't get the best reviews on amazon but also said I need a mounting adapter that fits 2006 honda and up and speaker adapters for 1990 hondas and up..Reading the post I am not sure the wiring adapters will work but don't know if I need the mounting adapter...In my Civic I just bought 6 1/2 and they bolted straight in.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:34 AM
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The reason CF recommends a wire adapter is because of the male connector that is coming from your car door's speaker wire. The adapter allows for plug-and-play functionality. Why would you want to cut these male/female connectors off and make your job more difficult? The speaker kit you buy from CF will come with a female connector. If you're going to do a job, do it right the first time...don't twist wires to complete a connection. Solder the wires together if needed, and use the wire adapters that come with your purchase. I don't have pics of the Accord, but I do have some when I did my Pilot's speakers. They should be exactly the same, but an 1" smaller.

Edit: I guess I don't have specific pics showing the connections, just the build. I though I did though...
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:58 AM
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Crutchfield recommend a kenwood KFC 1664S which didn't get the best reviews on amazon but also said I need a mounting adapter that fits 2006 honda and up and speaker adapters for 1990 hondas and up..Reading the post I am not sure the wiring adapters will work but don't know if I need the mounting adapter...In my Civic I just bought 6 1/2 and they bolted straight in.
CF is usually good with automatically providing the accessories needed for the speaker you buy so it fits correctly. This is shown by you telling them what car you have, and they provide a list of available speakers that will work, along with additional speakers that will work via adapters.
What CF doesn't mention, is that the reason you need a bracket on all speakers is because Honda's OEM speakers are one piece: the bracket and speaker are one solid piece of plastic. That's why you need a bracket, regardless of size.
I believe it said that the speakers on the '13 Accord are 5&1/4, so going up to a 6&1/2 will need an adapter(depending on how the speakers mount). You shouldn't have any problems, but I would still pass on that Kenwood model. Also, unless you have power going to them, they probably won't sound any better since you have the same amount of power trying to fight against a larger, stronger magnet.

You can see here how the OEM speaker(right) is a one piece consisting of the speaker and mounting bracket. The left speaker is a Polk db6501:

Note the magnet size difference. O.O The tweeter of Polk db6501 component setup weighs more than that whole OEM speaker on the right!

I would post more photos of the work on the Pilot, but I'm not sure if anyone want to see them.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:39 AM
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Thanks

That makes sense on the adapter, just wish Crutchfield offered more speaker choices for the front doors.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:39 AM
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an you tell I am nervous about changing my accord But the factory front speaker are pretty bad IMHO
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