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Old 04-03-2009, 07:43 AM
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Does Anyone know what the towing capacity is for a 2004 Accord Sedan 4-Cyl??
Im buying 2 seadoos (jetskis made by seadoo) plus the double trailer that comes with them. I wanna see if i can pull them with my car or if i ABSOLUTELY need a truck.
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oh and weight of the seadoos is about 600 lbs. each and the trailer i still am not sure the of the weight.
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1000 lbs

2 Jet skis on an aluminum trailer will probably bring right to the limit.
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600+600+300(trailer) I think you can tow 1 but not two.
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I tow with one jetski with no problem, i think total maybe like 1200.. I have a Honda Aquatrax
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why would anyone want to tow anything with a 4 cyl?
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why would anyone want to tow anything with a 4 cyl?
Someone who doesn't want to buy a truck/van/SUV to tow their jetski.
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Someone who doesn't want to buy a truck/van/SUV to tow their jetski.
it's very dangerous trying to tow with a 4 cyl, it doesn't provide enough power to go up hill, pulling up on the freeway ram, trying to merge at freeway speed. u could ofcourse, but u risk over forcing ur engine + putting urself in dangerous driving situation .
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Speaking from my past jet ski experience, good luck getting both skis and the trailer off an inclinded boat ramp. I used to have a small blazer 4x4 and it came in handy when the ramp was slick (from the people pulling boats out). Also, you will have to back into the water pretty far most likely dipping the brakes and exhaust in the water each time since the car will be squated down from the incline of the ramp. By the time you pack up the extra fuel, life jackets, tools, etc. you will need a bigger vehicle.

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Does Anyone know what the towing capacity is for a 2004 Accord Sedan 4-Cyl??
Im buying 2 seadoos (jetskis made by seadoo) plus the double trailer that comes with them. I wanna see if i can pull them with my car or if i ABSOLUTELY need a truck.
Thanks
oh and weight of the seadoos is about 600 lbs. each and the trailer i still am not sure the of the weight.
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it's very dangerous trying to tow with a 4 cyl, it doesn't provide enough power to go up hill, pulling up on the freeway ram, trying to merge at freeway speed. u could ofcourse, but u risk over forcing ur engine + putting urself in dangerous driving situation .
I wouldn't recommend towing with a 4-cylinder Accord either, but I don't think there would be an issue if he's not driving in those conditions (up a hill or on the freeway) and follows the recommendation in the owner's manual...

"Your Honda has been designed primarily to carry passengers and their luggage. You can use it to tow a trailer if you carefully observe the load limits, use the proper equipment, and follow the guidelines in this section.

The total weight of the hitch and trailer (with brakes) plus its luggage must not exceed the maximum towing weight.

Max. towing weight
Trailer without brake = 1,102 lbs
Trailer with brake = 3,307 lbs

The 'towbar downward load' should never exceed 50 kg (110 lbs) on 4-cylinder models/70 kg (155 lbs) on 6-cylinder models. This is the amount of weight the trailer puts on the hitch when it is fully-loaded. For a trailer weights of less than 500 kg (1,102 lbs) on 4-cylinder models/700 kg (1,550 lbs) on 6-cylinder models, as a rule of thumb, the towbar downward load should be 10 percent of the total trailer package.

For example, if the trailer and its load weigh 225 kg (500 lbs), the towbar downward load should be 22.5 kg (50 lbs). Adjust trailerís luggage to change the towbar downward load. Start by putting approximately 60 percent of the luggage toward the front and 40 percent toward the rear. With a trailer package of more than 500 kg (1,102 lbs) on 4-cylinder models/700 kg (1,550 lbs) on 6-cylinder models, you may need to adjust the luggage weight toward the rear. Never load the trailer so the back is heavier than the front. This takes weight off your carís rear axle and reduces traction."
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I have experienced when the brakes on the accord started to fade, on a long steep grade. I wasn't even towing or loaded to capacity. I would follow their stated capacity limit. The accord 4 may not have enough engine or enough brakes, other than short hauls.

But there are small sedans and SUV's that can handle 2000-3000lbs and you don't have to get a full truck necessarily.
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Well then, if the 4cyl can tow 1,100 lbs, looking at the SeaDoo website the PWC's weigh between 700 to over 800 lbs (dry weight witout gas and oil, etc.) so regardless of which ones he purchases he would be way over the limit not counting the trailer and extras. He could tow one safely. I towed one back in the day with my old cavalier with no problem but that was when PWC's weighed about half what they do now and the trailer had an extra long hitch so I did not get the car in the water.

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I wouldn't recommend towing with a 4-cylinder Accord either, but I don't think there would be an issue if he's not driving in those conditions (up a hill or on the freeway) and follows the recommendation in the owner's manual...

"Your Honda has been designed primarily to carry passengers and their luggage. You can use it to tow a trailer if you carefully observe the load limits, use the proper equipment, and follow the guidelines in this section.

The total weight of the hitch and trailer (with brakes) plus its luggage must not exceed the maximum towing weight.

Max. towing weight
Trailer without brake = 1,102 lbs
Trailer with brake = 3,307 lbs
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I have experienced when the brakes on the accord started to fade, on a long steep grade. I wasn't even towing or loaded to capacity. I would follow their stated capacity limit. The accord 4 may not have enough engine or enough brakes, other than short hauls.

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Well then, if the 4cyl can tow 1,100 lbs, looking at the SeaDoo website the PWC's weigh between 700 to over 800 lbs (dry weight witout gas and oil, etc.) so regardless of which ones he purchases he would be way over the limit not counting the trailer and extras. He could tow one safely. I towed one back in the day with my old cavalier with no problem but that was when PWC's weighed about half what they do now and the trailer had an extra long hitch so I did not get the car in the water.
If the trailer has its own brakes, then he'd be under the weight limit.
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Oh man.....

so....you have

Jet Skis: 2x 600=1200 lbs
Trailer: 500ish lbs maybe
Gas for each Ski: 50 more lbs
GVWR: 4125lbs
Actual weight:?

You will be overweight and I still haven't found out what the Gross Combination Vehicle Weight Ratio of the Accord is.

If you fill your Accord with people, ski gear, and tow these skis, you will be dangerous on the road. As well, a good trailer will have a 10% tongue weight. That 10% is of the trailer weight, so this case would be around 170 lbs...which is over the allowable tongue weight.

Lastly, when you are trying to pull this weight out of the loading ramp, you are going to be in serious trouble. You need good power and gearing to get these skis out of the water. There will be a lot of stress on the drivetrain while you are trying to do this.

I suggest you get yourself a good vehicle made to do this work. Any small pickup or SUV should do just fine.
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Page 237 of my 03 manual states the the total weight of the trailer and everything loaded in it must not exceed 1,000 lbs. The GVWR is the car plus the trailer. Page 240 then contradicts itself and is probably a general statement for all vehicles which says that any trailer having a total weight of 1,000 lbs or more be equipped with it's own electric brake. It probably should not be in there.

Take the car to U-Haul and they will tell you what hitch you can install on the car and what you can and cannot pull,etc. They are very informative and will not install a hitch that is not meant for the vehicle.

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If the trailer has its own brakes, then he'd be under the weight limit.
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