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Old 07-08-2010, 07:37 PM
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Damage from transmission flush?

A few weeks ago my Dad asked me to change the transmission fluid in his 2007 I4 Accord with 90,000 miles. It was the original fluid. I found this site and learned from searching how it's done. I planned to do the 3 drain/refill method that others have done and use Honda ATF. I bought 9 quarts of ATF from a dealer at $7.11/quart. But my Dad forgot he asked me to do it and just had it done at Jiffy Lube instead. I asked him if it was drained/refilled or flushed and he wasn't sure. I asked because I read on here that flushing can cause problems. I looked at the receipt and it said 7 quarts of Penzoil Multi-Vehicle ATF were used. The total cost was $124. If it was flushed do you think it messed anything up and tore the filter? I'm debating if I should change the filter and fluid just in case. Please give me your input.
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:14 PM
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Stick to honda fluids. Generic is not so good. Flush probably messed up a lot more than the filter. However the damage was probably already done in letting it go 90k.
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:19 PM
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1st) Check your fluid, Some Juffy Lubes are known for scam (they charge for service that they never performed)
2nd) go buy 1 case of Z1, you can do some drain and refill!
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1st) Check your fluid, Some Juffy Lubes are known for scam (they charge for service that they never performed)
2nd) go buy 1 case of Z1, you can do some drain and refill!
That would ****! But it's probably better in OP's case if this is what happened. The thing is, how would you tell whether they did it or not?

I'm with everyone here, go with Honda transmission fluid.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:46 PM
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Z1 will be fine. But Redline D4 would be better. It won't break down as quickly as Z1
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That would ****! But it's probably better in OP's case if this is what happened. The thing is, how would you tell whether they did it or not?
It would be easy to tell since the OP left the factory fluid for 90K. If it's still there it's dark brown to black. If Jiffy put new fluid in there it should be some lighter color.
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^Oops that's a great point cajun. I forgot about the part that fluids change color if they're left in the car for too long. I wouldn't know cuz I already changed mine ATF twice at 46k.
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Last time I drove this car before the trans flush I noticed the gear selector changed gears with a little bit of a "slam". It used to be buttery smooth. Good idea to just change the fluid and filter right away to Honda ATF? or maybe the Penzoil should be okay for a shorter time interval?
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I wouldn't trust Juffy Lube to change a light bulb.
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Stick to honda fluids. Generic is not so good. Flush probably messed up a lot more than the filter. However the damage was probably already done in letting it go 90k.
Read his post. The original fluid was in the vehicle for 90K miles, not the Penzoil fluid. His dad just had that done, so probably no damage was done. Of course the original fluid should have been changed before 90K as well.
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Because your an I4 i wouldnt sweat it. The k24s can have the flush done with no problems, now if you had a v6, then you would have a bit of a problem. Oh and we gotta have a mini meet since theres no one from philly here lol. In anycase, youll be fine. Just make sure they put the right amount in and your good to go
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First, give your Dad a good swift kick to the pants for even driving near a Jiffy Lube. Second, get the Pensoil ATF out immediately and get the Honda Z1 back in. Replace the filter too. Carry on.
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First, give your Dad a good swift kick to the pants for even driving near a Jiffy Lube. Second, get the Pensoil ATF out immediately and get the Honda Z1 back in. Replace the filter too. Carry on.


I wish I could do that to anyone who let Jiffy Lube touch their car.
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1st) Check your fluid, Some Juffy Lubes are known for scam (they charge for service that they never performed)
2nd) go buy 1 case of Z1, you can do some drain and refill!
Some Jiffy Lubes have been known to scam but they're the exception not the rule. The point is to develop a relationship with anyone working on your car in order to develop trust with them. Any auto shop can scam someone

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It would be easy to tell since the OP left the factory fluid for 90K. If it's still there it's dark brown to black. If Jiffy put new fluid in there it should be some lighter color.
When I got my car at ~76k I flushed the trans right away. Fluid was still pretty dark after flushing it I'm assuming because I didn't change the filter and that there was quite a it of varnish and what not since it was probably the first time the fluid was changed. If it's been 90k since the fluid was changed OP might notice a subtle change in fluid, if at all

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First, give your Dad a good swift kick to the pants for even driving near a Jiffy Lube. Second, get the Pensoil ATF out immediately and get the Honda Z1 back in. Replace the filter too. Carry on.
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I wish I could do that to anyone who let Jiffy Lube touch their car.
I work at Jiffy Lube, ya jerks
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When I got my car at ~76k I flushed the trans right away. Fluid was still pretty dark after flushing it I'm assuming because I didn't change the filter and that there was quite a it of varnish and what not since it was probably the first time the fluid was changed. If it's been 90k since the fluid was changed OP might notice a subtle change in fluid, if at all
You're stating that you flushed out all of your old fluid, replaced with new and it was "still pretty dark". So be it if that's what you say, but in my experience the color change is obvious.

My 02's fluid was dark brown at 30K. I replaced < 40% of the total capacity with just one drain + fill and my fluid looked close to new again.
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