CAI or Short Ram

[gatti117]

I currently own a 2008 Accord EX Coupe and want to install an intake. My only question is: What are the pros and cons to having a CAI that extends behind the bumper vs. just one with a heat shield or a short ram intake? What are the benefits and downfalls to each and could you guys recommend one? Def looking for horsepower gains, improved gas mileage, and a nice sound. Thanks a lot fellas.

[AccordV6-271]

Originally Posted by gatti117

I currently own a 2008 Accord EX Coupe and want to install an intake. My only question is: What are the pros and cons to having a CAI that extends behind the bumper vs. just one with a heat shield or a short ram intake? What are the benefits and downfalls to each and could you guys recommend one? Def looking for horsepower gains, improved gas mileage, and a nice sound. Thanks a lot fellas.

Welcome to the site!!!!

There will be very minimal hp and fuel gains. This would mainly be for sounds.....There are threads about this already..If you want to read more, use the search feature.

Im no expert....but id personally use the money on something else....I had to make this choice awhile ago and made the right one by not investing the $250.....your choice tho.

[Deity]

The heat shield doesn't really do much, if you do searches on it. And depends where you live, if you have lots of rain, wouldn't advise a CAI.

[mattchatwin]

I had the AEM cold air and couldn't live with it in Canada....super cold and it was too low...point being if it got wet ands froze no air and it would die. If you're in a dry climate go for it, I love my Takeda Short Ram for my climate though....better sound and gain wise you're not going to see much of a difference (in this case loss over the CAI but very minimal).

[clubsfit]

Originally Posted by AccordV6-271

Welcome to the site!!!!

There will be very minimal hp and fuel gains. This would mainly be for sounds.....There are threads about this already..If you want to read more, use the search feature.

Im no expert....but id personally use the money on something else....I had to make this choice awhile ago and made the right one by not investing the $250.....your choice tho.

you know, I have read this a ton of times, but I can tell you that you DO feel the difference between stock and both the CAI, or SRI. I could even tell the tq curve difference between the 2. Now its' not a supercharger, but if you turn up your radio so you don't hear the difference there is a change... Also, don't worry about hydro-lock bs. either, seems after a ton of research the SRI dynos more, but that is with a fan blowing into engine compartment. I like the CAI for around town stop light to stop light, but the SRI seems to give me better throttle response.

[mattchatwin]

Originally Posted by clubsfit

you know, I have read this a ton of times, but I can tell you that you DO feel the difference between stock and both the CAI, or SRI. I could even tell the tq curve difference between the 2. Now its' not a supercharger, but if you turn up your radio so you don't hear the difference there is a change... Also, don't worry about hydro-lock bs. either, seems after a ton of research the SRI dynos more, but that is with a fan blowing into engine compartment. I like the CAI for around town stop light to stop light, but the SRI seems to give me better throttle response.

Seriously, don't worry about the hydrolock issues?? Buddy, I've had it and have never had an issue with the 3 other cars I've owned with CAI, it's just the design of the car and two things effecticing my setup....lowered car, and cold wet weather. It's something to be careful of, it doesn't mean it effects everybody, but like I said, this was the first car it effected me. I agree on the difference between the two SRI and CAI on feel and performance though over stock, just don't think it matters overall gains if you go SRI or CAI on a normally aspirated V6 between the two. You're talking a few HP on an already decently high HP car.

[clubsfit]

Originally Posted by mattchatwin

Seriously, don't worry about the hydrolock issues?? Buddy, I've had it and have never had an issue with the 3 other cars I've owned with CAI, it's just the design of the car and two things effecticing my setup....lowered car, and cold wet weather. It's something to be careful of, it doesn't mean it effects everybody, but like I said, this was the first car it effected me. I agree on the difference between the two SRI and CAI on feel and performance though over stock, just don't think it matters overall gains if you go SRI or CAI on a normally aspirated V6 between the two. You're talking a few HP on an already decently high HP car.

Right, but what you are describing isn't hydrolock. I have the same issues in WI and because mine is custom, I shortened to hang straight down and not curve to the very front of the bumper. It kept the snow and ice from packing around it and blocking air flow. I think on the V-6 there already is enough tq to run a SRI without noticing the low end drop off, and still get response and high end benefits.

[mattchatwin]

Originally Posted by clubsfit

Right, but what you are describing isn't hydrolock. I have the same issues in WI and because mine is custom, I shortened to hang straight down and not curve to the very front of the bumper. It kept the snow and ice from packing around it and blocking air flow. I think on the V-6 there already is enough tq to run a SRI without noticing the low end drop off, and still get response and high end benefits.

You are correct it wasn't hydrolock per se, but was still an issue with condensation build up...not necessarily water into the engine block but it still is a know issue that can happen.

Nice idea on the mount of your CAI by the way....I think part of the problem with the CAI for our cars (AEM any way) was that it sat horizontal just inside the bumper and on top of the splash panels of the bumper where water can sit and pile up and get ****ed into the engine.

[clubsfit]

yeah, I would get ice build up inside the fender liner, and when I pulled out the filter, was all full of salt, and road grime etc from the ice and snow... Not really a danger, but for sure defeated the purpose of an intake. So now I have mine hanging inside the fender, but not all the way down...

[gatti117]

hey thanks a lot guys i appreciate it. i decided to go with the takeda short ram intake in black. ordered it the other day so we'll see what it's like when i get it installed. Does anyone happen to know if this will void my warranty from honda?

[xJoeMama78]

It won't void your warranty unless it causes an issue, like if you damaged the filter during install and part of it got 5ucked into the engine or if you damaged the MAF during the install. Will the dealer give you crap? Depends on the dealer. My dealer is great and I wouldn't swap out parts before taking it in for service because I know they won't hassle me, but YMMV.

[Drowzee]

Originally Posted by gatti117

hey thanks a lot guys i appreciate it. i decided to go with the takeda short ram intake in black. ordered it the other day so we'll see what it's like when i get it installed. Does anyone happen to know if this will void my warranty from honda?

Just curious, where did you purchase the Takeda SRI from?

[Gosha]

They both add similar power. I though about it back and forth and SRI is the best thing to go with. You have to clean the CAI often due to it catching all the dirt and dust that collects within the bumper area. That will require taking the bumper off and etc. SRI is easy to maintain and gives a little more ummph

[fender4]

By pass valve in line with the CAI

http://www.advancespeedshop.com/inta...e-p-11361.html

MAde by AEM,,, I used one for 200k before the plastic cracked and then I just replaced it with a new one,,,

Ends all Hydro loc issues

[clubsfit]

I am trying to figure out on Takeda intakes, how the SRI makes so much more power than their CAI?? Usually, the CAI would make more, but like half? It almost makes their claims legit, because the CAI is more expensive... Any ideas?