New Engine for 9th gen Accord

[ual2842]

Here is a little tid-bit of info I read from Car & Driver...

"At the top of the line is a redesigned 3.5-liter V-6, which features cylinder shutdown and a two-stage oil pump. With at least 308 hp and 266 lb-ft of torque, this engine delivers more power than Honda’s existing 3.7-liter engine and should yield a fuel-economy improvement of about 10 percent."

Source: http://blog.caranddriver.com/honda-f...inder-engines/

Looks like a BIG increase in power nearly 40HP!

[Deity]

Doesn't take away from the fact that the car is still hideous.

[ual2842]

I will wait to hold judgement before I see the production model and the interior.

[datdude77]

Originally Posted by Deity

Doesn't take away from the fact that the car is still hideous.

If the car isnt far from the current production model minus the foglights, would you consider your current car hideous also? Just Sayin

[luvr_of_vball]

Originally Posted by ual2842

I will wait to hold judgement before I see the production model and the interior.

+1


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[mikeyd914]

i think the car looks awesome minus the front fognights which will definately NOT make it into production, thaat being said, i know it will be a great looking car

[BPearl2010]

Just ****s that after all the mods i have motor to motor it's probably the same as the 9th gen accord.

[datdude77]

Originally Posted by BPearl2010

Just ****s that after all the mods i have motor to motor it's probably the same as the 9th gen accord.

Just think if you added your mods to that motor where your current output would be? Just food for thought. I am more than likely going to trade my lease in early to get the new body style when it comes out.

[glen e]

Originally Posted by BPearl2010

Just ****s that after all the mods i have motor to motor it's probably the same as the 9th gen accord.

they saw your car, j.....

[Markus]

Originally Posted by BPearl2010

Just ****s that after all the mods i have motor to motor it's probably the same as the 9th gen accord.

That's life I guess. Once Honda introduced new technologies it was obvious that bolt-ons to older motors would pale in comparison.

[ShocknAwe]

Too bad they still didn't add a LSD so the extra power is pretty much as good as wasted. Definitely wasted if bolt-ons are applied. And really not much extra torque either. I do wonder what the % loss will be from the crank to the wheels.

Plus DI engines are even noisier. Last thing I want, MORE noise in my cabin, this damn car is noisy enough as it is.

Cant imagine how crappy the interior will be. Finish & touches have gone downhill since 2009 on the Accord Coupe. Then 2012 I test drove when the dealership offered me a "trade up" was, well, sad. Very plasticky compared to mine.

I'm losing no sleep over the extra power.

[Markus]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Too bad they still didn't add a LSD so the extra power is pretty much as good as wasted. Definitely wasted if bolt-ons are applied. And really not much extra torque either. I do wonder what the % loss will be from the crank to the wheels.

Plus DI engines are even noisier. Last thing I want, MORE noise in my cabin, this damn car is noisy enough as it is.

Cant imagine how crappy the interior will be. Finish & touches have gone downhill since 2009 on the Accord Coupe. Then 2012 I test drove when the dealership offered me a "trade up" was, well, sad. Very plasticky compared to mine.

I'm losing no sleep over the extra power.

The reason for the small increase in torque is because a 3.5L cannot create much more torque than this without forced induction. It's all to do with volumetric efficiency. HP figures can go up but torque is pretty close to its max for this size of normally aspirated engine.

[Edaccord08]

well those numbers don't seem right , since they mention 3.7L which is only in Acura line up here what TL does right now .

Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net)

* 280 @ 6200 rpm: TL
* 305 @ 6300 rpm: TL SH-AWD

Torque @ rpm (lb-ft)

* 254 @ 5000 rpm: TL
* 273 @ 5000 rpm: TL SH-AWD

It is better than current 3.5L but not 3.7L , at least not with a spec of 308 hp and 266 lb-ft

The 2.4L they compare CR-V which has one of lowest hp/TQ , a TSX or SI does

201 hp@ 7000 rpm and 170 (lb-ft)@ 4300 rpm

At least the TQ is up a bit which will help with drive-ability .

[Baldeagle]

Uh-Ohhh. The following is a quote from:

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ts-coming.html

“As for the V6 engine, it will replace both the current 3.5-liter and 3.7-liter engines, combining the best technologies of both, including a cylinder deactivation system while gaining direct injection. Honda provided a preliminary, and conservative, estimated power output with 310-hp and 265 lb-ft of torque, with a much stronger torque band.”


Did you catch the including cylinder deactivation system part? Does that mean Honda will no longer make the dual cam lobe VTEC 3.5-liter engine? Will all V6 Honda engines be VCM engines with DI? First a CVT and now POTENTIALLY no real VTEC? Did Honda just exit the performance market? Somebody please tell me Honda will continue to mate the 6MT to a true VTEC V6 engine....please?

[Edaccord08]

With current valve-train layout , they can't have both AFAIK . Unless they can get multiple oil passages in the rocker shafts . What i don't understand is why they don't go to a DOHC layout on V6 . they would get a much better/broader power band with some better emission options (egr ) .

I thought for sure when they would move to DI they would go DOHC too, for space in center of combustion chamber and up (single cam is right down middle of head ,leaves less center space for DI and ignition ).DOHC leaves space right above combustion for plugs, DI etc plus you can add VTC .

We have to wait for more info to see what engine goes were , Honda, Acura, models etc .