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Old 10-29-2012, 01:22 PM
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So I have never owned a new car before my accord. I have about 700 miles on it so far. I think Honda recommends 600-1000 miles for "break-in" of the motor. Is changing the oil early for the first time recommended? Or should I stick to the standard interval? I was just thinking of any metal bits that may be in the oil due to the new engine or is that an antiquated line of thought? I might just be looking for an excuse to get under it an tinker around. I know it wont hurt to do it, but does it really help. Opinions?
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Stick with Honda recommended oil changes. Most manufacturers use break-in oil, and even if a small piece of debris was in the oil from assembly (extremely unlikely) that is what the oil filter is for.

...Honda has paid a lot of good money to some engineers who determined what is best for their cars. I stick with what they recommend, as Honda has to back it.
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What you are thinking was the right thing to do back in the day, first oil change @ 500 to 1000 miles.

With these new cars you want to have first oil change @ the factory recommend interval...look in your owners book or ask your dealer.

For my 10 sedan I did first oil change @ 5000 & have been changing it every 3000 miles with synthetic
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What you are thinking was the right thing to do back in the day, first oil change @ 500 to 1000 miles.

With these new cars you want to have first oil change @ the factory recommend interval...look in your owners book or ask your dealer.

For my 10 sedan I did first oil change @ 5000 & have been changing it every 3000 miles with synthetic
Every 3000 with synthetic??? The oil companies love your line of thinking.....unless you've run some oil analysis tests with someone like Blackstone labs you are throwing money away.
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So I have never owned a new car before my accord. I have about 700 miles on it so far. I think Honda recommends 600-1000 miles for "break-in" of the motor. Is changing the oil early for the first time recommended? Or should I stick to the standard interval? I was just thinking of any metal bits that may be in the oil due to the new engine or is that an antiquated line of thought? I might just be looking for an excuse to get under it an tinker around. I know it wont hurt to do it, but does it really help. Opinions?
Noooo! Do not change the first oil way early. Honda recommends the normal interval. I plan to change my oil when the oil life is around 20%. Honda also states that the oil is special. This has been debated for a long time on web sites like Bob is the oil guy or something like that. I had the factory oil on my 03 analized. The lab said it had larger amounts something which is used to protect and break in a new engine.

I recommend changing the filter with each oil change. I also use Pennzoil platinum. I changed that car's oil around 7500. 10000 was recommend for normal driving which I was doing at that time. My 03 had over 142k miles when I sold it. It used almost no oil, and got 37 mpg for highway driving.

I was talking about Molly. Read this.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/moly-basics/
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Yeah, as others have said, don't prematurely change your oil during the first changing interval. Honda calls it break-in oil for a reason. I wouldn't be surprised if your warranty would be void if a problem comes about, and they knew you changed your oil so early.
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Same here 15-20% oil life. Honda or Napa Gold Filter? I wish the filter were bigger than a lawn mower filter. I have posted elsewhere my results with a Filtermag and drain bolt mag: They work. I'll be putting on my Filtermag when I do the LED DRLs
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As a side note: Is it a canister type or spin-off oil filter? Thanks.
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My plan is to run the factory fill until 5000 miles or so, and switch to Mobil 1 0w20 AFE and I have bunch of Mobil 1 and Pureone oil filters at home from those Autozone oil/oil filter combo sale.

Got the car on 10/05, already have 1800 miles..
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Can't read Dipstick!!!

So I finally did my first oil change today but I am a little bit unsure of something. After I put the oil into the car, I tried to use the dipstick to check the oil level to see if I am under filling or overfilling. However, I can't tell with the dipstick where the oil level ends.

I bought the 5.1 Qt Mobil1 jug and I used the indicators on the side of the jug and poured approximately 4.2 Qt. I know the engine requires 4.3 Qt as stated in the manual but I was afraid of overfilling it. I'm afraid I didn't put enough oil in, but at the same time I don't want to overfill it. Should I have poured more in?

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So I finally did my first oil change today but I am a little bit unsure of something. After I put the oil into the car, I tried to use the dipstick to check the oil level to see if I am under filling or overfilling. However, I can't tell with the dipstick where the oil level ends.

I bought the 5.1 Qt Mobil1 jug and I used the indicators on the side of the jug and poured approximately 4.2 Qt. I know the engine requires 4.3 Qt as stated in the manual but I was afraid of overfilling it. I'm afraid I didn't put enough oil in, but at the same time I don't want to overfill it. Should I have poured more in?

Please help a newbie out!
Why wouldn't you take it to the dealer? They'll usually do the first oil change free of charge. Or at least take it to a mechanic. Oil changes are very inexpensive. You can't gauge the exact amount of oil from the dipstick. That's why you should measure it before pouring it in.
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Why wouldn't you take it to the dealer? They'll usually do the first oil change free of charge. Or at least take it to a mechanic. Oil changes are very inexpensive. You can't gauge the exact amount of oil from the dipstick. That's why you should measure it before pouring it in.
Getting a full synthetic oil change here costs about $60 with a coupon whereas I can get the full synthetic oil and oem filter for $30. That's why I did it myself, but that besides the point. What's done is done and all I can do is go forward and not "you should've measured it before pouring it in." I will probably do that next time.

Anyways, The side of the oil jug have indicators on how much oil is left in the bottle. Like I said earlier, I poured about 4.2 Qt...not sure if it needs more since I cant tell with the dipstick.
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Why wouldn't you take it to the dealer? They'll usually do the first oil change free of charge. Or at least take it to a mechanic. Oil changes are very inexpensive. You can't gauge the exact amount of oil from the dipstick. That's why you should measure it before pouring it in.
That's the worst advice. Take it to the dealer? You know they FVCK shit up at the dealer right?

Just because it is inexpensive doesn't mean it should be done by someone else especially if you are capable. Apparently you are NOT.

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Anyways, The side of the oil jug have indicators on how much oil is left in the bottle. Like I said earlier, I poured about 4.2 Qt...not sure if it needs more since I cant tell with the dipstick.
I filled mine to 4.5 QTS with filter change at 10,500 miles. The oil went up to the middle of the dipstick. The side measurements of the oil cans are usually accurate and is what I used when I've done my past oil changes for since forever.
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So I finally did my first oil change today but I am a little bit unsure of something. After I put the oil into the car, I tried to use the dipstick to check the oil level to see if I am under filling or overfilling. However, I can't tell with the dipstick where the oil level ends.
Were you on a level surface?

1. pull dip stick out
2. wipe it clean
3. reinsert dip stick all the way in
4. pull dip stick back out
5. check oil level.... it should be between min and max

If it's hard to see where it's at, putting it under a light may help.

If you don't see anything, maybe you don't have enough oil. Add some more. Maybe you need all 5 qts.
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Most (all?) manufacturers reccomend changing oill filter every other oil change. Ever wonder why?
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