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Hi,
Wondering if anybody has tried experimenting with tire pressure on the OEM tire(Energy MXV4)? Honda recommends 32 front 30 rear.
Thanks,
Matt
 
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try 40 front and 32 rear.
 
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I thought the max pressure was 35?
 
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Nope, max pressure is 44psi.
 
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I'm game!
Let ya know what I notice.
Thanks!
 
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After MUCH experimentation, while considering both ride and handling, I landed on 34 front 32 rear. Do keep in mind that correct tire pressure is achieved @ 70 degrees F. For each 10 degree drop in temperature the tire will read 1 psi lower.

For instance: you put 32 lbs. into the front tires on a 70 degree day. If you checked the tires the folowing week , with temps. @ 60, the tire would read 31 which is correct for 60 degrees. 80 degrees would yield a tire pressure of 33. Got it?

We all know to check the tires when they are "cold". Cold = 70 F
 
So if average outside temps are 10 degrees, and we want to target 34/32 as our standard, our gauges should read 28/26?

And if we live in International Falls MN (avg temp = -40), our gauge (if still working) should read 23/21?

Seems like that 1 lb per 10 degrees must be adjusted somewhat after you get a long way from 70 degrees....:confused:
 
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There may be a curve for ultra high or ultra low temps.

I've checked mine at 30F and they were down 4 psi from the previous days check at 70F....typical Texas weather variance. At 100 they will be + 3, cold check.

All I was trying to point out is that if someone checks their tires at low temps and fills them to the norm, say 32 or so, they could actually be overfilling them without realizing it.

The cold tire temp being 70F is not from me, it's from Goodyear. Just a good rule of thumb, not an absolute for every possible condition.
 
RTexasF said:
All I was trying to point out is that if someone checks their tires at low temps and fills them to the norm, say 32 or so, they could actually be overfilling them without realizing it.
You mean...someone like me?:headbash:

:roll: (Rushes out the door to let some air out of his tires...)

:stupid:
 
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I1:D
 
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On this last DL trip he put 35 in the tires... it was to try increase the MPG a little.... I didn't really see any difference there.... but I HATED the ride! I like them at 25.
 
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RTexasF said:
TWENTY FIVE? The Ford Explorer debacle revisited! Tire go BOOM!:eek:
Under inflated tire "contributed" to that debacle....... Firestone became a scape goat on that whole deal!!!
The Vehicle was the main culprit!!!
The last count is 8 vehicle rollovers with Michelin.. kinda leaves one :scratch: :scratch:....... Oh and note how you have not heard the media talking about that...
I actually inspected one of the new body style Explorers that had rolled.. The driver was ejected from the vehicle and killed...
The wife was attempting to sue FoMoCo because the air bags did not deploy..... No frontal impact!!!!
A seat belt would have taken care of that issue!!!!!!

I1:)
 
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But my car isn't top heavy... It really feels best. He puts 30, then over a few months they leak to 25 & that's where it feels good.... remember, my driving is all in town where the speed limits are 45 & below. It's checked & added to for the trips. They feel like they grip better when soft & mushy.....
 
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Inspector1 said:
Under inflated tire "contributed" to that debacle....... Firestone became a scape goat on that whole deal!!!
The Vehicle was the main culprit!!!
The last count is 8 vehicle rollovers with Michelin.. kinda leaves one :scratch: :scratch:....... Oh and note how you have not heard the media talking about that...
I actually inspected one of the new body style Explorers that had rolled.. The driver was ejected from the vehicle and killed...
The wife was attempting to sue FoMoCo because the air bags did not deploy..... No frontal impact!!!!
A seat belt would have taken care of that issue!!!!!!

I1:)
The worst part is that Ford insisted on the low pressure(s). I realize that it was a dual problem but I place the majority of blame on the vehicle manufacturer.
 
Hi All:

___I personally run all of my vehicles at 50 + #’s except for the MDX whose Michelin X-Terrains are at 40 #’s. The FE is astounding with the ever present trade off being higher road harshness ...

Tire Pressures

___Another one …
Here are published numbers for Goodyear Tires with a Max Sidewall Inflation Pressure of 35 PSI for vehicles that 'recommend' a pressure below the maximum.

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Dry Macadam Surface
(Stopping Distance in Feet)

2001 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport__20 psi__28 psi__35 psi
Full Depth Tread with ABS_________75.5____76.2____75.8
1/2 Depth Tread with ABS__________69.9____68.1____66.3
Full Depth Tread without ABS______98.3____95.9____91.6

1997 Ford Ranger
Full Depth Tread with ABS_________80.8____78.2____77.6
1/2 Depth Tread with ABS__________79.0____74.8____71.4
Full Depth Tread without ABS______97.8____96.5____94.1

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0.02 Inch Wet Macadam Surface
(Stopping Distance in Feet)

2001 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport__20 psi__28 psi__35 psi
Full Depth Tread with ABS_________79.8____78.5____77.1
1/2 Depth Tread with ABS__________84.7____73.7____81.4
Full Depth Tread without ABS_____111.1___110.2___108.6

1997 Ford Ranger
Full Depth Tread with ABS_________83.8____81.5____79.8
1/2 Depth Tread with ABS__________91.5____89.4____84.6
Full Depth Tread without ABS_____131.9___126.0___118.4

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0.05 Inch Wet Macadam Surface
(Stopping Distance in Feet)

2001 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport__20 psi__28 psi__35 psi
Full Depth Tread with ABS_________80.0____81.1____82.7
1/2 Depth Tread with ABS_________103.7____99.7____92.2
Full Depth Tread without ABS_____118.0___112.2___111.7

1997 Ford Ranger
Full Depth Tread with ABS_________89.7____86.0____81.5
1/2 Depth Tread with ABS_________125.7___118.5___104.5
Full Depth Tread without ABS_____142.9___134.8___125.7

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Specialty snow tires on specific snow conditions are, obviously, a special case, but it has nothing to do with the general behaviour of the average passenger tire in most conditions. It also doesn't cover slush where again, the ability to bring maximum point pressure to bear is more important than a big footprint.

Manufacturers set the vehicle 'recommended' pressure for many reasons besides safety and performance. Remember the Bridgestone fiasco with Ford. Ford recommended a low pressure on the Exploder, because it decreased the chance of rollover (at least partially because you couldn't corner as fast with the sidewalls rolling over :) ). But, that caused the tires to blow out. Bridgestone took the heat, but it was Ford's fault. The tires were rated for higher inflation, and should have been run there.

Most instances now where the vehicle manufacturers recommend lower tire pressures are for comfort.

But, in the vast majority of real world situations you will get better performance and longer tire life by going closer to the sidewall rating. The possible exceptions being mud and some rare snow situations where you are looking more for a snowshoe than a tire. But, Slush, Ice, and Plowed snow all benefit greatly from higher pressure.

What's really bad is when people buy into this 'big footprint' myth and let air out of their tires in the winter :(

I'm not saying to always inflate tires to the sidewall max, but 99.9% of the time you'll do far better to inflate a bit over what's printed on the vehicle. I know many tire professionals who use the '5 Pounds Over' rule on their own cars. IE, if the vehicle manufacturer wants 28 pounds in the tires, they do 33. If the manufacturer wants 32, they do 37.

This has another benefit. It makes sure you don't run under-inflated, because it's ALWAYS far safer to be a few pounds over than a few pounds under.
___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
 
Good info, thanks!

I have something to add to this statement:

"I'm not saying to always inflate tires to the sidewall max, but 99.9% of the time you'll do far better to inflate a bit over what's printed on the vehicle. I know many tire professionals who use the '5 Pounds Over' rule on their own cars. IE, if the vehicle manufacturer wants 28 pounds in the tires, they do 33. If the manufacturer wants 32, they do 37."

I know many that do the same however you must check the max pressure on the sidewall to see if you are still in the safety zone.
For instance the Toyos on one of our cars has a 35psi maximum, the car manufacturer calls for 30psi all around. By inflating this tire to 35 when cold there's a good possibility for a blowout as the tire heats up on the highway and builds 10% more pressure.
 
Hi RTexasF:

___The chance of a blowout at 50 #’s on a 44 # max sidewall tire is between slim and none. Burst pressures are far in excess of 100 #’s on most tires today. In mid-summer, the Insight’s Bridgestone RE92’s (44 #’s max sidewall) are pushing upwards of 65 #’s and do for any number of hypermiling owning Insighter’s.

___Besides faster turn in and much longer tread life, you will receive much higher FE albeit at the expense of a much rougher ride.

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
 
I respect your opinion but there certainly is a reason that the max pressure is printed clearly on the sidewall. I choose to heed the max given.

I do agree with added pressure, to a point, yielding better wear and MPG. Personally I just can't deal with the "beat me up ride" to gain a little better MPG and tire wear. To each his/her own.
 
RTF, I think the max pressure listed on the sidewall is when cold. Thus, when you put in 35 and the max reads 35, it should be fine. However, I do agree that people should be more cautious about tire pressures. Though the blowout risk is probably slim, it isn't pretty when it happens. It's a lot to risk for a few pennies of gas money. In addition, tires are not always guaranteed to be in the best of shape, even new ones. You never know when there is that one tire that is defective, and you fill it to 50PSI...when it blows, good luck.
 
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