Cheap CAI on EBay???

[minituck04]

okay. what do you consider a cai. well go from there. since the pics shown are with v2's but they are by no means cai. since they draw no cold air from inside the engine bay. or maybe your just going by what others tell you. cai draw "cold air" from outside the engine bay. like up front or in the wheel well. are you on here to talk shit or help people. cuz you seem to be a shit talker. also i know this isnt relevant but you should have gone with the type s sway bar.



so you dont think these are the same pics this is a silver car not blue

[abrarster]

Yo dude chill out, nobody's personally attacked you.

Obviously thats not the same V2 as the one shown in the pic by ssvm. The pics you put up are definately a short ram, but the pic put up by ssvm is definately a cold air.

Ya'll two definately aren't talking about the same thing. I guess AEM makes a V2 in both versions, although the only ones I have seen for the 7th gens are cold air. They look nothing like the pics you put up.

And, let him go for the sway bar he got. He also probably should have gotten a Ferrari instead of a Honda, right?

[chanke4252]

So they do make a SRI V2. I have never seen one of those before in picture or in any store. I wish they made those for our cars. I appologize, apparently you were right.

Though, as far as my sway-bar goes, any thicker and my back end would be sliding all over the road due to the fact that the f/r weight distribution has changed a bit with my drop. A lot of oversteer on a fwd car is not a good thing when you are driving on a twisty, single-lane, snow-covered, mountain road at 9k+ ft with no guard-rails in many places, so anything thicker than 19mm (im guestimating) would simply be unsafe with my current setup. As it is now I can swing my rear end out at will while still experiencing no unexpected or unprovoked oversteer. This is about optimal for me. Plus, I can dial in more or less oversteer/understeer tendency using my shock adjustments. If I were to upgrade my front bar, which I probably won't any time soon, then the 17mm bar would be gone in an instant.

[SSMV6]

minituck, the newer K-series engine has the intake in the front of the engine and because there is no room for the V2 to reach behind the bumper. AEM was forced to place the air inlet inside the engine bay, but they put it in a place that would get the most cool air. In the first pic you posted, the RSX (Type-S), there is a windshield washer bottle that is located in the same space a true CAI would've been routed to. In the second and third pics (same engine, different Civics), AEM ran into a similar problem.. There is simply no room for the V2 to reach the bumper area so they are forced to put the air inlet behind the battery (more about this in a bit). But calling a V2 a short ram simply because it sits inside the engine bay is wrong.

Short ram intakes are made to be "short". They are usually the shortest length that's required between the throttle body and the intake tube connectors (crankcase vent tube, MAF, AIT sensor, etc). As you may know, in the design of the V2, AEM used a dual chamber design. This design has its limitations in that the "outer tube" (the end with the filter) cannot have more than one bend and it needs to be a certain minimum length (this is why the 7th gen civics have it inside the engine bay). With regular CAIs, you could have as many bends as you need without a big impact on performance. Besides, why would AEM make a V2 intake that would generate the same/ less power than a regular CAI? The next thing they have to take into consideration is ease of installation. Sure. They could make you relocate the battery somewhere else (trunk maybe) or relocate the washer bottle to the other side of the car (it's been done and there are kits out there), but then it would add cost to manufacturing and cost to the consumer for an already expensive product.



In general, the V2's air inlet is behind the front bumper (aka a true CAI)...

Integra GS-R:


2001 Honda Acord V6:


2003 S2000:



There are exceptions to the rule, but the inlet is placed strategically in a position that would take in the most cool air (aka a makeshift CAI) since it can still pull "cold air" from the hole left by removing the factory intake system... A short ram intake would've ended before the battery, not next to it.

2000 Prelude:



Lemme ask you this question, how much "cold air" could the intake pull when the car is moving?

[chanke4252]

Makes sense, though I still wish they made intakes like that for 7th gen. It'd be nice to have a cai and not worry about hydrolock, however rare it is.

[minituck04]

i can admit when im wrong. but like i had previously stated. i had never seen a cai version of the v2. so now everyone knows that both versions exist. but dude if you dont wanna spend alot of money. that deal on ebay is really good. my .02

[minituck04]

Originally Posted by chanke4252

So they do make a SRI V2. I have never seen one of those before in picture or in any store. I wish they made those for our cars. I appologize, apparently you were right.

Though, as far as my sway-bar goes, any thicker and my back end would be sliding all over the road due to the fact that the f/r weight distribution has changed a bit with my drop. A lot of oversteer on a fwd car is not a good thing when you are driving on a twisty, single-lane, snow-covered, mountain road at 9k+ ft with no guard-rails in many places, so anything thicker than 19mm (im guestimating) would simply be unsafe with my current setup. As it is now I can swing my rear end out at will while still experiencing no unexpected or unprovoked oversteer. This is about optimal for me. Plus, I can dial in more or less oversteer/understeer tendency using my shock adjustments. If I were to upgrade my front bar, which I probably won't any time soon, then the 17mm bar would be gone in an instant.

i live in TX. its hot and flat. besides the one time i had gone to NC i had never seen a mountain or snow for that matter in my whole life. but i have seen 130 deg days

[minituck04]

also i had a cold air but i was afraid of screwing up my motor. so i moddified it and welded it back together. since i do know how to weld aluminum. made it a short ram. but with my stainless header it made the intake a heat sink so defeated the purpose of the intake.

[chanke4252]

Originally Posted by minituck04

i live in TX. its hot and flat. besides the one time i had gone to NC i had never seen a mountain or snow for that matter in my whole life. but i have seen 130 deg days

Driving conditions are a lot different that's for sure. I'm originally from indiana, and I would have no problem with a little more oversteer in those conditions as there's not that danger of flying off a cliff to your doom. On the plus side, with all the snow this year it's pretty easy to tell whether I have an oversteer or understeer tendency, though I'm sure that when I get new tires that it'll be even more an oversteer tendency due to the fact that my fronts are worn a lot more than the rears thanks to the fantastic treadwear that snow-tires offer.

[minituck04]

Originally Posted by chanke4252

thanks to the fantastic treadwear that snow-tires offer.

yeah ive never seen snow tires so i dont know anything bout that subject. but i do get to run summer tires year round. and the only thing you have to worry bout flying off of is a bridge into the bayou. since houstons nick name is the bayou city. and i want oversteer. getting the tl type s swaybar soon. off an 04' is the one that fits my car.