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Hereís the 2020 Sonata. With each generation, Hyundai seems to significantly step up their game. What do you think?


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So they stole the tail light of a civic?

What they really need is to step up their transmission and engine too.

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I like it except for the light bar across the trunk. I want to see rear headroom numbers as well.

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Jury still out on Hyundai quality though. Just a couple of years ago lots of people saying Hyundai/Kia was going to continue eating into Toyota/Honda market share. Turns out they had an amateur hour recall where their manufacturing was leaving debris in the engines, causing the engines to chew themselves up.

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Quick blurb, if you are looking for a larger engine, the Sonata won't have one at this time. The two available Sonata engines, 1.6T and 2.5 not really any better than Honda's 1.5T or old K24, or even Toyota's 2.5;

If there's one thing the new Sonata is missing, it is power, as the two inline-four engines available at launch overlap with each other on the low end of the competitive segment: a 178-hp turbocharged 1.6-liter that carries over from the previous car and a new 191-hp 2.5-liter
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As of now, there's no higher-performance option for the new Sonata, but one is coming in the near future, probably powered by a turbocharged version of the 2.5-liter, and likely to be badged an N-Line model rather than a full-blown N variant.


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Jury still out on Hyundai quality though. Just a couple of years ago lots of people saying Hyundai/Kia was going to continue eating into Toyota/Honda market share. Turns out they had an amateur hour recall where their manufacturing was leaving debris in the engines, causing the engines to chew themselves up.

https://autoweek.com/article/recalls...illion-engines
Well I just bought a new Hyundai for the kids. I doubt it can be less reliable than my Hondas have been.

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Here’s the 2020 Sonata. With each generation, Hyundai seems to significantly step up their game. What do you think?
OT @Baldeagle what’s your take on the Jetta GLI? Saw it’s has a 6 speed and limited slip?

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I had an Elantra many years ago. Used and abused. Among many issues it had, the most annoying one was the windshield washer pump was not working. (turns out corroded connection). Years later I was in a rental Sonata, much newer model year and fewer miles. Guess what: windshield washer pump was not working on this one, either (it was not out of washer fluid). I was driving through snow and really needed it. Super annoying. That was the day my mind was made up about hyumdae.

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Seems to me all cars copy all other cars.

I'm not all that impressed with the 18/19 Accord either for styling. But it is better than some recent years.

Currently Hyundai's have a reputation for spontaneous combustion.
https://driving.ca/hyundai/veloster/...-and-kia-fires

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OT @Baldeagle whatís your take on the Jetta GLI? Saw itís has a 6 speed and limited slip?
I just bought one! It is in my garage now. I have a goodbye post in the 8th gen forum that discusses it a little.

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I had an Elantra many years ago. Used and abused. Among many issues it had, the most annoying one was the windshield washer pump was not working. (turns out corroded connection). Years later I was in a rental Sonata, much newer model year and fewer miles. Guess what: windshield washer pump was not working on this one, either (it was not out of washer fluid). I was driving through snow and really needed it. Super annoying. That was the day my mind was made up about hyumdae.
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One thing that can be said about the 2020 Sonata is that it looks like nothing else in the class, and for me, that's a good thing. I'm not fond of the Civic-like tail lights or the light bar, either, but the overall look is very striking for a family sedan.

I just hope that its driving dynamics are up to par with the best in class, which is something that can't be said about the current Sonata. Even the latest generations (since 2006) have been a half-step or so behind the Accord and Camry in overall character and refinement, particularly in terms of the steering and handling feel, as well as ride. The Sonata has never been quite as engaging as the Accord nor as smooth and refined as the Camry, and has always been sort of the "budget Camry" of the class: reasonably quiet, softly sprung, and generally "good enough" but unremarkable in every way. Even the last-generation Turbo model (2011-2014), while impressively quick, just felt like an old-school muscle car with a powerful engine stuffed into a doughy, softly-tuned chassis.

Hopefully this new one will be more than just a pretty face, and actually be competitive without relying on being the cheapest offering in the class to move units. If it succeeds in doing that, AND offers an engine with respectable power (the base 2.5 and 1.6T just don't cut it for me), I'll seriously consider it as my next car. I can't stand the look of the new Accord, so it's already off my list completely. That basically leaves the Sonata, the Mazda 6, the Camry, and the upcoming Legacy Turbo as my main options in this class. I'm also considering the new Jetta GLI, though I'm not a fan of its looks. I hate to say it, but it looks like an Audi that had a stroke at birth. Other than that, though, it checks most of the boxes without sacrificing much of the practicality of the larger sedans I'm considering.

As intriguing as I find this new Sonata, I'm actually more excited for the new Legacy overall, to be completely honest. It may not be as stylish as this Sonata on the outside, but its interior looks better (IMO), and the 2.4T should easily keep pace with the quickest cars in the class (if its performance in the porky Ascent is any indication). While the Sonata will surely stand out from the crowd (just like the 2011 did when it debuted), I like the "under the radar" aspect of the Legacy. It's very clean and conservative, plus there won't be 50 of them per square mile like the Accord and Camry. There's something about that "exclusivity" that I find appealing.

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