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bradforj287

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Hi,

I experienced something very frightening yesterday with my 2013 honda accord v6. While driving about 40mph in a straight line I suddenly lost power steering. I had the EPS light show on my dash. I pulled over and restarted the car 2 or 3 times before the power steering came back to normal. It hasn't happened since. The sudden massive increase in steering wheel force required when EPS shuts off could potentially be very dangerous and I am now frightened to drive this car.

I brought the car to a honda dealer and they were able to confirm that an error code was logged after the incident:

DTC 71-01 Motor Angle Sensor (SIN/COS Signals)

Unfortunately they were not able to diagnose what the root cause of the above issue is. They followed all of the honda-supplied debugging procedures and ran a full reset & diagnostics on the EPS sub system. They weren't able to find any problems with it and their conclusion that the issue was "intermittent" and that I should continue to drive the car. They made this sound as if it was some freak event that is extremely unlikely to occur.

I noticed several other customers have run into this issue Honda Accord Steering - 2013 HONDA ACCORD Problems With Steering many this happened several times in a row.

It seems like there are 2 possible scenarios at play:

1) this is a symptom of the EPS system beginning to fail. This would imply I am likely to see this issue repeat, eventually resulting in a complete failure of the EPS.
2) This is some known event that occurs with some incredibly low probability. I am no more likely to experience this again vs a brand new EPS system.

It sounded like the dealer thought this was in category 2 (freak event).. If that is the case what is the chances of this happening?? Why have so many customers reported this happening 2 or 3 times in a short timespan?

It seems to me case 1 is the more likely scenario.

What should I do next?
 
I had the same issue. Took into the dealer, they should fix it for you without charge with/without warranty. This is a known issue,
 
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/8.../forums/86-9th-generation/355346-got-my-power-steering-recall-letter-today.html

Are you the original owner of the 2013?

You should have received a letter regarding this problem and the update to the software that allows for 50% (?) assist if the EPS shuts off.

If you are a second owner and use this dealer regularly......

RUN away. These guys sound like idiots. They don't know the problem? They think it's a freak occurrence?

After you read the thread above you'll know what the deal is.

You might want to go here http://recalls.owners.honda.com/service-maintenance/recalls and check for your VIN if recalls were for your car.
 
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guys, i already had the software fix installed on the car. Had that installed a long time ago (i think over a year). That only improves assist in the event of a failure.

Why did this failure occur in the first place? Should i get them to investigate replacing the steering assembly?
 
The troubleshooting guide for this

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/...model=ACCORD&year=2012&trim=&keyword=&dbkey=61T3WD_T001957_enu&country=1&lang=0

If they can not duplicate the issue then they list it as an intermittent failure. I assume if it gets worse they will be able to recreate the issue. I am not saying it is the best way, but there are a lot of things that could be wrong, steering gearbox, short in wiring, EPS control unit, open in wiring and or high resistance connections.


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