That was not what I was trying to say. I was just commenting on some of the people lurking in this thread, myself included, probably shouldn't be complaining about what Honda does/doesn't do when we aren't seriously interested in going out and purchasing a 10th gen Accord within the next few years. UnknownJinX kindly pointed this out."we are not the people who are actually going to purchase new cars" Ummm what? So all the people here and on the other forum joining up, making introductory posts, and showing pics of their new rides and all the members who own multiple Hondas or are repeat Honda customers are Russian bots or figments of my imagination?