Our cars are known as Charge Sustaining Electric Vehicles. As opposed to Charge Depleting Electric Vehicles, like Teslas.Hi everyone. I am a new platinum white 2022 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring owner. This is my first Honda and hybrid vehicle bought 3 months ago. Since then, my vehicle battery is showing below 50% battery. Is this normal or it need attention. Appreciate response.
I mostly cruise on the highway with my accord, should I use ECON or Normal in this case? I almost always use the paddles to slow down and try to build up battery power on the off ramps to switch to ev mode for as long as possible on the streets.Our cars are known as Charge Sustaining Electric Vehicles. As opposed to Charge Depleting Electric Vehicles, like Teslas.
A Depleter's mode of operation is just like a conventional gas car's - you "fill' (or "charge") the gas tank (or battery) every once in a while. Then you drive until it is depleted to some level, and repeat the process.
The HAH is a "Gas Depleter" just like a conventional car, but it tries to "Sustain" the battery near some level. This level depends on whether you drive in ECON, NORMAL, or SPORT mode. The advantage is that the engine is about 30% to 33% efficient when it generates just enough power for cruising, about 20% to 30% efficient while accelerating, but 40% efficient in between.
So what it will do, in NORMAL mode, is over-produce while you cruise. Excess power will be used to charge the battery until it reaches about 5 bars (50%). Then it will turn the engine off, and use battery power only until charge drops to about 3 bars.The two benefits here are that this range is where the battery works best, and where battery wear is least. Of course periods of acceleration, or regenerative breaking, will interfere with this cycle. But they are about the only times you will see the state of charge outside of that range.
You should use whichever drive mode (ECON/NORMAL/SPORT) its your driving style. The biggest difference between them is how quickly the drive train reacts to changes in the gas pedal. I personally keep it in ECON, because adaptive cruise control is smoother; mpgs aren't affected that much. I shift to SPORT if I anticipate the need for speed; but it also alters some of the battery management more than just to change the limits I described before.I mostly cruise on the highway with my accord, should I use ECON or Normal in this case? I almost always use the paddles to slow down and try to build up battery power on the off ramps to switch to ev mode for as long as possible on the streets.
When comparing drive modes, I need something to call the mode mode when neither ECON nor SPORT is selected. Since only one of the three can ever be on at a time, and it has no official name or indicator light, I call it NORMAL. And hope that it will be understood through implication, since you can switch between the other two by pressing the corresponding button, but then deselecting either of them re-enters NORMAL.I hear of Econ/Normal/Sport modes. What/where is "normal"?
Actually, it defaults to whichever of ECON or NORMAL that you used last. It won't default to SPORT, since Honda apparently feels that the driver should know that mode is enabled. So if you last used SPORT, it will default to NORMAL.When I jump in, turn on, the car defaults to "Econ" mode.
It's a different concept, and a confusing one at that.I DO have the EV (if I recall it's name) that I used literally, once, to go to the mailbox. Is that one of the modes?
Ok, so I (think) I followed everything you said....but for this part, BUT, it got me thinking and wondering, so let me rephrase things, to see if you agree that "I get it, though maybe a bit confused"!!Actually, it defaults to whichever of ECON or NORMAL that you used last. It won't default to SPORT, since Honda apparently feels that the driver should know that mode is enabled. So if you last used SPORT, it will default to NORMAL.
Okay, you may be overthinking this. The Econ and Sport buttons are basically toggles. Press once to turn on, press again to turn off. Additionally activating either mode, will turn off the other, since you can't be in "econ-sport" mode. If you shut off the car with Econ mode off, it will start the next time with all modes off (normal mode). If you stop the car in econ, it will start in econ. It is easy to tell which mode you are in. In sport mode, the word sport appears in red in the center of the instrument panel. In econ mode the green leaf appears in the same place. If neither is there, then you are in normal mode.Ok, so I (think) I followed everything you said....but for this part, BUT, it got me thinking and wondering, so let me rephrase things, to see if you agree that "I get it, though maybe a bit confused"!!
If I'm in Sport mode, turn car off, get back in, it "defaults to Econ" mode.
EXCEPT, now you have me wondering. I have presumed it defaults to Econ mode because it is NOT in Sport Mode. This however, doesn't necessarily make that a fact.
So, question.... If I get in car, turn it on, touching nothing else, I am NOT at the moment in "Sport" mode. Is it fair to say that I am ALSO not at the moment in "Econ" mode because I have not pushed that button? That without pressing a button, I am in "Normal" mode UNLESS I choose Econ? Just like I am not in Sport mode, unless I press Sport.
If above is accurate, then how, if you are in Sport mode, do you CHOOSE to go back to Normal? The only two buttons I have are Econ/Sport so those are what I've used (unless EV at the base is what would do that BUT, I am thinking that is NOT the case)
Actually, I just recalled something. I default to whatever turns the car on. (may I call this 'normal'?) Sometimes, I see the green (don't recall what it's called) "EV" light come on the dash, is THAT when I'm automatically out of 'normal' and in Econ mode without having selected the Econ?
You know.... I Do find this a bit amusing. This is a silly car. I go from point A to B in it.... and I read (my own) along with other comments of confusion and lack of understanding on how it works..... it's a freaking car lol. Just get in the darn thing and drive! lol.
I am however, one of those "detail" people in life and like to know how things work. Add that to being naturally a very curious person really gets me diving in deep at times.
No need to respond to anything I ask about unless you want to. I don't want my incessant curiosity and detail mindedness to be as annoying as my wife (daily?) reminds me it can be.
The more I learn about this car, the more I vastly appreciate what and how it does what it does. It is an absolutely amazing difference from the (1984??) Accord I had for years. To say it's a black/white difference is a vast understatement and I know everyone here knows that.