[hikercoast]

UGLY!

That's the only way to describe next generation Accord. Honda has really missed the boat, and should pass on this design until a newer generation is ready!

 

[JeffJo]

New video about the hybrid system:
2023 Honda New 2-Motor Hybrid Powertrain on Accord and CR-V - YouTube

It still looks like the second direct-drive ratio is for towing, not slower speeds, but that isn't clear.

 

[Honda2014]

2019 Ford Fusion:
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2023 Honda Accord:
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It's not an exact match of course but I'm getting "last decade Ford" vibes.

The Fusion isn’t bad. To me it’s one of Ford’s better efforts on family sedans.

That said, I think I’d actually still prefer the 11th gen. overall design.

The rear is certainly better to me. I’m just not sure what Honda’s going for with the front. If you think about it, good or bad, each gen of Accord since 7th gen has been uniquely Honda, especially 7th and 8th gen. You can tell it’s a Honda from a mile away. To a lesser degree, 9th and 10th gen too. I’m not so sure about the 11th gen.

 

[14v6]

Same could be said of the 10th gen as it was a drastic departure from the the 9th gen. It's like the 9th should have evolved into the 11th and the eleventh to the 10th. This 11 gen took the same approach as the Civic, smooth it out a bit. Question is how much did Honda invest in this gen as sedans have been in a decline. Probably better to throw the kitchen sink at the CRV and it remains to be seen how this new hybrid system compares to the competition and its yet to be proven. It's sort of like Honda is becoming Mazda. Everything has the same grille and interior.

 

[Bruce85623]

The new Accord really looks nice, but there's no 2.0t? I'll keep my 2019.

 

[Bruce85623]

Put in the 2.0t and I'll think about it.

 

[Honda2014]

Yeah, same here. It was on my list with the assumption that 2.0t would be offered. Styling here to me isn’t the real issue. I care more about how it drives, performance, reliability and mpg, in that order. Oh well.

I’ll wait until MMC though. I’ll take a PHEV Accord too if it looks promising.

 

[MisterHooman]

Yeah, I'll have to wait and see the new Prius in the flesh before making a final decision as to its looks. That picture does NOT send me. It just looks too space age for me. I like the older styling when cars didn't all look like jelly beans. I like a mix of curves and straight lines/edges.

Toyota is making great strides to make the Prius look better. It's 2 inches lower and 1 inch wider, one model has over 200 horsepower, one model has AWD, glass panel roof with solar charging, traffic jam assist (car will drive itself under certain circumstances).

 

[MisterHooman]

Same could be said of the 10th gen as it was a drastic departure from the the 9th gen. It's like the 9th should have evolved into the 11th and the eleventh to the 10th. This 11 gen took the same approach as the Civic, smooth it out a bit. Question is how much did Honda invest in this gen as sedans have been in a decline. Probably better to throw the kitchen sink at the CRV and it remains to be seen how this new hybrid system compares to the competition and its yet to be proven. It's sort of like Honda is becoming Mazda. Everything has the same grille and interior.

Honda's issue is all their new models are looking the same. And they are all bland.

 

[zroger73]

...traffic jam assist (car will drive itself under certain circumstances).

The newest Honda models including the 2023 Accord also have that feature which basically adds low-speed steering to the lane-keeping assist system similar to how low-speed follow was added to the adaptive cruise control.

 

[longhornaccord]

Toyota is making great strides to make the Prius look better. It's 2 inches lower and 1 inch wider, one model has over 200 horsepower, one model has AWD, glass panel roof with solar charging, traffic jam assist (car will drive itself under certain circumstances).

And some buyers may like all of that. Me, no. I like a more basic car without all the computer controls and nanny features. I like to be the one driving the car, not the car driving me.

 

[MisterHooman]

Even base models these days have the safety feature suite in them. And I do think that's a good thing judging by how stupid some people are these days. Of course, I wish it was harder in this country to obtain a driver's license. Unfortunately, the only requirement is having a pulse.

It's a slippery slope, but computers have been assisting us in driving in one way or another for a while now. Everything since the 90s has been computer controlled... Fuel injection is computer controlled... Nannies have been around since then as well. If your car has traction control and stability control, that's a nanny. Those are computer controlled. Without computers, it's impossible to have high performance cars. You can thank computers for being able to travel long distances quickly and efficiently. Manufacturers have just kept adding more computers since the 90s.

I like the ability for computer assistance when I don't feel like doing something but turning it off when I do feel like doing something. Best of both worlds. I tend to trust computers a bit more than some because my occupation is in the IT sector. Computers are designed to work within certain parameters and nothing more. The computer isn't the dangerous one. It's the programmer that tells the computer what to do that's dangerous.

 

[zroger73]

Honda has really missed the boat, and should pass on this design until a newer generation is ready!

There's speculation that the 11th generation Accord may be the last. The CR-V passed the Accord as Honda's best-selling and most important model several years ago. Sedan sales continue to decline. If I were Honda, I wouldn't have put forth 100% effort into the 11th Accord, either - I don't think there's anything a manufacturer could do to a sedan to lure buyers away from SUVs.

 

[longhornaccord]

2019 Ford Fusion:
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2023 Honda Accord:
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It's not an exact match of course but I'm getting "last decade Ford" vibes.

The old Fusion looks better to me!

 

[LeMaster]

There's speculation that the 11th generation Accord may be the last. The CR-V passed the Accord as Honda's best-selling and most important model several years ago. Sedan sales continue to decline. If I were Honda, I wouldn't have put forth 100% effort into the 11th Accord, either - I don't think there's anything a manufacturer could do to a sedan to lure buyers away from SUVs.

Based on this 11th. generation, I'd say they should have stopped at the 10th., and gone out on a high note. What a shame one of the great car companies will be remembered for such an unmemorable design.
Honda finally lived down to the opinions of all their naysayers.

 

[Honda2014]

Based on this 11th. generation, I'd say they should have stopped at the 10th., and gone out on a high note. What a shame one of the great car companies will be remembered for such an unmemorable design.
Honda finally lived down to the opinions of all their naysayers.

It is, in a way. Some of us had hope that with the 11th G and high hopes in general… I think it’s fair to say we’ve expected a bit too much from this new gen.

With that being said, I’ll reserve my final opinion of this gen until after the MMC for this Accord. In any case, I doubt Honda would throw away a four decade long nameplate just like that. This car, along with the Civic, were Honda’s bread and butter cars for the longest time. They made Honda what Honda is today. Yes, the torch has been passed on to the CR-V, but that doesn’t mean it can’t coexist along with it. If anything, I hope the nameplate lives on, even if it means it’ll only be available as an electric car in the future.

 

[LeMaster]

It is, in a way. Some of us had hope that with the 11th G and high hopes in general… I think it’s fair to say we’ve expected a bit too much from this new gen.

With that being said, I’ll reserve my final opinion of this gen until after the MMC for this Accord. In any case, I doubt Honda would throw away a four decade long nameplate just like that. This car, along with the Civic, were Honda’s bread and butter cars for the longest time. They made Honda what Honda is today. Yes, the torch has been passed on to the CR-V, but that doesn’t mean it can’t coexist along with it. If anything, I hope the nameplate lives on, even if it means it’ll only be available as an ele
ctric car in the future.

Based on past history with the Accord, I had cash in hand, ready to buy my last car. Then they dropped the 2.0 turbo. Now why would I want to pay more money to get a less powerful car???
All the car companies are under pressure to meet government demands for mileage, and that's why Honda wants 50% to be hybrids. As an apartment dweller, I can tell you that does not compute.
Seems my 2019 2.0 turbo will be my last car; at least I have the comfort of knowing it'll outlast me, if need be.

 

[WiiMaster]

Even base models these days have the safety feature suite in them. And I do think that's a good thing judging by how stupid some people are these days.

Keep in mind that a lot of the same people are the ones designing these computers.

The people I've talked to in IT have actually told me quite the opposite, they find themselves trusting computers even less.

 

[Honda2014]

Based on past history with the Accord, I had cash in hand, ready to buy my last car. Then they dropped the 2.0 turbo. Now why would I want to pay more money to get a less powerful car???
All the car companies are under pressure to meet government demands for mileage, and that's why Honda wants 50% to be hybrids. As an apartment dweller, I can tell you that does not compute.
Seems my 2019 2.0 turbo will be my last car; at least I have the comfort of knowing it'll outlast me, if need be.

Oh no, don’t get me wrong. I’m as disappointed as most current 10G / prospective 11G Accord owners (at least, those with/looking for the 2.0t). But that doesn’t mean I’m ready to write off the model that quickly. Certainly not the brand entirety that has so far more than exceeded my expectations for the money I’ve paid for their cars. Does that mean I will get 11G at some point anyway? No, not really. I had expected to possibly switch in a couple years of time, now I’ll for sure keep 10G much longer knowing that the 2.0t has been dropped in the Accord. It’s also a shame that, this also means that likely I’ll have to dump the car before the extended warranty that I just purchased expires, as I’m no longer optimistic in the possible significant reduction in turbo replacement cost that theoretically could result from economies of scale. Oh well.

 

[zroger73]

What a shame one of the great car companies will be remembered for such an unmemorable design.
Honda finally lived down to the opinions of all their naysayers.

It is, in a way. Some of us had hope that with the 11th G and high hopes in general… I think it’s fair to say we’ve expected a bit too much from this new gen.

With that being said, I’ll reserve my final opinion of this gen until after the MMC for this Accord. In any case, I doubt Honda would throw away a four decade long nameplate just like that. This car, along with the Civic, were Honda’s bread and butter cars for the longest time. They made Honda what Honda is today. Yes, the torch has been passed on to the CR-V, but that doesn’t mean it can’t coexist along with it. If anything, I hope the nameplate lives on, even if it means it’ll only be available as an electric car in the future.

Last month, the Accord accounted for only 16% of the total number of units sold (and less than that in terms of revenue). The Accord and Civic together accounted for only one-third (32%) of Honda's total sales.

Ten years ago, the Accord accounted for 30% of sales. The Accord and Civic accounted for over half (52%) of Honda's sales.

20 years ago, sedans and coupes accounted for nearly two-thirds (65%) of Honda's sales.

While the Accord name is memorable and was an important part of Honda's past, it is less important to Honda's future. Fiesta, Focus, Escort, Pinto, LTD, Grenada, Thunderbird, Crown Victoria, Probe, Taurus, Model T, Model A, Tempo, Coutour, and Galaxie were all an important names to Ford at one time. Today, they're mostly irrelevant.

All the car companies are under pressure to meet government demands for mileage, and that's why Honda wants 50% to be hybrids. As an apartment dweller, I can tell you that does not compute.

What is the disconnection between a hybrid and being an apartment dweller?