[wiloz32]

When I got my car it was the last 2013 unit and I got convinced of the extra 4mpg honda claims on the automatic version. Still I'm a car enthusiast and I love driving stick but I decided to give it a shot after all 4 more mpg could hurt, besided the auto trans had Sport mode and paddle shifters after all, just like all these newer sports cars.. I regret it so much, I wish I had the manual version, I dont feel the driver to car connection at all. Other than that I love the car.

I was wondering what are your thoughs on this? Do you guys have auto v6 as well and do you like it? . Is there any advantage of the auto over the MT, unlike others accord, 2013 auto is 6-speed, I even read somewhere it was even 1 tenth of a second faster than the manual ( not a big deal)

 

[SatnSilverAV6]

The performance difference isn't much of a difference when it comes to acceleration. Before, when honda used the 5AT, the difference was a much larger gap. Now they run the same 0-60 time and within a tenth or 2 in the 1/4 mile. I have seen 5.4 for the auto and manual to 60. 1/4 mile times for the auto I have seen 14.1-14.3 @99-102mph. I haven't seen much from the manual yet but it should be an easy high [email protected] I only say this because there was a member that ran a [email protected] in his stock 2012 6MT. We will have to wait until people take them to the track. It seems like real world times are quicker than a lot of the mags. That is from my track exp.

 

[Beatrice]

I do understand not feeling driver connection with the car...I was in your boat when I was looking at the 2014 V6 EX-L. I'm coming from a '07 s2k (which i still have) and honestly didn't want the hassle of a manual for my new daily driver. I went for a test drive with the auto and I fell in love with it. It moves! No regrets purchasing it at all. I did hear the same thing with the auto vs. manual being faster on youtube...not sure if it's a legitimate claim or not? Perhaps someone else can chime in on this one?

 

[newfmp3]

Numbers aren't going to tell the entire story. The manual is just going to respond so much quicker. I like the auto for a nice comfortable touring type ride, but a sports car it is not.

 

[Jaretr1]

I agree there is a disconnect when driving an automatic compared to a manual. Thats on all cars in general. There is much more involved feeling when driving a manual transmission with an actual clutch. Specifically for the Accord, the auto is ok. The paddle shifters are worthless in my opinion. But the transmission does shift quickly and firmly, some actually complain about that. As far as performance, I ran my car in the 1/4 and I did a 14.0 at 98mph (stock). On the highway, I have gotten real world 30 mpg routinely, and sometimes even as high as 32. In mixed which is what I normally do I am averaging about 24. I imagine these numbers are higher than the manual would be. I can feel the car going in and out of 3cyl mode, so that must be having an impact on fuel economy. I bought the auto because I drive in a lot of stop and go traffic and thats when driving a manual became a really tiring. While I miss shifting myself, I dont get nearly as frustrated and tired sitting in traffic now. So for me the tradeoff was the right call.

 

[Blorzoga]

Two suggestions: If you wanted a manual, you shouldn't have let the dealer talk you into an auto. That being said, there's nothing you can do about it now (unless you want to lose a bunch of dough), so enjoy the car, you'll forget about your bad decision eventually. But next time, get what you want.

 

[Bykim5]

I was like the opposite of you.. limited experience with driving a MT but told myself that this was it. Forced myself to get a manual.. Pretty unnerving in the beginning but I'm ok now. Still feeling the car everyday - love that "connection" or w/e. Zero regrets.

 

[newtohonda]

I think if I were going manual I'd stick with the Sport 4 cylinder version as it has quicker steering and the engine by its very nature is more rev friendly. One thing to understand is that straight line acceleration times isn't something you really car about in a manual car, and if you really do care then a vehicle with factory forced induction is something you should be looking at since they had a lot more mod potential. Otherwise, I've spent plenty of years in a manual cars and had my fun in them. I used to really cringe autos since 4 speeds were pretty much all you had in all but the most luxury brands. With the auto 6 in my EX-L V6 I'm pretty happy with it. I wont ever go back to manual unless I'm doing a project weekend warrior car.

 

[hondaguy2582]

Manual all the way. The v6 is more lively with the 6 six speed manual transmission.

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[StreetLethal100]

I came from an 07 6-6 into a new 13 AT6 (both Coupes).

1. The 6-6 had two different intake maps I heard for a bit more usable power
2. I think the 6-6 might have had slightly larger brakes up front (not sure if thats compared to the I4 or the regular V6)
3. The 6-6 didn't have the Eco mode like many of the V6's do. (for me I think the less technology, the less issues for reliability)
4. Does the 6-6

And when you roll up with a car crew, or even some average motor heads, you can hold your head higher with a 6-6. With an automatic, I dont exactly speak up and shout "I have a bomb arz automatic yo". Now with that said, the automatic allows for your female companions to "explore" without causing you to crash!

 

[yanks1]

To me the fun part of a manual is not 0-60, but in the twisties and highway on & off ramps. Nothing like downshifting into a turn and then accelerating out of a turn on back-roads which i drive 75% of the time. But that said, I was hoping if I went with an Automatic w/Paddle shifters I could still enjoy some of that. But someone above stated the Accord paddle shifters aren't any good.. That I don't understand, can't you use them to downshift just like a manual and keep it in that lower gear?

 

[karfreek]

To me the fun part of a manual is not 0-60, but in the twisties and highway on & off ramps. Nothing like downshifting into a turn and then accelerating out of a turn on back-roads which i drive 75% of the time. But that said, I was hoping if I went with an Automatic w/Paddle shifters I could still enjoy some of that. But someone above stated the Accord paddle shifters aren't any good.. That I don't understand, can't you use them to downshift just like a manual and keep it in that lower gear?

You can not recreate that 'pull' you get in a Manual in an Automatic. Its hard to describe. Its just different with a clutch.

Jay

 

[willph]

the 4mpg I think comes from in the auto version, they have cylinder management. shuts off 2 cylinders on hwy or easy driving.
the manual model does not do this.

I got the manual. Loving every minute. Sry to hear about your regret

 

[will2drive]

I'm not all that sure about the Canadian models but I'm pretty sure the American version V6 shut's down 3cyl at highway speeds. I may have noticed this on mine at about a constant 55-60mph.

 

[JacobP]

I believe there are a some reasons, besides EPAs flawed test procedure, why the Accord Coupe V6 with 6MT gets lower MPG.

First, the gear ratios and the final drive ratio are different between 6MT and 6AT. This all adds up to the fact that the topmost gear in the MT car is shorter, so engine will clock higher RPM when cruising on the highway. Next, the coupe body is supposedly less aerodynamic, hurting the fuel efficiency. Finally, the V6 6MT coupe does not have the cylinder deactivation system. The car was obviously designed for fun. I suspect if you don't rev it to the redline all the time, you will get better fuel economy too. Honda should have added the cylinder deactivation though. One simple way would be to make it turn on whenever the driver activates cruise mode.

 

[yanks1]

According to Honda site, Accord Automatic V6 coupe gets 32 mpg vs sedan's 34 mpg; but that's only 2 less mpg vs the I-4 Coupe at 34 mpg

 

[Blorzoga]

I'm not all that sure about the Canadian models but I'm pretty sure the American version V6 shut's down 3cyl at highway speeds. I may have noticed this on mine at about a constant 55-60mph.

I think the Canadian ones only shut down 2 cylinders at highway speeds. Those Canadians just like to be different. Go figure.

 

[Blorzoga]

I believe there are a some reasons, besides EPAs flawed test procedure, why the Accord Coupe V6 with 6MT gets lower MPG.

First, the gear ratios and the final drive ratio are different between 6MT and 6AT. This all adds up to the fact that the topmost gear in the MT car is shorter, so engine will clock higher RPM when cruising on the highway. Next, the coupe body is supposedly less aerodynamic, hurting the fuel efficiency. Finally, the V6 6MT coupe does not have the cylinder deactivation system. The car was obviously designed for fun. I suspect if you don't rev it to the redline all the time, you will get better fuel economy too. Honda should have added the cylinder deactivation though. One simple way would be to make it turn on whenever the driver activates cruise mode.

How do you figure the coupe is LESS aerodynamic? It certainly looks MORE aerodynamic.

 

[newtohonda]

I believe there are a some reasons, besides EPAs flawed test procedure, why the Accord Coupe V6 with 6MT gets lower MPG.

First, the gear ratios and the final drive ratio are different between 6MT and 6AT. This all adds up to the fact that the topmost gear in the MT car is shorter, so engine will clock higher RPM when cruising on the highway. Next, the coupe body is supposedly less aerodynamic, hurting the fuel efficiency. Finally, the V6 6MT coupe does not have the cylinder deactivation system. The car was obviously designed for fun. I suspect if you don't rev it to the redline all the time, you will get better fuel economy too. Honda should have added the cylinder deactivation though. One simple way would be to make it turn on whenever the driver activates cruise mode.

My understanding is that the cylinder deactivation left off the manual has nothing to do with performance, but simply because the ECU would get too confused in activating and more importantly deactivating to prevent engine damage by it activating in awfully wrong gear/throttle/neutral combinations. With overall gas mileage issues, there is no reason they would leave it off if it weren't for technical issues.

 

[JacobP]

How do you figure the coupe is LESS aerodynamic? It certainly looks MORE aerodynamic.

Yes. It may be counter-intuitive, but smaller cars often have more aerodynamic drag. This is why smaller, lighter, less powerful compact cars tend to save relatively little fuel on highway compared to the best of mid-sized sedans.