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I'll honestly admit I'm not a fantastic driver. In my youth I believed I was, particularly in my ITR, that delusion came to an abrupt end when I wrote off my heavily modded WRX trying to 4 wheel drift on bend in the middle of a built up area; I was in my early 20's forgive my idiousy. Since then my only other truly fast car was the 911 Carrera S which was a fantastically awesome beast 0-60 in 4.6secs and on to 187mph.
The crash totally effected my driving style, to what I would consider now as very fast straight line confidence but cautiously quick into and out of corners.
For example being from Europe, I did what all Europeans do when they buy a Porsche, taking a road trip to Germany to visit the Porsche factory and set a lap time on the great nurburgring.. I pumped out a blistering sub 12 minute lap... approximately 3.5 full minutes slower than a Porsche test driver could get it round in
I was nervous, it was my pride and joy and I wasn't writing it off for the sake of a good time.
I'm getting to the point give me chance.
I'm going to say something controversial on a majority US member based forum. American performance/muscle cars in the rest of the world are genuinely considered a joke. Its perceived they do one thing well, they go fast in a straight line. What I have come to realize after my 2 years of living here, is American performance cars are not a joke at all. Your road infrastructure is entirely different to anything I have ever seen before. I work 13 miles away and make 4 turns to get to work, 2 of those are on/off ramps. No twists, banking corners, large 3 lane roundabouts etc. American performance cars completely cater for the US market perfectly. I have a new respect for them. They are very fast in their natural habitat.
European performance mind set is
The Accord v6 has never to my knowledge been released in the UK, we have a range topping 2.2 liter Vtec which is ok-ish and extremely reliable. Why, because the Accord is not supposed to be fast by the EU measuring stick, its too rollypolly for our winding county lanes. However, in my opinion the V6 is an awesome "wolf in sheeps clothing" for want of better words in America. It is fast, I would go as far as to say its really fast, not supercar fast or M5/AMG or v8 mustang fast but apples to apples in terms of approximate money, take the claimed 5.6 second 0-60, which I fully believe, then take what people think is fast a v6 mustang, gti, WRX, v6 camero, ST, speed3 the list goes on, none of these will embarrass it in a straight line or a fairly cornerless road.
All this talk on this forum of the v6 lack of steering feel...so what? The fact that it has heaps of body roll...so what? Its not rwd...so what? I'm not taking it on a track or entering a drift competition, I'm using it as 95% of people do with their cars or even their performance cars, i'm getting from A-B on normal roads quick enough to excite me.
I'm going out on a limb here for fanboi flamage, ego stroker of the year and Mr "I must justify my new car", and I'm going to say, I don't think there is a 2014 car with 4 doors, sub 30k, that actually has safety and semi luxury features that can touch the 2013+ v6 as a package.
In conclusion I think the v6 is a brilliantly, understated, fast car, with plenty of grip and I don't have any issue with it body rolling like a 1990's jeep.
Please feel free to tell me I'm an idiot who just spent way to many paragraphs talking utter rubbish?
but I'm curious if anyone strongly disagrees or agrees.
The crash totally effected my driving style, to what I would consider now as very fast straight line confidence but cautiously quick into and out of corners.
For example being from Europe, I did what all Europeans do when they buy a Porsche, taking a road trip to Germany to visit the Porsche factory and set a lap time on the great nurburgring.. I pumped out a blistering sub 12 minute lap... approximately 3.5 full minutes slower than a Porsche test driver could get it round in
I'm getting to the point give me chance.
I'm going to say something controversial on a majority US member based forum. American performance/muscle cars in the rest of the world are genuinely considered a joke. Its perceived they do one thing well, they go fast in a straight line. What I have come to realize after my 2 years of living here, is American performance cars are not a joke at all. Your road infrastructure is entirely different to anything I have ever seen before. I work 13 miles away and make 4 turns to get to work, 2 of those are on/off ramps. No twists, banking corners, large 3 lane roundabouts etc. American performance cars completely cater for the US market perfectly. I have a new respect for them. They are very fast in their natural habitat.
European performance mind set is
- Handling
- 0-60
- 1/4 mile
- looks
- bhp/torque figure bragging rights
- bhp/torque figure bragging rights
- 1/4 mile
- 0-60
- looks
- Handling
All this talk on this forum of the v6 lack of steering feel...so what? The fact that it has heaps of body roll...so what? Its not rwd...so what? I'm not taking it on a track or entering a drift competition, I'm using it as 95% of people do with their cars or even their performance cars, i'm getting from A-B on normal roads quick enough to excite me.
I'm going out on a limb here for fanboi flamage, ego stroker of the year and Mr "I must justify my new car", and I'm going to say, I don't think there is a 2014 car with 4 doors, sub 30k, that actually has safety and semi luxury features that can touch the 2013+ v6 as a package.
In conclusion I think the v6 is a brilliantly, understated, fast car, with plenty of grip and I don't have any issue with it body rolling like a 1990's jeep.
Please feel free to tell me I'm an idiot who just spent way to many paragraphs talking utter rubbish?