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03-07 Spec D rear and Godspeed front camber arms? Is that a good choice here?
I'm not sure about the front. Depending on the coilovers you might be able to adjust the front camber. As for the rear IMO, I would go with TruHart. Given the headlights I purchased from Spec D the quality in longevity is a bit questionable..Redline 360 where I got my coilovers and rear camber kit.
 

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I'm not sure about the front. Depending on the coilovers you might be able to adjust the front camber. As for the rear IMO, I would go with TruHart. Given the headlights I purchased from Spec D the quality in longevity is a bit questionable..Redline 360 where I got my coilovers and rear camber kit.
Ah, I tried checking to see if I could with the Tien Flex Z coilovers, the website says it either comes with reinforced rubber upper mount or a pillowball upper mount. Pillow ball upper mounts are for strut suspensions and include front camber adjustment.

It doesn't specify if it will come with the pillowball upper mount or the reinforced rubber one. So... I might need to just wait and see. Best bet I think will be to buy the coilovers and then see what they come with. I'll look for the truhart rear camber kit. Thanks!
 

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incorrect


also incorrect.

plus, truhart sucks.
Everyone has their opinion and I am only speaking from experience. Once I installed my coilovers I had major camber in the rear. I adjusted them according to the alignment screen. If this is something you haven't experienced that's cool but there isn't a wrong answer when giving advice through personal experience. I took your advice on how to find my coilovers lol
 

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Everyone has their opinion and I am only speaking from experience. Once I installed my coilovers I had major camber in the rear. I adjusted them according to the alignment screen. If this is something you haven't experienced that's cool but there isn't a wrong answer when giving advice through personal experience. I took your advice on how to find my coilovers lol
@ThirstTrapGodTony at the end of the day your money your car. Use every piece of knowledge you gain and make your choice. Weigh your options and do your research. It's how we learn! My car sits on yonaka coilovers. If take pride in the name your parts rep then do that. Mine is a daily/budget build.
 

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The Tien struts for the 04-08 TL and 03-07 Accord are literally the same part number. However, the Accord front struts use a slightly different mount design, the Tien struts can fit both, but you’d need to use Accord top mounts on struts designed for the TL.
TSX suspension is slightly different, but still fits if you change the bushings or something?
What do you mean I'll need to use accord top mounts on struts designed for the TL?
 

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Ah, I tried checking to see if I could with the Tien Flex Z coilovers, the website says it either comes with reinforced rubber upper mount or a pillowball upper mount. Pillow ball upper mounts are for strut suspensions and include front camber adjustment.

It doesn't specify if it will come with the pillowball upper mount or the reinforced rubber one. So... I might need to just wait and see. Best bet I think will be to buy the coilovers and then see what they come with. I'll look for the truhart rear camber kit. Thanks!
the accord doesn’t have a macpherson strut front suspension and thus doesn’t have a pillow ball upper mount with adjustable camber

Everyone has their opinion and I am only speaking from experience. Once I installed my coilovers I had major camber in the rear. I adjusted them according to the alignment screen. If this is something you haven't experienced that's cool but there isn't a wrong answer when giving advice through personal experience. I took your advice on how to find my coilovers lol
camber (to a point) is fine, toe kills tires. you could have left the camber as long as the toe was reasonably close to spec.

What do you mean I'll need to use accord top mounts on struts designed for the TL?
the accord and tl have different upper mounts
 

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camber (to a point) is fine, toe kills tires. you could have left the camber as long as the toe was reasonably close to spec.
When I go to get my alignment after all of this, At what point would you say is the camber is not "fine" if not in spec?

the accord and tl have different upper mounts
Well yes I get that, but he said that accord top mounts are needed for struts that are designed for the TL. It's not making sense to me because why would that be? I know that the accord 03-07 and tl 04-08 have similar parts that are interchangeable, but wouldn't TL top mounts be for struts that are designed for the TL?


the accord doesn’t have a macpherson strut front suspension and thus doesn’t have a pillow ball upper mount with adjustable camber
Crazy. That's a new word I've never seen, but I get it lol. Hopefully a camber kit isn't really needed here and I can just deal with a slightly off camber, but if it is I'll find out soon enough I'm sure.
 

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The strut and mount are two different components of the suspension. As far as consumers are concerned, for all intents and purposes, aftermarket struts are functionally and physically the same for the TL/Accord but the mounts themselves are different. If you ask Honda, you'll get different strut p/ns for the two cars because they're built to account for the differences in weight (etc.) between them. If you ask the aftermarket they'll give you their same p/ns because aftermarket parts are built to handle a wider range in weight (plus other factors) to account for cost savings and warehousing. The struts are interchangeable and will "fit" and function between both cars (despite being "designed for" the Accord or TL) as long as you swap mounts.

Rear camber kit; check alignment after the suspension is installed. If you're way out of spec then grab a kit, if you're close enough then forget about it.
 

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The strut and mount are two different components of the suspension. As far as consumers are concerned, for all intents and purposes, aftermarket struts are functionally and physically the same for the TL/Accord but the mounts themselves are different. If you ask Honda, you'll get different strut p/ns for the two cars because they're built to account for the differences in weight (etc.) between them. If you ask the aftermarket they'll give you their same p/ns because aftermarket parts are built to handle a wider range in weight (plus other factors) to account for cost savings and warehousing. The struts are interchangeable and will "fit" and function between both cars (despite being "designed for" the Accord or TL) as long as you swap mounts.

Rear camber kit; check alignment after the suspension is installed. If you're way out of spec then grab a kit, if you're close enough then forget about it.
You had me but then lost me there. So.. Accord and TL top mounts are different because of the weight differences. If I ask the aftermarket, they will give me the same part#'s because aftermarket parts are built to handle wider range in weight AKA HONDAS AND TLS in this case.

So I'm still not understanding, are the honda top mounts not good here because they are not made to handle the weight differences when changing to aftermarket struts? And that's why I need TL top mounts? Because TL top mounts are made to account for them and therefore have no problem with the Tien Flex Z struts??
 

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You had me but then lost me there. So.. Accord and TL top mounts are different because of the weight differences. If I ask the aftermarket, they will give me the same part#'s because aftermarket parts are built to handle wider range in weight AKA HONDAS AND TLS in this case.

So I'm still not understanding, are the honda top mounts not good here because they are not made to handle the weight differences when changing to aftermarket struts? And that's why I need TL top mounts? Because TL top mounts are made to account for them and therefore have no problem with the Tien Flex Z struts??
Struts and top mounts are two separate parts.
The top mount attaches the strut to the car.
The Accord and TL use the same (mostly) struts, but different top mounts.
If you wish to install TL struts on an Accord, you must attach the TL strut to an Accord mount.
Aftermarket struts (like the Tien flex) use a top mount that fits in both the Accord and TL, to save money.
Tien struts come with top mounts.
 

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I circled the top mounts in the two diagrams below for the Accord and the TL (item#7 in both diagrams). The difference is that the Accord uses 5 studs for mounting vs 6 on the TL, additionally the studs are mounted in different patterns between the two cars. So for the mounts, it's not a matter of one being "better" than the other but that they are physically different and not interchangeable with each other.

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It's kind of a non-issue for you if you're going with the Tein setup since the Tein mounts are designed to work with both cars interchangeably anyway.
 

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OP I do understand that this isn't what you want to do but here is an example what you may run into when changing you ride height. I don't know how much of a drop this is but here it is. He has already done an alignment and tires are wearing on the inside. The front are like that as well from being on the rear. I only did a half inch drop on mine and through experience this is what I chose to avoid. When I did my alignment and looking at the computer reading, there is a natural camber but not to the point where it is excessive. Camber correlates with toe. Camber changes, toe changes. As far as the type of coilovers and features, weigh your options. I was going to get the Tein but by the time I had the funds. They were sold out at every website I knew of. So I went with Yonaka. Of course, I checked out reviews on YouTube and other people's experience with them as well as the Tein.
 

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OP I do understand that this isn't what you want to do but here is an example what you may run into when changing you ride height. I don't know how much of a drop this is but here it is. He has already done an alignment and tires are wearing on the inside. The front are like that as well from being on the rear. I only did a half inch drop on mine and through experience this is what I chose to avoid. When I did my alignment and looking at the computer reading, there is a natural camber but not to the point where it is excessive. Camber correlates with toe. Camber changes, toe changes.
over how much time/how many miles?

also if he did an alignment why is he burning through tires? that car is higher than mine in the front and like 1/4-1/2" lower in the rear...

eta: fwiw, my 240sx has something like 6+° of camber in the rear and doesn't wear through tires like that- that's a tire that's toed out, not a camber problem (or not specifically due to camber)
 

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over how much time/how many miles?

also if he did an alignment why is he burning through tires? that car is higher than mine in the front and like 1/4-1/2" lower in the rear...

eta: fwiw, my 240sx has something like 6+° of camber in the rear and doesn't wear through tires like that- that's a tire that's toed out, not a camber problem (or not specifically due to camber)
I will check his alignment whenever he replaces tires. Regardless of the matter, only going by what I have experienced and seen.
 
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