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walhaddi

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I was going home and I saw this 2009 Ford Mustang with the best light output. I then saw the same car after 3 days. I knew the driver lived around my house, so I followed him. WHen he stopped I asked him "Did you change the bulb or you installed a HID kit?" The guy said "No, everything is stock from FORD."
I didn't know the mustang came with HID, but after visiting the website I guess he wasn't lying.
I asked him if he knew if the his HID is what temperature, but he didn't know. He told me most likely its a 6000K. but I am 100% + that an Acura stock HID kit with a 6000K phillips bulb won't look like his. His didn't even look like the BMW 4300K. It was so white and had a SILVER touch to it. Just beautiful. I don't like the purple or blue color some HIDs have.
I still would like to findout what bulb, ballast the mustang has. They are beautiful.
Let me know if you can findout because i researched it and found nothing.
 
The reason why the mustangs HIDS are so "white" is because they are not in a projector. The temperature is still around 4300-4600k. I know for a fact that no OEM hid is 6000k unless someone can tell me otherwise. When a hid bulb is in a projector its is still white but the projector makes it have a yellow hue to it. And the purple and blue is from the cutoff. IE Flicker of blue and purple that you see on luxury vehicles. i cant find any information on who manufacture the HID ballast and bulb for the mustang but i can bet its Osram or Philips. Well heres a link for you to look at
http://www.azooptics.com/Details.asp?NewsID=3553
 
sylvania bulbs are present on almost 90% of ford cars is all i know. no clue about the mustang specifically. but, i bet they use the Silver star high perf bulbs ( maybe sylvania UltraVisions too) for the 2009 ford models. you try getting on a mustang forum? problem is the model started in 2005, so who knows if the last 09 uses same bulbs as the 05s. the 2010s are prob totally different set up altogether. gl

dennis ho is prob right, 2010s use the newer Osram bulbs, but article says osram worked with sylvania. so, i bet the previous models used sylvania like i thought. on Wayne carinis tv show on disc hd, he mentioned ford uses sylvania bulbs since forever. thats the info i am basing my theory upon.
 
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So you think they are so white and silver because they don't have a projector? You sure? because ALL the Accord Sedan on this forum that got only a HID kit look like crab to me. The light is just bluish or has this purple haze to it that makes it look very cheap to me.
I think you are wrong, because my friend has a 2003 Acura TL which has HID lights without projectors and his don't look close to the mustang.
You got to see it to know what I am talking about. Its so white and silver, it just sticks out very nicely. I hate to ask the guy again what year his mustang is. I don't like asking people lots of questions if I don't know them. But if I can findout what year his mustang is, then I can go to a dealership and findout what brand hid HID kit is and what bulb is uses.
By the way, for the person that says they are the SILVERSTAR bulbs, you are completely wrong.
This is what I found so far:
http://www.steeda.com/products/ford_oem_HID_upgrade_kit.php
Notice how the headlight got the chrome light shield. May be that got to do with the light being silver? I really don't know though. I really want the Mustanf stock HID kit so bad.
 
bro, i do not own a ford. sorry i was wrong about the specific bulb type, but I was right about the brand, which is all that matters anyhow. so hah! there are probably 100k types of bulbs from sylvania alone, you get the idea. i am not going to do all the work for you, anyhow, you are welcome.
 
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bro, i do not own a ford. sorry i was wrong about the specific bulb type, but I was right about the brand, which is all that matters anyhow. so hah! there are probably 100k types of bulbs from sylvania alone, you get the idea. i am not going to do all the work for you, anyhow, you are welcome.
ok......thank you bro. I will do the work for myself
 
It was so white and had a SILVER touch to it. Just beautiful. I don't like the purple or blue color some HIDs have.
I still would like to findout what bulb, ballast the mustang has. They are beautiful.
Let me know if you can findout because i researched it and found nothing.
You know, a different ballast won't make the bulb emit light of a specific color temperature. If you want something without blue or purple hint, you might want to check out 5000K bulbs from Retro Solutions. I have them running with 35W ballasts from DDM Tuning, and it's been working perfectly. I can't emphasize enough how VERY PURE WHITE the color is.
 
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You know, a different ballast won't make the bulb emit light of a specific color temperature. If you want something without blue or purple hint, you might want to check out 5000K bulbs from Retro Solutions. I have them running with 35W ballasts from DDM Tuning, and it's been working perfectly. I can't emphasize enough how VERY PURE WHITE the color is.
Take a picture of the light if you don't mind. The mustang light wasn't just white, but it had this SILVER haze to it. Its almost like that LED bulb from PIAA
 
The reason why the mustangs HIDS are so "white" is because they are not in a projector. The temperature is still around 4300-4600k. I know for a fact that no OEM hid is 6000k unless someone can tell me otherwise. When a hid bulb is in a projector its is still white but the projector makes it have a yellow hue to it. And the purple and blue is from the cutoff. IE Flicker of blue and purple that you see on luxury vehicles. i cant find any information on who manufacture the HID ballast and bulb for the mustang but i can bet its Osram or Philips. Well heres a link for you to look at
http://www.azooptics.com/Details.asp?NewsID=3553
The cutoff shield creates a colourful cutoff due the diffraction of light about the shield. It will not change the colour of the light below the shield.

The projector headlight will not necessarily change the colour of the light, with the exception of the cutoff line, of course. In theory the lens of the projector could cause a colour shift but I've yet to come across one.

You're right about OEM and 6000K bulbs.
 
dennis ho is prob right, 2010s use the newer Osram bulbs, but article says osram worked with sylvania. so, i bet the previous models used sylvania like i thought. on Wayne carinis tv show on disc hd, he mentioned ford uses sylvania bulbs since forever. thats the info i am basing my theory upon.
No OEM fits Sylvania Silverstar as standard. They don't have the longevity of other bulbs and they certainly don't produce any more light.
 
there are a lot of aftermarket headlight kits for the mustang that have projectors. nicest one i saw had dual projectors one on top of the other, plus a led strip like in the audi...and it was only $119 for the set. those cars are so damn mod friendly
 
The Mustang HID is the newer D3 type. Ford's headlamp manufacture is aligned with Osram, so those would have a manufacturer's specification of 4100k, just like previous D1 and D2 series bulbs of the same manufacturer.
 
Take a picture of the light if you don't mind. The mustang light wasn't just white, but it had this SILVER haze to it. Its almost like that LED bulb from PIAA
Will do tomorrow. Though I'm not sure what you mean by "silver" haze.
IMO, silver is just a shiny gray with high level of reflectivity and no color at all. :dunno:
 
Take a picture of the light if you don't mind. The mustang light wasn't just white, but it had this SILVER haze to it. Its almost like that LED bulb from PIAA
Sorry about the delay walhaddi. Here is one of my headlights.
I should mention that the color, surprisingly, didn't get distorted by the camera, so it looks just as it does in real life.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but there is no auto manufacturer in existence that has factory HIDs with a Kelvin temp above 4800k.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but there is no auto manufacturer in existence that has factory HIDs with a Kelvin temp above 4800k.
I believe the standard is 4300K
 
All Osram/Sylvania xenon bulbs (D1S, D1R, D2S, D2R, D3S, D3R, D4S, D4R) are 4300k

Philips D1S, D1R, D2S, D2R are 4300k, D3S, D3R, D4S, D4R are 4800k

GE D2S, D2R are 4200k, whether they will be in the D3, D4 market I have not looked into yet

Philips and GE both make bulbs outside these ranges, however they are not supplied as original equipment
 
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