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Took my 9th gen in to get an oil change and tire rotation.

Service writer says that at 30k miles, I was suppose to have the brake fluid changed as part of the maintenance schedule.
 
Brake fluid is supposed to be every 3 years as per the manual, so if you got your car when the 2013's came out in 2012 you are just about due. I think I paid about 110 with a coupon for this service.
 
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Car was purchased in Feb 2013 and has just over 50k on it.
 
@primetime: Is there a question here?

You don't bother to put your location under your User CP, so I can't help you.

But for others, brake fluid is hygroscopic- it attracts water and THAT will ruin your ABS system, rust brake lines, cause a failure in the seals, and reduce braking ability.

Brake fluid should be changed every 2-3 years, regardless of mileage. More like 2 years if you live in an area with high humidity, or if you live in an area like San Francisco or Denver where you may use your brakes a lot. The heat/cool cycles wear down the brake fluid's ability to do its job.

If you ever autocross your car with regular brake fluid inside- that fluid is done. Change it out immediately as it reached its limit.

Chicago has high humidity for a couple of months in the summer- so I change mine out more often than what the manual calls for. As a matter of fact, I disassemble, clean, and re-lube my brake hardware every year due to road salt....so I change the fluid each year too. Keeps the brake caliper bleeders (10mm) in top shape.
 
We change brake fluid and antifreeze on our bikes every 2 years, no mileage involved.

For what DOT3/DOT 4 cost it is really a no brainer and even if you pay 100 bucks it is well worth that price.

On my brake thread I show a picture of 2 year old fluid it is not pretty. Also I use a turkey baster to remove old fluid BEFORE doing the flush. Not sure if a garage will do that or not? I clean the reservoir with anything clean and lint free I can get into it and then fill with fresh fluid to start the flush. Farthest wheel away from the master cylinder first then the next, and next and next.

Always used sealed bottle and never try to keep it.

Also you will see water droplets in the cap of the resevoir so wipe and clean that well.
 
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Forgot to update this thread. Brake fluid was changed a month ago on the 13. On the next oil change, I will have the dealer do a transmission flush.

For the 2009, it has 60,000 on it. I bought it over 3 years ago with 18k on it. I plan to have the dealer perform the following services ASAP

-Brake Fluid flush - $74.95
-Coolant Flush
-Oil Change (currently at 15%, but don't feel like making 2 trips)
-Transmission fluid flush - $89.95
-Tire rotation

I have a coupon for $110 for oil change, tire rotation and coolant flush and a 10% off coupon for all maintenance labor.

So I'm looking at $258.41 for the above. Cabin filter and air filter done. Front and rear brakes are good, but I will have them:

Inspect tie rod ends, steering gear box and boots.
Inspect suspension components.
Inspect drive shaft boots.
Check parking brake adjustment.
Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS).
Check all fluid levels, condition of fluids and check for leaks.
Inspect exhaust system.
Inspect fuel lines and connections.
Inspect drive belts
Inspect PVC valve

That should cover it.
 
I have a '98 Accord LX with 4 wheel ABS,and I haven't changed my fluid in I don't how long....Today I just purchased a 2013 LX with 22,xxx miles on it...Should I have the brake fluid flushed ??
 
OP,

The risk you take paying the dealer to "flush" the brake fluid is they may only take out most of the fluid in the reservoir, fill it back up and call it a day, you would never be the wiser that they had NOT flushed the old fluid out of the brake lines and calipers....

So IF you are getting the dealer doing this job, make sure you tell them you want the brake lines and calipers flushed out also, that's the proper way to bleed/flush brake systems.
 
I have a '98 Accord LX with 4 whell ABS,and I haven't changed my fluid in I don't how long....Today I just purchased a 2013 LX with 22,xxx miles on it...Should I have the brake fluid flushed ??
It doesn't matter which car, it's up to you to decide.

It's always good to flush out brake fluid every few years for the reason mentioned above by RickBlaine, however it doesn't mean the brake system will suddenly fail catastrophically the next day because you haven't flushed the brake system for 3 years.

The deterioration will be a slow process, so it's up to you to decide when you feel you want to get this done.
 
For those who want A DIY brake/clutch fluid change procedure these gravity drain procedures from the S2000 forums work fine:

DIY: Clutch Bleed (Gravity Method) - S2KI Honda S2000 Forums
DIY: Brake Bleed (Gravity Method) - S2KI Honda S2000 Forums

I have used both of these procedures on my car and gravity drain takes longer but does do a good job and only requires one person. As long as you keep the master cylinder topped off and never let it go dry there is no danger of introducing air into the system. I used about 1 liter of Pentosin DOT 4.
 
We change brake fluid and antifreeze on our bikes every 2 years, no mileage involved.

For what DOT3/DOT 4 cost it is really a no brainer and even if you pay 100 bucks it is well worth that price.

On my brake thread I show a picture of 2 year old fluid it is not pretty. Also I use a turkey baster to remove old fluid BEFORE doing the flush. Not sure if a garage will do that or not? I clean the reservoir with anything clean and lint free I can get into it and then fill with fresh fluid to start the flush. Farthest wheel away from the master cylinder first then the next, and next and next.

Always used sealed bottle and never try to keep it.

Also you will see water droplets in the cap of the resevoir so wipe and clean that well.
The perfect brake fluid post.
 
As with any maintenance, I applaud anyone asking questions as to whether a service is needed or not. There are (in my opinion) money grab tactics used to scare people into services they don’t need at the time they are prodded to do so.
While there are a million brake fluid arguments as to when it needs to be flushed, my complaint is when you had a brake fluid flush done, then 6 months later they want to replace your brake pads and the fluid could have waited to be flushed then. So ask, “When will my car need brake pads?” If they say 10-20k miles, you might make an educated decision to do it all then.
Fresh brake fluid is nearly clear. As it ages and/or absorbs water, it will begin to go from amber, to yellow, to brown. While color can be argued about not being an indicator, it certainly can give evidence if the fluid has or hasn’t been changed if you purchased the vehicle used. There are brake fluid test strips and now inexpensive electronic devices to test the brake fluid for how much water is in the fluid. I’d do these things before committing to a strict 3 year interval.
 
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