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Only way to turn off very temporarily is start with a "break tourqe", hold the brake for a second and hit the gas. ex: ~ 17:35 in this review.One of my only gripes with the 11th gen Accord is the simulated gear shifts. I should be able to turn this feature off. Since this is just software, I should be able to disable it. It doesn't serve any function outside of trying to give the illusion that it has a transmission. Moreover, if I were to disable this function, would it void the warranty?
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Yes, that is my understanding, have not given it a try.. and yes, I tend to be a bit lacking when it comes to proofing my typingNice - I like this review. I will go back and watch the whole thing but this guy seems to be getting similar good vibes from this car (nice taut suspension, feels almost European and quite Premium, etc)
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Curious, why do you think it’s not quite there? You pretty much get everything on the Touring.It's confusing when people say CVT. Honda Hybrids have something very different that Honda calls eCVT. I wish people would not equate it to previous CVTs they have driven. It's not comparable imo. I like Honda's hybrid drive system. I hope to move to the G11 Accord hybrid or probably Civic hybrid. For the price tho, the G11 Accord Touring is not quite there for me..
Well, I think the term CVT for most people just means 1 speed transmission. It doesn’t necessarily refer to the internal design of the transmission like having belts and pulleys compared to the Honda eCVT which has none of those things.It's confusing when people say CVT. Honda Hybrids have something very different that Honda calls eCVT. I wish people would not equate it to previous CVTs they have driven. It's not comparable imo. I like Honda's hybrid drive system. I hope to move to the G11 Accord hybrid or probably Civic hybrid. For the price tho, the G11 Accord Touring is not quite there for me..
If I were Honda I would use a different term. I don't get the sense that anyone LIKES or PREFERS a CVT. It seems like it's always like yes, its a CVT but it's not THAT BAD as some of them in terms of droning and rubber band feel on the transmission. I would call this something sexier, like Electromotive Hybrid Drive or something. The marketers can think up something. But why would you want to be associated with CVT at all....Well, I think the term CVT for most people just means 1 speed transmission. It doesn’t necessarily refer to the internal design of the transmission like having belts and pulleys compared to the Honda eCVT which has none of those things.
Honda has done a great job with their CVT‘s IMHO. Unless you got the pedal floored trying to gain speed at maximum acceleration, you wouldn‘t even know it had a CVT.If I were Honda I would use a different term. I don't get the sense that anyone LIKES or PREFERS a CVT. It seems like it's always like yes, its a CVT but it's not THAT BAD as some of them in terms of droning and rubber band feel on the transmission. I would call this something sexier, like Electromotive Hybrid Drive or something. The marketers can think up something. But why would you want to be associated with CVT at all....
Dynaflow was a very different kind of transmission than a CVT. It was pretty much like a torque converter.CVTs have been around for at least 70 years. My grandfather had a 1955 Buick with a CVT that GM called "Dynaflow." No simulated shifting.
No it doesn't have a transmission. I just don't like the feeling of a fake transmission. It hurts the cars real world performance.Technically, I believe the Hybrid has no transmission at all. And, I'm with the OP - I think the simulated shift and engine sounds SHOULD be eliminated. I suspect anything that could modify the ECM could do this. There is a device called Forscan that can do these kinds of things with Ford vehicles. Is there any similar device for Hondas? If I wanted to hear my vehicle, I'd drive a Harley. And, if I wanted shifts, I'd sit in a rowing machine.
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Dynaflow was a very different kind of transmission than a CVT. It was pretty much like a torque converter.
I'm still confused on this point though.....when we put our foot down on the hybrid, and that "tach needle" which is really the power meter does a quick "swing" down and up pretending that it just "shifted", I know we HEAR a change in sound and we SEE that needle move, but is the POWER actually decreasing momentarily? Or is the power constant where it should be based on the pedal being depressed without change, and all we are getting is a fake change in sound and a corresponding visual change on that meter to make our brains think we are witnessing a shift just like we are used to seeing on a tachometer with a regular trans?No it doesn't have a transmission. I just don't like the feeling of a fake transmission. It hurts the cars real world performance.
I'm still confused on this point though.....when we put our foot down on the hybrid, and that "tach needle" which is really the power meter does a quick "swing" down and up pretending that it just "shifted", I know we HEAR a change in sound and we SEE that needle move, but is the POWER actually decreasing momentarily? Or is the power constant where it should be based on the pedal being depressed without change, and all we are getting is a fake change in sound and a corresponding visual change on that meter to make our brains think we are witnessing a shift just like we are used to seeing on a tachometer with a regular trans?
I wouldn't brake torque a car I own. The 5 to 60 time is more of a representation of real world performance because I didn't buy the car to hot rod it. The 5 to 60 time is slower than previous generations of Accord hybrids due to the silly simulated shifts.Only way to turn off very temporarily is start with a "break tourqe", hold the brake for a second and hit the gas. ex: ~ 17:35 in this review.
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Technically, of course this Hybrid has transmission. It's not direct drive. The rotation of the drive wheels is not the same as that of an electric motor or an internal combustion engine. So it must have transmission. It doesn't matter what it's called - eCVT in this case to distinguish it from the typical CVT. They are not at all similar, except that they perform the same task: continuously variable transmission. And this hybrid has three types of drive: EV, Hybrid, ICE in overdrive plus regenerative braking. So this transmission has to connect them to one pair of drive wheels - very clever.Technically, I believe the Hybrid has no transmission at all. ...
Ok but there is no "fluid" anywhere right? So nothing that I need to serviceTechnically, of course this Hybrid has transmission. It's not direct drive. The rotation of the drive wheels is not the same as that of an electric motor or an internal combustion engine. So it must have transmission. It doesn't matter what it's called - eCVT in this case to distinguish it from the typical CVT. They are not at all similar, except that they perform the same task: continuously variable transmission. And this hybrid has three types of drive: EV, Hybrid, ICE in overdrive plus regenerative braking. So this transmission has to connect them to one pair of drive wheels - very clever.
