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Hi folks. Ive decided to create this threadfor my Accord. I always try and take the road less travelled & always do my own work unless I dont have the time or resources to do it.
I always tried to take pics whenever I was adding or taking something off but couldnt always. I want this thread to be here to help my fellow 7th Gen guy that might have a question. Feel free to ask me anything about what I have done so far. I feel blessed to have been given the chance to bring my Accord to the level its & relish in knowing some of the knowledge Ive gained can help the next guy. I got into tuning about a year ago now & will be updating the thread as I go to finish the Accord.I will be tuning it myself on KPRO. Happy Modding!


My Turbo K24a4 Accord Thread




2003 Accord EXL

I bought it January 07 as a "daily driver I would leave bone stock" Well we all know that never lasts! I soon bought an AEM CAI for it & it was downhill from there. I ended up putting a few other mods on it & dynoed roughly 151whp/157ftlbs on a DynoJet dyno.

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Here are some pictures of it through the years , as well asthe mods it had when it was NA & the mods currently.

NA Mods:
DIY Intake
Coolant TB Bypass
Neuspeed Shortshift Kit
Corsport Shifter Bushings
TSX IM
TSX 6 Speed Transmission
Hondata IMG
Exedy Stg 1 Clutch
Ebay 7.5lb Flywheel
Ebay Rear Camber Kit
Ebay Header
Ebay Coilovers
Ebay Test Pipe
Ebay Exhaust Piping
350z pre-muffler
Magnaflow Muffler
Ingalls Front Camber Kit
NGK Wideband AF Monitor
JDM S2K 6spd Knob
8000k HIDs
18" G35 Wheels/ 225 40 18 Tires

Current Mods:
Coolant TB Bypass
Neuspeed Shortshift Kit
Corsport Shifter Bushings
TSX IM
TSX 6 Speed Transmission
Exedy Stg 1 Pressure Plate (higher clamping force than ACT HD Plate)
ACT 6 Puck Sprung Clutch Disk
Ebay 7.5lb Flywheel
Ingalls Front Camber Kit
Jpower Rear Camber Kit
Ebay Coilovers
Ebay Test Pipe
RSR Catback Exhaust
NGK Wideband AF Monitor
JDM S2K 6spd Knob
8000k HIDs
18" G35 Wheels/ 225 40 18 Tires
Greddy Turbo Kit 6psi
Goodridge Oil Lines
HKS BOV
Garrett Boost Gauge
KPRO - PNF ECU
CHAM KPRO Harness (modified by me)
RSX-S AF Sensor

First Mod! - Replaced stock 16" wheels w 05 Civic Si 16" Wheels

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Blacked Out The OEM Headlights & added an AEM CAI

Install wasnt too bad but I did have to remove the bumper.
Consisted of clips mainly, 10mm bolts & phillips screws.

Tools Need:

Phillips Screwdriver
Flat head Scredriver
10mm Ratchet with extensions

Use flathead to install couplers and to remove the plastic pins securing the bumper

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April 2007 - 18x7 TSW Wheels - 205 40 18 Tires - Lowered on Neuspeed Sport Springs

Install required :
Jack
Jack Stands
spring compressors
17mm impact socket
17mm Wrench
12mm Wrench (I believe, for top but on shock)
14mm impact socket
Allen head for top of shocks

Install was about 3-4 hours because I was drinking beer

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September 2007 - Converting from 5Spd 4.4FD to TSX 6spd 4.7FD

Had a local shop owner take the tranny apart to make sure it was in tip top shape. It was!! Many thanks to the guy who shipped me the 2005 TSX transmission from NY to TX & gave me a great deal!

Install :

Advanced-
If youre not well versed in mechanics & have done transmissions before, then dont try this lol. I took the plunge simply because all the local shops wanted $1200-$1750 to INSTALL ONLY.

After doing the work, I see why they would charge that.
Just look at the pictures to see the work involved :p

Had a local shop owner take the tranny apart to make sure it was in tip top shape. It was!! Many thanks to the guy who shipped me the 2005 TSX transmission from NY to TX and gave me a great deal!

NOTE: After taking about a week to adjust to the lightened flywheel, I don't even notice it anymore. I drive in traffic too & its fine. Im just used to it. I love the acceleration too.

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Also replaced the broken pickup it came with

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Hondata IMG Install

Install:

Moderate. You have to get in some weird angles to access some of the bolts

Extensions, 10mm socket, 12mm socket, 12mm wrench.

NOTE: I left the lower intake manifold bracket off and left it off. Its been 3 years now & have no issues

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Comparisons between the TSX & Accord injector base.

I did this to settle some curiosities as to whether there was a difference in them in regards to power. I was able to measure about a 2mm difference in the TSX injector base. No difference in the runner diameter between the 2

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Off Road Suspension Upgrade :p
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Minor wire tuck work
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done
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ASA AR1 Wheels. 18" 205 40 18 Tires
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Later I went with AP1 S2000 wheels since I managed to curb check all the previous ones and crack 1

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here comes the BOOOOOST

I am running an RSX Greddy Kit Modified to fit the Accord of course. Running upgraded feed & return line
Due to this I had to drop the subframe quite a bit to be able to pull the pan as to let me tap it for the return line
Total Install Time: 20 Hours

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After tuning on emanage at 6.5psi, I went from emanage to FIC.
Heres a clip when I was on emanage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYgCp1eJlc4

12/26/09 Motor Blows up

Returns with ARP head studs, cometic head gasket & ACT 6 Puck Clutch disk
Thanks to my boy's shop VIKTEK that handled the work when I was too busy AT work

Fresh k24a4 w/ appx 40k on the clock

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Installed an RSR Catback Exhaust and Blitz Dual Turbo timer

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Told you Furple!

If I ever do get the chance/money/know how to go boost, I'd definetely do this setup, with the TSX transmission.

Did you have to use the RSX head to make the turbo work?
 
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Told you Furple!

If I ever do get the chance/money/know how to go boost, I'd definetely do this setup, with the TSX transmission.

Did you have to use the RSX head to make the turbo work?

K series are all the same so I used the complete 115k Accord k24a4 motor (block and head). Only modification that was done to the turbo kit was the downpipe and the charge piping. I had to remove my metal bumper under the bumper cover due to the large intercooler. Ill prob be going to a smaller one down the road as I do want that metal bumper on there.

Its actually not that bad since you can use your stock "J" pipe from the stock header. Mine hooked right up to my exhaust.

I would say stay 5 spd if going boost. Itll help with traction.
I initally planned on staying all motor but saw that I wasnt making much power with all the bolt ons so I went boost.




6/13/10 KPRO UPDATE



Ok so I finished installing KPRO, I took lots of pictures and spent 4 hours sorting, adjusting and editing all of them as to make some sort of sense. For those always wanting to know the process , well here is mine. Mine was a bit different than everyone else's Kpro install because my harness did NOT come with the VTC- and VTC+ wire ready to be ran into the engine bay.

Cham told me on the phone he was trying something new on mine that may or may not work. Well it didnt work 100% but did 50% :)

The reason behind the hurdle is simply this: The Accord uses a BODY GROUND for the VTC Oil Solenoid, while the EP hatch and RSX use an ECU GROUND

I tried splicing wire B23 (vtc -) into wire A4 (ecu ground) but it didnt work. My only other option was to run B23 (vtc -) straight to the solenoid. This ended up working.

I also setup a ground at the passenger floor board which would allow me to go back to stock a lot easier than having to mess with the VTC solenoid plug in the bay since its a tight squeeze full of sharp edges(see bloody hand picture)


After getting everything running, my RSX-S sensor ended up going bad in a day (free used sensor) so I may be going with a 2004-2005 Civic D17 sensor that I hear is a direct connect to the Accord harness (no having to solder finicky o2 sensor wires!)

Ill let the pics do the explaining. Feel free to ask away if I missed anything.






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I read about someone who used the RSX head on his Accord's K24 because the RSX's head had i-VTEC on the intake and exhaust valves, as opposed to our K's, which only have i-VTEC on the intake side.

How much do you think you're putting down? The one I read about put down 301 whp, 310 wtq.
 
@chemik did you lose your ability to use A/C since the intercooler goes in the location of the condenser
 
have u dyno on boost ? and whats ur psi?
i love how everyone asks "how much psi, or how many pound of boost?"

it does not matter really. 5 psi on a td04-13c is not the same as 5 psi on lets say a evo 16g, or a holset he1.

a better question would be, hey what turbo are you running & how much cfm does it produce.

sorry, didnt mean to single you out.
 
I applaud you for doing the turbo correctly! :notworthy

A guy I (kinda) worked with a while ago effed up his 6th gen Accord with a "custom" turbo set-up; he put it on his slushbox Accord which ended up shifting real weird. I think he even tried to reprogram his ECU to run with the turbo but I don't think he could get it to work properly.

The guy was bragging about his turbo set-up and was even challenging another co-worker, who had an EVO IX, that he'd beat him in a drag race. I don't think he ever raced the EVO though; talking to the EVO owner, he told me, besides his ECU issues, his turbo was way too big for his set-up (apparently, boost kicked in way too late). Not only did he have a horrible turbo set-up, he did some kinda hack job to his bumper to make the "custom" intercooler piping fit. It looked terrible: the sides bulged out, the bumper sagged a bit, and cuts he made to his bumper opening were unprofessionally jagged. I don't know too much about turbo set-ups but talking to the guy and asking him questions, he didn't seem very knowledgeable about it. I know someone else helped him install his turbo but I don't think they were too savy on turbo's either.

Needless to say, he's now driving around a Mazdaspeed6; I guess he couldn't get his turboed Accord to work properly so he went with a car with a stock turbo set-up...

If you don't mind me asking: what is the final price tag for all your current mods???
 
BEAUTIFUL CAR. I have to say my favorite look is the civic SI wheels. Stock look but different. Still have those wheels?
 
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@chemik did you lose your ability to use A/C since the intercooler goes in the location of the condenser
Intercooler is behind the bumper cover so I didnt lose any accesories.

have u dyno on boost ? and whats ur psi?
and if you get the chance sound clips please :D
I havent dynoed yet but will soon.

I applaud you for doing the turbo correctly! :notworthy


Needless to say, he's now driving around a Mazdaspeed6; I guess he couldn't get his turboed Accord to work properly so he went with a car with a stock turbo set-up...

If you don't mind me asking: what is the final price tag for all your current mods???
Ive spent around $3k for the performance mods. Thanks


Did the speedo is giving you the correct reading? I read on another forum that it will skew the MPH reading... :dunno:
Its about 14% off . I found an $80 unit that can correct this though

BEAUTIFUL CAR. I have to say my favorite look is the civic SI wheels. Stock look but different. Still have those wheels?
Sold em long ago :p
 
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Im back guys. New Motor , new tuning system!
 
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