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Same problem with my 2012 Accord EX!
Clock issue beginning January 1, 2022
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We have a 2010 honda accord ex-l. We also purchased a year or two ago the navigation 2020 DVD update, and regardless we still have the same issues described throughout this thread...
I'll be watching I'd anyone figures anything out, or if we're just stuck with a junk clock...
I'll be watching I'd anyone figures anything out, or if we're just stuck with a junk clock...
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I have a 2012 with navi, noticed this thread and thought I would check. Didn't leave the key on long, just enough for the nav to get location plus a few minutes. Date and time appear to be correct.
Car has the original nav disc
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lol nope. The nav unit must sync date and time at certain intervals. Had the car running today, at some point in the 30 or so minutes it decided it is 2002.
Car has the original nav disc
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lol nope. The nav unit must sync date and time at certain intervals. Had the car running today, at some point in the 30 or so minutes it decided it is 2002.
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Yes mine is doing the same thing,
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2007 Accord Touring with navigation and latest disk installed Feb. 2021. Purchased new no repairs or modifications and it advanced the clock one-hour New Year's Day, 2022. Cannot change the date or time through the system. Removed the disk, cleared the system using the three left buttons held down together and using that menu. Reinstalled the disc but problem is still present. Tried a number of other things but no luck. Next move will try clearing the system and installing a previous disk but doubt that will work as the problem must be with the system and 2022.
Hopefully the 2022 disk will have a fix.
Hopefully the 2022 disk will have a fix.
Also from the same CRV Owners thread, expect a possible fix in August.Y2K22 Bug
The best explanation as the likely cause is from CR-V owner’s club member CRV-32.
“It hasn’t been in the news much but yesterday the date was written by many computers as 2201010001 (YYMMDDHHMM).” said this 2007 Honda CR-V owner.
“Many older computers that store the date this way cannot handle any number bigger than 2147483647, so as soon as the year began with a 22, it fails and can no longer register the date/time correctly.“
“I can’t prove this for certain, but the timing is not likely to be coincidence. It’s basically like the millennium bug on a smaller scale.“
“The same issue wrecked some Microsoft email servers yesterday too.”
See: Microsoft Exchange year 2022 bug in FIP-FS breaks email delivery
“It is ultimately a hardware and software issue, so I doubt Honda will roll out a fix for vehicles that are this old. Happy to be corrected if this is not right, but the timing and the fact that it has started to affect many cars at the same exact time means it’s likely to be the root cause IMHO.”
Buried in the CRV link posted by @001326
The following explains why I have trouble with email at work too !!!!
Microsoft Exchange Server suspends mail delivery due to date check problem (handling) (January 2, 2022) | BIGLOBE News - Newsy Today
Microsoft Exchange Server suspends mail delivery due to date check problem (handling) (January 2, 2022) | BIGLOBE Newswww.newsy-today.com
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So I was actually in my car at 6am EST (was in South Florida) and drove it all day long until midnight to Northern Ohio. My wife 1st noticed the time change around 6pm, if that makes any difference. I know at 6am the clock was CORRECT.
It was some time around 6-8pm that the clock error happened. Not sure if that helps figure a fix or not.
It was some time around 6-8pm that the clock error happened. Not sure if that helps figure a fix or not.
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My 2011 Accord EL-X has same issue
This is actually a GPS Epoch issue. Going into the "hidden" diagnostic menu on Sunday, I discovered the GPS date was now "May 19, 2002". That date was exactly 1024 weeks ago (1024 = 2^10) We jumped forward an hour due to May being in daylight savings time.
I very much doubt new map DVD will fix issue, since last one came out a couple years ago.
This is actually a GPS Epoch issue. Going into the "hidden" diagnostic menu on Sunday, I discovered the GPS date was now "May 19, 2002". That date was exactly 1024 weeks ago (1024 = 2^10) We jumped forward an hour due to May being in daylight savings time.
I very much doubt new map DVD will fix issue, since last one came out a couple years ago.
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there's gonna be a lot of people either late or early til then !!!!!
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Figured this would be the case. Many GPS devices only work on a single 1024 week span and will no longer show an accurate date once the week count rolls over, regardless where that roll over falls.
Absolutely this would be fixable with a DVD update. The disc also contains software/firmware updates for the Navi system, Honda has been using the software update to prevent piracy of the maps DVD for years. They simply haven't bothered to correct this issue, also according to the Honda website, the 2021 DVD is the last update that will be released for this system, so there wont be a 2022 disc anyway.
"Me too..." my 2012 Accord EX-L with navi exhibits the same symptoms. This is definitely a bug, not a hardware failure.
So if the fix will be available in August (as others have indicated), that probably coincides with the annual release of the map updates -- and why Honda customer service is giving that date.
But I'm questioning if there WILL be an update, because with the 2021 update, there was this disclaimer: "This 2021 Map Update will be the final map update release for this system and will be available while supplies last."
Source: Honda Navigation 2021 White DVD Map Update for U.S.
With the 2013 model year, the navigation system generation changed. I don't know if 2013 and later models are affected by this bug or not; everything I've read so far seems to indicate 2012 and earlier. So 2013 and later will get updates in August, but will 2012 and earlier get updates? I don't have high hopes.
And even if they do relent and ship an update in 2022, it will most likely cost you -- the regular price of the update is $149 (but sometimes they've sent out emails offering a $99 price).
So if the fix will be available in August (as others have indicated), that probably coincides with the annual release of the map updates -- and why Honda customer service is giving that date.
But I'm questioning if there WILL be an update, because with the 2021 update, there was this disclaimer: "This 2021 Map Update will be the final map update release for this system and will be available while supplies last."
Source: Honda Navigation 2021 White DVD Map Update for U.S.
With the 2013 model year, the navigation system generation changed. I don't know if 2013 and later models are affected by this bug or not; everything I've read so far seems to indicate 2012 and earlier. So 2013 and later will get updates in August, but will 2012 and earlier get updates? I don't have high hopes.
And even if they do relent and ship an update in 2022, it will most likely cost you -- the regular price of the update is $149 (but sometimes they've sent out emails offering a $99 price).
Someone on the Odyssey forum contacted Honda on the issue as well.
They're saying that the engineers have said that they expect the problem to resolve itself automatically in August, but they are working to see if it can be solved sooner.
They're saying that the engineers have said that they expect the problem to resolve itself automatically in August, but they are working to see if it can be solved sooner.
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Same issue here...2007 EX-L navigation, noticed the problem on January 2nd and read every thread I could find for a fix. Car also shows 2002 as the year in the calender screen and when I try to manually adjust the clock, it resets the adjustment to 12:00 but does not save. Found the secret menu, tried setting it there but it doesn't save there either and also shows 2002. All the diagnostic checks in that menu were fine.
So then I disconnected the battery, entered the codes, and it reset to 1:00pm (it was 12:33 or so at the time). So now instead of 1 hour fast, it is 27 minutes fast and after reading this thread, I might just try this again just before 1pm someday to see if I can get lucky and have it reset to around the right time.
Only other issue here is that I've noticed the nav screen takes 5-10 minutes to recognize itself after the battery is disconnected. I noticed this when I changed the battery earlier last year, I got a red script screen saying it had lost signal and will take some time to reconnect. If I can figure out a way for it to reconnect in a predictable time I'm going to try this while waiting for the August fix, or a new disc, or any other permanent fix that might hopefully come out?
BTW I bought the car in 2012 and have never replaced the disc. So it's either 2011 or 2007 I'd say.
Has anyone tried disconnecting the battery to see where the clock resets to?
So then I disconnected the battery, entered the codes, and it reset to 1:00pm (it was 12:33 or so at the time). So now instead of 1 hour fast, it is 27 minutes fast and after reading this thread, I might just try this again just before 1pm someday to see if I can get lucky and have it reset to around the right time.
Only other issue here is that I've noticed the nav screen takes 5-10 minutes to recognize itself after the battery is disconnected. I noticed this when I changed the battery earlier last year, I got a red script screen saying it had lost signal and will take some time to reconnect. If I can figure out a way for it to reconnect in a predictable time I'm going to try this while waiting for the August fix, or a new disc, or any other permanent fix that might hopefully come out?
BTW I bought the car in 2012 and have never replaced the disc. So it's either 2011 or 2007 I'd say.
Has anyone tried disconnecting the battery to see where the clock resets to?
This is very much the GPS rollover issue that a firmware fix could resolve. (My 2006 Accord EX-L diagnostic mode also states 21 May 2002 (1024 weeks ago) as the GPS reading.)
What I don't understand, though, is why did it occur now? For the "standard" GPS epoch (starting 6 Jan. 1980), the rollover occurred in 2019 and the next isn't until 2038. And I also don't understand why the other manual adjustments no longer work. I get that May is in DST, so the clock jumped ahead an hour. But why does the Clock Adjust time get stuck at 12:00 and why don't any of the adjustments work? Strange indeed.
Maybe we'll all get lucky and "week 0" is a test case for use in the factory and next week all the manual adjustments will work again!
This:This is very much the GPS rollover issue that a firmware fix could resolve. (My 2006 Accord EX-L diagnostic mode also states 21 May 2002 (1024 weeks ago) as the GPS reading.)
What I don't understand, though, is why did it occur now? For the "standard" GPS epoch (starting 6 Jan. 1980), the rollover occurred in 2019 and the next isn't until 2038. And I also don't understand why the other manual adjustments no longer work. I get that May is in DST, so the clock jumped ahead an hour. But why does the Clock Adjust time get stuck at 12:00 and why don't any of the adjustments work? Strange indeed.
Maybe we'll all get lucky and "week 0" is a test case for use in the factory and next week all the manual adjustments will work again!
Clock Fault - [Merged Master Thread]
...by August? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ thats ridiculous Its a start. It could have been longer. It could be sooner. Think glass half-full.
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2012 EXL w/ nav same problem.
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