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Contraty to "filbert", another source suggests changing the filter first. This allows you to put your filter into your catch pan for draining before it's full of oil.
(Wish I'd learned this before the time the filter slipped out of my hand and splashed into the full drain pan.) :lmao: . . . wasn't funny at the time.
 
Chris_B said:
Here's one alternative to the Fram plug...

Fumoto Valve

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I'm not sure how well it fits on the Accord but I might try one out.
I've got that on our Corolla and it works like a charm. I didn't go for it on the Accord because it's considerably lower and an extension is required. Too close to the ground for me to feel comfortable.
 
The plug on the 7th gens are horizontal... adding one of these valves will limit how much oil can come out. It's probably just a few ounces, but I'd rather get as much of the old oil out as possible.
 
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n1accord said:
Contraty to "filbert", another source suggests changing the filter first. This allows you to put your filter into your catch pan for draining before it's full of oil.
(Wish I'd learned this before the time the filter slipped out of my hand and splashed into the full drain pan.) :lmao: . . . wasn't funny at the time.
I have a screen over my pan to allow the filter to drain, and it doesn't splash.
 
I'm not putting anything which can open accidentally and deprive my engine of oil...

Is there some sort of safety mechanism to prevent it from leaking accidentally?
 
When you turn it to the shutoff side, it "falls" into a groove. You have to push up and twist to open it again. Look at the picture again and you will see it.
 
I don't even change my oil myself any more. When the dealer only charges $25, it doesn't seem to make sense to spend $15 for supplies, waste an hour doing the change, then have to carry around the used oil and find a place to dump it.

But...I did want to mention that Filbert didn't say anything about a drain plug gasket. Isn't there supposed to be a new one put on every time you change the oil???
 
SSMV6 said:
The plug on the 7th gens are horizontal... adding one of these valves will limit how much oil can come out. It's probably just a few ounces, but I'd rather get as much of the old oil out as possible.
Mine has to go up on ramps for my ample arse to get under it. All the oil drains out.........and quickly! Refill is 4.5 quarts.
 
Putting your car on ramps actually helps get MORE oil out since the plug is in the back of the reservoir. :thmsup:
 
Pairallel said:
I don't even change my oil myself any more. When the dealer only charges $25, it doesn't seem to make sense to spend $15 for supplies, waste an hour doing the change, then have to carry around the used oil and find a place to dump it.
Sure it does -- I don't think most of the people doing their own oil changes do it for the savings (although it certainly doesn't hurt). Most of us do it to ensure it's done right(tm), and I for one actually enjoy working on my car.

Back to the FRAM Sure Drain. I have one from my totaled Passat which just so happens to be the same size (SD2). How well does it work for you guys? How much longer does it take to drain than not using it? Can it be opened w/o jacking the car up? I would probably do that and then jack the car up for a minute or two (on jack alone) to get the extra bit of oil out, then lower it and then close the Sure Drain. I do filter from top, and since I can't do it with car off the ground I can't use ramps.

I prefer doing it this way:
filter off -> drain -> replace drain plug/close sure drain -> new filter on -> fill

W/o Sure Drain, that means:
filter off -> jack up, place on stands -> drain -> replace drain plug -> lower car -> new filter on -> fill

With Sure Drain it could be this:
filter off -> open Sure Drain, drain -> jack up for 2 minutes to get last drop out, on jack alone -> lower car -> close Sure Drain -> new filter on -> fill

The last one depends on being able to open/close Sure Drain w/o jacking car up.
 
I tried changing my oil a few weeks ago. The people at Honda did a great job tightening the bolt so you can't get it off.
 
Accord4Life said:
I tried changing my oil a few weeks ago. The people at Honda did a great job tightening the bolt so you can't get it off.
Breaking bar, my man. Then, if you torque it to spec, you won't need it again. I was lucky in that the handle of my floor jack, which comes apart into 2 pieces, fits perfectly over the wrench I used to break the bolt. Instant breaking bar!
 
Pairallel said:
I don't even change my oil myself any more. When the dealer only charges $25, it doesn't seem to make sense to spend $15 for supplies, waste an hour doing the change, then have to carry around the used oil and find a place to dump it.

...I'm parallel with Pairallel. Only my dealer gets $27.50 (geographic differential?) which includes a free token for coffee/hot choc (but no Crown Royal)....

..all the best, ez..
 
ezshift5 said:
...I'm parallel with Pairallel. Only my dealer gets $27.50 (geographic differential?) which includes a free token for coffee/hot choc (but no Crown Royal)....

..all the best, ez..
I would also be down with that, but the closest dealer is still pretty darn far away. :mad: So now I'm <horror> even considering an oil change place. <shock>
 
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