Is it safe to drive with the donut for about 5 days, avging 150 miles a day? I have to switch out one of my rims for some repairs, and I don't have anything else besides the donut.
Driving with the donut
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No. Most of them aren't designed to last more than about 100 miles. Even one day of driving 150 miles is really pushing your luck; five days is just asking for a blowout. Besides, you never know when you'll need it again, or how far you'll be from civilization when you do, so it's good to keep the miles off of it.
Oh, and make sure you don't take it above 50 mph per the OM.
Oh, and make sure you don't take it above 50 mph per the OM.
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Yeah. This is why not having a full sized spare sucks.
Probably just look for a cheap rim of the same size if you have to drive the car. Maybe see if the shop can put your old tire on the temporary rim at the same time they take the old rim off to repair?
Or small rim big tire? Maybe others can speak up, I believe only the diameter really needs to be the same for this type of temporary solution.
I dunno, I have never bent a rim or blown a tire in my short 9 years of driving. I won't touch anything with much less sidewall than the 215/55 R17 on the EX models.
Probably just look for a cheap rim of the same size if you have to drive the car. Maybe see if the shop can put your old tire on the temporary rim at the same time they take the old rim off to repair?
Or small rim big tire? Maybe others can speak up, I believe only the diameter really needs to be the same for this type of temporary solution.
I dunno, I have never bent a rim or blown a tire in my short 9 years of driving. I won't touch anything with much less sidewall than the 215/55 R17 on the EX models.
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Another thing to worry about is where you placed the donut.. If the donut is on the front, you will be putting a lot of heat a stress on the front diff as one wheel will be spinning much more than the other one (as we have FWD cars). If its on the back, it isn't as much of a big deal.
However, the 150 miles thing you mentioned, yeah you're really pushing it. Those donuts are designed JUST to get you to the nearest service station and get a new tire/rim so your car can run as it was designed to.
Consider it like it, if you break your arm, you should go to the hospital so they can fix your arm and get you back to how it was supposed to be (not broken). If you just put a bandaid on it, it will not fix your problems and without proper attention, it can escalate to worse things. Same thing for your car. If the donut is the bandaid, than get your broken car to the shop before you have to buy a new differential, diff fluid, tire, ball joint, new car (if the donut blows and you get in an accident), etc.. You get my point
If you can't buy a new tire or wheel, find a used tire that has about the same amount of tread as your current tires and swap it with a wheel on the back. You want your drive wheels to be the same circumference. Even a few centimetres more in tire circumference from a new tire to used tire, will add to a lot over a decent amount of time.
However, the 150 miles thing you mentioned, yeah you're really pushing it. Those donuts are designed JUST to get you to the nearest service station and get a new tire/rim so your car can run as it was designed to.
Consider it like it, if you break your arm, you should go to the hospital so they can fix your arm and get you back to how it was supposed to be (not broken). If you just put a bandaid on it, it will not fix your problems and without proper attention, it can escalate to worse things. Same thing for your car. If the donut is the bandaid, than get your broken car to the shop before you have to buy a new differential, diff fluid, tire, ball joint, new car (if the donut blows and you get in an accident), etc.. You get my point
If you can't buy a new tire or wheel, find a used tire that has about the same amount of tread as your current tires and swap it with a wheel on the back. You want your drive wheels to be the same circumference. Even a few centimetres more in tire circumference from a new tire to used tire, will add to a lot over a decent amount of time.
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Weird. Can anyone find in the OM where it states the maximum number of miles you can drive on the donut? The only thing I found is this (page 545 of the 2013 Accord Sedan manual):
"When driving with the compact spare tire, keep the vehicle speed under 50 mph (80 km/h). Replace with a full-size tire as soon as possible."
As you can see, it just says to replace the donut "as soon as possible". "As soon as possible" might mean one day for one person and two weeks for another person! I'm pretty certain my 2003 OM said to drive no more than 200 miles on the donut and to not exceed 50 MPH.
Surely this didn't slip by Honda's legal team did it?
aranoid:
Here's a link to the online version of the OM:
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/AH/A2A1313OM/enu/2A1313OM.pdf
"When driving with the compact spare tire, keep the vehicle speed under 50 mph (80 km/h). Replace with a full-size tire as soon as possible."
As you can see, it just says to replace the donut "as soon as possible". "As soon as possible" might mean one day for one person and two weeks for another person! I'm pretty certain my 2003 OM said to drive no more than 200 miles on the donut and to not exceed 50 MPH.
Surely this didn't slip by Honda's legal team did it?
aranoid:Here's a link to the online version of the OM:
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/AH/A2A1313OM/enu/2A1313OM.pdf
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Donuts sucks. Even the Germans, (VW) are begining to use them in their cars.
Question: if one were to buy a full sized wheel and tire, would it even fit in place of the doughnut wheel?
Cant remember, but I dont think a full size wheel/tire would even fit back there? Unless someone can chime in..
Question: if one were to buy a full sized wheel and tire, would it even fit in place of the doughnut wheel?
Cant remember, but I dont think a full size wheel/tire would even fit back there? Unless someone can chime in..
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I'm pretty sure it wouldn't fit but I'm not 100% certain. The donut fits very snugly inside the well in the trunk so I don't think there'd be enough room to squeeze a full-sized tire in there. You could always just keep it in the trunk like a suitcase 24/7 but then you'd have the problem of it sliding around all the time.
I wish it were an option. I'd be willing to pay for it but I know that would drive up production costs for Honda that would get passed along to the consumer.
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Someone tried it before and it didn't fit by about 2 inches.
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I remember someone on this forum already did that and the spare tire cover in the trunk will not lay flat.
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I tried it just out of curiosity when I rotated my tires a few weeks ago. I was able to lay it flat in the well (didn't bother clamping it down), but the lid didn't sit flush with the rest of the trunk floor. Also, that was with the LX wheels, which at 16x7 are thinner than the 17x7.5 or 18x8 wheels on the higher trim levels.
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You shouldn't do that. If it were like 50 miles total, then I would say don't stress over this but 750?
If you get into a serious accident, the plaintiff's lawyer or prosecutor would have a field day with this fact if the accident can even remotely (or arguably) be tied to the tire (it would sound really dumb with a 20/20 hindsight). Not to mention risking your safety and others'.
If you are going to do it, you need another donut in the trunk!
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If you get into a serious accident, the plaintiff's lawyer or prosecutor would have a field day with this fact if the accident can even remotely (or arguably) be tied to the tire (it would sound really dumb with a 20/20 hindsight). Not to mention risking your safety and others'.
If you are going to do it, you need another donut in the trunk!
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Not as safe as you could be but yes it can be driven hundreds of miles, though do not recommend. No, this is not from some armchair blowhard know it all car internet chat room poster, but from actual albeit stupid experience I observed.
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What kind of donut? Glazed? French Cruller? Boston Creme? Stawberry Frosted? Blueberry? Chocolate?
In all seriousness do not drive more than absolutely needed on the donut. Also, check the air pressure in it often. We had to use the donut in our Odyssey last week. It was supposed to be at 60psi, it was at 42. The car is JUST over 1 year old (Made in may 2013).
Also, my wife put about 50 miles on the spare and when she was done it looks as if about 1/2 of the thread is gone.
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In all seriousness do not drive more than absolutely needed on the donut. Also, check the air pressure in it often. We had to use the donut in our Odyssey last week. It was supposed to be at 60psi, it was at 42. The car is JUST over 1 year old (Made in may 2013).
Also, my wife put about 50 miles on the spare and when she was done it looks as if about 1/2 of the thread is gone.
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For what we pay for these cars (some of the upper trim lines being close to $30,000 or more) I don't understand why Honda can't just put a full-sized spare in there. I just don't see how that would add that much cost to the car. Or does it mean they have to completely redesign the trunk to accommodate the different size? :dunno:
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Unfortunately, it's the result of entering the cost-cutting era; lower weight, less cost, and more trunk space. Very rarely will we get full size spares with the car/truck that we buy, stock. Even the Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7 Series have had donuts since the early/mid-2000's, and I believe they now are on run-flats.
Be thank full, some of the Hyundai's don't give you a donut.
Wont buy a car without a spare.
I got a full size for my 2010 Escape, but it cost me 500 or so bucks extra.
Back in 05 had another escape that was when you could get a steel wheel and a full
size tire from Ford for about 100 bucks. They gave you a fleet price on it back then.
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Wont buy a car without a spare.
I got a full size for my 2010 Escape, but it cost me 500 or so bucks extra.
Back in 05 had another escape that was when you could get a steel wheel and a full
size tire from Ford for about 100 bucks. They gave you a fleet price on it back then.
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