[Kryder]

Quick question on FWD v AWD since i have only had 4WD vehicles the last 20 vehicles. How tough is winter driving with FWD on 19 inch rims that came on my 2023 Touring Hybrid? I live in central PA and we do get some snow but i don't think i would be driving in any crazy conditions like i did with my Jeeps/Durango's. I used to have FWD Jetta's back in the day and they were fine in the snow but also on smaller rims. I just bought aftermarket wheels and was wondering if i should keep the 19's that came with it and mount snow tires on them next winter or just sell the OEM rims now? I really wish this model was AWD and am surprised Honda didnt make it an option on the Touring Hybrid. I guess it would negatively impact MPG but so did putting 19 inch wheels on it so they should have at least made it an option. I just dont want to be "White Knuckle" driving.....lol

 

[RCarlL]

Quick question on FWD v AWD since i have only had 4WD vehicles the last 20 vehicles. How tough is winter driving with FWD on 19 inch rims that came on my 2023 Touring Hybrid? I live in central PA and we do get some snow but i don't think i would be driving in any crazy conditions like i did with my Jeeps/Durango's. I used to have FWD Jetta's back in the day and they were fine in the snow but also on smaller rims. I just bought aftermarket wheels and was wondering if i should keep the 19's that came with it and mount snow tires on them next winter or just sell the OEM rims now? I really wish this model was AWD and am surprised Honda didnt make it an option on the Touring Hybrid. I guess it would negatively impact MPG but so did putting 19 inch wheels on it so they should have at least made it an option. I just dont want to be "White Knuckle" driving.....lol

I haven't driven an 11th Generation Accord- but if it is anything like the 10th Generation Accord's 19" wheel and tire package... you'll probably want different wheels/tires for winter.

I live in SE Wisconsin- and I drove my 2019 Accord Sport 2.0t exactly once in snow... then immediately went to work to find wheels and tires that I could use in winter. I found the factory 19" wheels and tires downright dangerous in even minor snow- as in less than 2". I bought a set of 17" OEM wheels and put Michelin CrossClimate2 tires on it- and it improved traction and stability significantly.

I suppose it all depends on the specific tires that Honda is putting on Accords with the 19" wheels. Both my 2019 and 2021 Accords came with 19" Michelin MXM4 tires from the factory- both were horrible in snow.

According (no pun intended) to TireRack.com, right now Honda is using the same Michelin MXM4 tires on the 11th Gen Accord with the 19" wheel package. They apparently are putting Goodyear Eagle Tourings on some of them too. Neither is rated very well in the snow.

 

[Kryder]

I haven't driven an 11th Generation Accord- but if it is anything like the 10th Generation Accord's 19" wheel and tire package... you'll probably want different wheels/tires for winter.

I live in SE Wisconsin- and I drove my 2019 Accord Sport 2.0t exactly once in snow... then immediately went to work to find wheels and tires that I could use in winter. I found the factory 19" wheels and tires downright dangerous in even minor snow- as in less than 2". I bought a set of 17" OEM wheels and put Michelin CrossClimate2 tires on it- and it improved traction and stability significantly.

I suppose it all depends on the specific tires that Honda is putting on Accords with the 19" wheels. Both my 2019 and 2021 Accords came with 19" Michelin MXM4 tires from the factory- both were horrible in snow.

According (no pun intended) to TireRack.com, right now Honda is using the same Michelin MXM4 tires on the 11th Gen Accord with the 19" wheel package. They apparently are putting Goodyear Eagle Tourings on some of them too. Neither is rated very well in the snow.

Damn, thanks for the info. So i guess i am better off trying to sell the OEM 19in rims and buy 17’s for next winter since putting snow tires on the 19’s might not make a world of diff. Cant understand why they took away AWD option.

 

[metsfan84]

II bought a set of 17" OEM wheels and put Michelin CrossClimate2 tires on it- and it improved traction and stability significantly.

Why did you decide against getting 19" CrossClimates? Are you only running the CrossClimates in the winter?

 

[RCarlL]

Why did you decide against getting 19" CrossClimates? Are you only running the CrossClimates in the winter?

I sold my 2021 Accord last year- mainly due to some quality issues that my local dealers wouldn't fix under warranty. It's a shame because I really liked my 2021 Touring other than those issues. Plus, I needed a bit more space for hauling stuff due to my job.

Ultimately I decided against running 19" CrossClimates because they were pretty impractical. I drive in a city in WI- and in winter, potholes can be a huge problem. The 19" wheels and tires are much more expensive- and much more prone to damage from those potholes. Generally by March, my city does a decent job filling in those potholes- but they all seem to come back as soon as winter hits again and the freeze/thaw cycle happens again starting in December. OEM 19" wheels are pretty expensive- the 17" OEM wheels can usually be found at a much lower cost.

On both my 2019 and 2021 Accords- I ran the OEM 19" wheels and tires from late March through Thanksgiving weekend. I would swap to the 17" wheels and CrossClimates for December- late March and then put the OEM 19" wheels/tires back on.

 

[MartyV6]

I got separate wheels (Honda OEM used off Craigslist) and put Blizzaks on them for our 2014 Accord. Makes a noticeable difference. I don't care and am happy driving around with the traction light flashing at times. My wife drives the Accord most and she much prefers to have the additional grip (and it is as much or more about stopping power rather than acceleration). That said as I posted elsewhere for the new Accord coming I would love to just stick with a good all weather rather than needing to get another set of wheels and tires to stack in the garage alongside the others. Note also that the cost of winter tires isn't "2X" because obviously the tires wear more slowly since you are driving each set for just part of the year.

 

[Kryder]

Gotcha. My issue now is that i already bought new aftermarket black rims since i did not like the 2 toned look that came in my 2023. So will i be ok putting snow tires on ny OEM 19’s or do i have to now buy a 3rd set of 17’s to put snow tires on. I know snow tires on 17’s is the best option but i really dont want to buy s 3rd set so i guess im hoping putting snow tires on the 19’s will at least be an upgrade from the all weather and get me around in light snow/ice. Any thoughts?

 

[RCarlL]

Gotcha. My issue now is that i already bought new aftermarket black rims since i did not like the 2 toned look that came in my 2023. So will i be ok putting snow tires on ny OEM 19’s or do i have to now buy a 3rd set of 17’s to put snow tires on. I know snow tires on 17’s is the best option but i really dont want to buy s 3rd set so i guess im hoping putting snow tires on the 19’s will at least be an upgrade from the all weather and get me around in light snow/ice. Any thoughts?

Ultimately it is based on your preference. Snow tires generally run a bit rougher than all-season tires- so if you put actual snow tires on your OEM 19" wheels, odds are the car will ride rougher and there will be more tire noise compared to the stock tires.

CrossClimate2s aren't technically snow tires. They have the snowflake symbol on them- so they are designed for more traction in snow compared to most all-seasons, but they aren't technically full-on winter tires like Blizzaks (for example).
Or you could buy that third set of wheels with more winter-friendly tires and try to sell your OEM 19" wheels to offset the cost.

 

[MartyV6]

Ultimately it is based on your preference. Snow tires generally run a bit rougher than all-season tires- so if you put actual snow tires on your OEM 19" wheels, odds are the car will ride rougher and there will be more tire noise compared to the stock tires.

CrossClimate2s aren't technically snow tires. They have the snowflake symbol on them- so they are designed for more traction in snow compared to most all-seasons, but they aren't technically full-on winter tires like Blizzaks (for example).
Or you could buy that third set of wheels with more winter-friendly tires and try to sell your OEM 19" wheels to offset the cost.

Is there a drawback to getting snowflake symbol tires? (can't recall are Snowflakes better than "3 Peaks"?) Do these hybrid tires do worse in treadwear or ride comfort or dry handling? (vs a traditional Touring All Season tire)

 

[AccorDokken]

Gotcha. My issue now is that i already bought new aftermarket black rims since i did not like the 2 toned look that came in my 2023. So will i be ok putting snow tires on ny OEM 19’s or do i have to now buy a 3rd set of 17’s to put snow tires on. I know snow tires on 17’s is the best option but i really dont want to buy s 3rd set so i guess im hoping putting snow tires on the 19’s will at least be an upgrade from the all weather and get me around in light snow/ice. Any thoughts?

To answer this question, yes, snow tires on 19" rims is far preferable to all seasons in the winter.

 

[RCarlL]

Is there a drawback to getting snowflake symbol tires? (can't recall are Snowflakes better than "3 Peaks"?) Do these hybrid tires do worse in treadwear or ride comfort or dry handling? (vs a traditional Touring All Season tire)

I think that we are both talking about the same symbol. It's a three peak mountain thing with a snowflake inside:

The only downside that I've experienced with the CrossClimate2 tires are that they get slightly worse fuel economy compared to the OEM tires. That's a small tradeoff for the significantly better traction- in all conditions.

The CrossClimate2 tires have a 60,000 mile tread life warranty- so it seems like their expected life is about average for higher-quality all seasons. On my 2019 and 2022 Accords, ride comfort was slightly better with the 17" wheels with CrossClimate2 tires compared to the OEM 19" wheels with Michelin MXM4 tires. My current vehicle is a 2022 Highlander- it came with ugly 18" wheels and Michelin Defender tires from the factory. Soon after purchasing it, I upgraded to 20" OEM wheels and put on a set of CrossClimate2 tires. The ride with the 20" wheels and CrossClimates on my HL is a little less comfy- but it's completely fine. The ride with 18" wheels and tires is downright plush- thanks to the huge amount of sidewall that Toyota chose for the 18" wheel/tire package. You just feel the bumps a bit more with the 20" wheels... but it's still smoother than the ride of my Accords with either the 17" or 19" wheels/tires.

As I said- the only negative that I experienced with the CrossClimate2 tires is the slightly worse fuel economy. On my Highlander it's a noticeable difference- 2-3mpg in winter, 1-2mpg in spring/summer/fall. That could also be partly caused by going with the larger 20" wheels vs 18" wheels. (Although Toyota's official MPG figures are the same for the HL regardless if you opt for the models that come with 18" or 20" wheels). The difference wasn't horrible with my Accords- maybe 1mpg. Completely worth it considering the improved stability and traction of the CrossClimate2 tires.

 

[shintony]

17 inch rims plus tires are still cheaper than 19 inch winter tires alone, and you’ll need to find 19 inch winter tire in the first place. The only available winter options would be the pilot alpine category. Crossclimate2 is good, but even better with 17 inch rims. You’ll get a better ride and more robust tires during impact. If you don’t like the 19 inch rims, just sell it to clear up the space.

235/50R17 tires on 17x7.5 rim. If you could find 17x8 option that would fit nicer.

 

[Kryder]

Ultimately it is based on your preference. Snow tires generally run a bit rougher than all-season tires- so if you put actual snow tires on your OEM 19" wheels, odds are the car will ride rougher and there will be more tire noise compared to the stock tires.

CrossClimate2s aren't technically snow tires. They have the snowflake symbol on them- so they are designed for more traction in snow compared to most all-seasons, but they aren't technically full-on winter tires like Blizzaks (for example).
Or you could buy that third set of wheels with more winter-friendly tires and try to sell your OEM 19" wheels to offset the cost.

I think i would sell oem 19’s on this site now but i think you need 30 posts and a 3 month wait from when you join or i would already have listed them.

 

[MartyV6]

I think i would sell oem 19’s on this site now but i think you need 30 posts and a 3 month wait from when you join or i would already have listed them.

Start with Facebook marketplace and Craigslist too in your local area. Not something you are gonna ship anywhere, it will be a local sale

 

[RCarlL]

I think i would sell oem 19’s on this site now but i think you need 30 posts and a 3 month wait from when you join or i would already have listed them.

Perhaps Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist? As I said- there are so few people that own 2023 Accords at this point that it might make sense to put those wheels in your garage and wait to sell them for a few months until there are more 2023 Accords on the road.

 

[Kryder]

Perhaps Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist? As I said- there are so few people that own 2023 Accords at this point that it might make sense to put those wheels in your garage and wait to sell them for a few months until there are more 2023 Accords on the road.

Good point thanks brother

 

[MartyV6]

Perhaps Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist? As I said- there are so few people that own 2023 Accords at this point that it might make sense to put those wheels in your garage and wait to sell them for a few months until there are more 2023 Accords on the road.

Doesn't have to be marketed as only 2023 though I wouldn't think. I would think if you list the size that some others might want them

I bought Accord wheels from a different generation to put snow tires on for our 2014 Accord to have a second set