[Ronch]

I know there are lots of threads about replacing the cabin air filter in the Gen 9 Accord, but I didn't find the answer to my questions about replacing this filter in a '16 EX CVT Coupe + Sensing with 30k that's due for B12 service.

1. The dealership will probably charge big bucks just to replace those 2 filters, which I can do myself in a few minutes. I'll let them do the rest of B12, assuming they don't give me a line that it's a fixed price for the entire B12 service, even if they don't replace the filters. Has anyone had a dealer say that when they replaced the filters themselves?

2. Two different Honda OEM part numbers are listed for the cabin filter, depending on site checked: 80292-T0G-A01 and 80292-SDA-407. Some sites, eg Honda Parts Now and Amazon both say 80292-SDA-407 doesn't fit my '16 CVT Coupe and recommend 80292-T0G-A01. College Hills Honda says 80292-SDA-407 replaces 80292-T0G-A01 and fits '03-'17 Accord 2dr...??

Does anyone know what the difference is between these 2 filters? Is one better than the other, assuming both fit my Coupe? Or did Honda just change the part number because 80292-SDA-407 is made by a different supplier?

Depending on the answer to question #1, I'll probably order cabin filter plus engine air intake filter from Amazon. Honda Parts Now has the parts for less, but adds over $12 just for s/h, and there's sales tax too. Still have to pay the sales tax at Amazon but no s/h charges, so it comes out cheaper.

Thanks!

 

[mtts60]

One may be a normal filter, the other impregnated with charcoal (to absorb odors).

I wouldn't bother with the dealer (online or not) for a cabin air filter. Get them at your local auto parts place. It's not a quality-critical item. The engine air filter, may be worth it from the dealer though. I have an STP engine air filter in now, and when I got it I noticed it wasn't quite an exact fit. It seemed to seal ok though.

 

[Ronch]

Thanks for the response.

Did you mean letting the dealer install the engine air filter or just buying it from them for a DIY?

I can probably get both the OEM Honda cabin and engine air filters cheaper on line than at the dealer or car parts place, even if I DIY. Besides, I got a b'day gift card for Amazon which will cover the cost of both filters, that's burning a hole in my pocket...

Did you ever have a dealer say you have to pay for everything listed for a specific service interval, even if you DIY the filters? Or will they just jack up the charges for whatever services/inspections I allow them to do?

This is my first car with a Maintenance Monitor with a very specific list of items. So I don't know what gimmicks they play these days. In the past, I just told the dealer (or inde mechanic) what I wanted them to do, and they just did that...

 

[mtts60]

Dealers tend to ignore the maintenance minder because it reduces their profits.

I DIY as much as possible. On my car, the engine air filter is kind of a pain to replace, but nothing I can't handle. The cabin air filter is much easier. Neither get changed that often, maybe once a year, whenever the MM tells me to.

 

[jassmi]

The maintenance monitor, in my opinion, is a gimmick. The only difference between A service and B service is they are supposed to “inspect” some additional items but both are essentially oil changes.

I have serious doubts, and some experience, that they are not inspecting what you are paying them to inspect so don’t be too worried about doing exactly what the maintenance minder tells you to do.

Change the oil every 5,000 miles, filters every 15,000, and get 30 - 60 - and 90,000 mile services from Honda.

Also B12 service refers to three different services (B - oil change and “inspections; 1 - Rotate tires; 2 - filters). You can definitely get B service, or B1 service or any other variation there of.


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[CVG323]

I just changed mine. It was $8 on Amazon. Breathe right brand. Has activated carbon to eliminate any odor. Took me 1 minute to install it.

here's the one I ordered

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07663SQXD/

 

[BryanKlingele]

I recently changed my cabin filter and air filter and it took me less than ten (10) minutes. It only took me this long since I removed some leaves and topped off the washer fluid. I purchased my filters from Amazon, but I don't recall exactly what I paid for them. I purchased an actual Honda air filter and if I recall a Fram carbon cabin filter.

Please save your money and replace these filters yourself. The dealership does my oil changes and when the "big service" comes, I just decline the filter changes.

 

[BLCKFLSH]

I do all my own maintenance. I just buy the Fram filters from Walmart. I follow the maintenance minder for oil changes and some other things, but I simply check the air filters every now and then. The MM has no idea how dirty the filters are because it depends mostly on where you drive and how dusty/rainy it is. I checked the filters a couple weeks ago, and they had mostly loose stuff just sitting on top of them, so I blew them off with the air compressor and put them back in. I changed both filters once so far in 39k miles. I rotate the tires every 5,000 miles so they will wear evenly and I like to clean the back side of the wheels and check the brakes, etc. at that time too.

 

[DARKART]

@BLCKFLSH Do you have four jack stands? I’m curious how you guys that rotate your own tires do so as it requires raising the entire car at once in order to rotate properly.

 

[GPz1100]

^^A floor jack and jackstands make life much easier. Accord is real easy to jack up. Front and rear jack points clearly defined in the owners manual. I place a jack stand under each pinch weld with a hockey puck in between.

 

[BLCKFLSH]

Yep, four jack stands. I take all four off, and the fronts switch sides going to the rear, and rears go straight to front on the same side, just like the manual shows.

 

[Ronch]

Unfortunately, I don't have jack stands or ramps so I can't do much maintenance on my '16. On my '00, I could drain the oil and replace the oil filter just by reaching underneath from the driver's side.

Even if I could jack the '16 up, the homeowner's association where I live now prohibits car maintenance on the property and I don't have room to do it inside my garage with the door closed, out of sight of prying eyes. So that leaves things like the cabin and air intake filters which I can do with the door closed.

 

[GPz1100]

Petition to rewrite the rules. It's your property, you should be able to do what you want so long as it doesn't impede on others'.

 

[CVG323]

I just jack up the front jacking point high enough that 2 wheels come off the ground and rotate the tires lol.
repeat for other side.

 

[KDiggityDog76]

The HOA’s always put stuff like that in the CC&Rs because they don’t want you running a business for repair out of your garage or generating a ton of noise with air tools and a compressor. As long as you’re quietly using hand tools and not running fluids all down the driveway and staining or contaminating everything, you’d hopefully be ok. Besides, rotating tires is like a 30 min job, max. I say stick it to the man

 

[Ronch]

This is California, we don't let fluids run down driveways and cause hazmat situations...

Besides, the garage isn't my private property, even though it's fully enclosed on the first floor of my townhouse. Garages are "exclusive use common areas", meaning the HOA owns the garage but I have the right to exclusive use of the space and nobody else can park in "my" garage, assuming they had the remote to open the door. The CC&Rs also prohibit all car maintenance other than emergency repairs anywhere on the property.

75% of owners (= 80) plus the County gov't has to approve any changes to the docs, so this 30 min DIY would more likely take multiple years before it got started, if ever, and I don't need the aggrevation.

I'll do the 2 air filters myself with the garage door closed (Shussh! Don't tell the HOA!), and let the dealer do the oil+filter and tire rotation for the B12.

 

[DARKART]

Yep, four jack stands. I take all four off, and the fronts switch sides going to the rear, and rears go straight to front on the same side, just like the manual shows.

For FWD vehicles, it’s cross the rears to the front and the fronts straight back.

Further, what about tire balancing? When Discount Tire rotates my tires they check the balance of each tire and adjust as necessary. You can’t do that in your driveway.

As for HOAs and CC&Rs, I haven’t seen one yet that didn’t think made sense. The regulations are in place to create a pleasant area for everyone, and with that maximize property values for all.

 

[KDiggityDog76]

Look, I agree with the idea that the CC&Rs exist to provide for a pleasant area for everyone to enjoy. But I'm of the mindset that their right to "throw a punch" ends at the "tip of my nose". In other words, as long as my behavior isn't detracting from the ability of anyone to enjoy the common area or creating a nuisance or otherwise reducing neighboring property values, then I don't necessarily agree that they should prohibit certain activities which are otherwise lawful just because they don't want me engaging in said activities. As long as I proceed conscientiously with concern for my neighbors' enjoyment and access to pleasant common areas, I am going to do what I'm going to do.

 

[WhiteOrchid]

Geez I'm glad I own my own home in an older neighborhood (no HOA) where I can do what I please on my own property.

As far as rotating tires, most of my cars have directional tires so rotating front to rear is what I can do. I've found that the jack point just behind the front wheel can be used to lift both wheels on that side off the ground at one time. But usually on the Accord I am doing the rotating when I am swapping between Summer and Winter tires so I can put whichever wheel I want on whatever corner I want by lifting one corner or one side at a time.

 

[BLCKFLSH]

For FWD vehicles, it’s cross the rears to the front and the fronts straight back.

Further, what about tire balancing? When Discount Tire rotates my tires they check the balance of each tire and adjust as necessary. You can’t do that in your driveway.

As for HOAs and CC&Rs, I haven’t seen one yet that didn’t think made sense. The regulations are in place to create a pleasant area for everyone, and with that maximize property values for all.

Why would it matter which tires switch sides (front or back). The point is each tire spends 5,000 miles in each of the four positions.
If one of my tires is out of balance I think I would notice some vibration. Do you think they really re-balance the tires each time they are rotated? I would be surprised if they actually rotated them at all. I've had lug nuts come off before because the tire shop tech forgot to torque them. Half of my experiences with all car shops have been a realization that they are lazy, or just don't care.
Does Discount tires clean the back side of the wheels, inspect the brakes, driveshafts, and torque the lug nuts correctly, etc.? I seriously doubt it.