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Good riddance! It's about freaking time. What a glorious day it will be when I don't have see anymore huge, gas sucking yuppie mobiles on the roads. Hopefully we'll become like Europe, where gas is about $7 a gallon and has always been very high. They don't have the luxury of driving around gas pigs like an SUV, thus smaller, fuel efficient 5 door hatchbacks (think Mazda 3) are huge there. I'm sure the SUV owners are going to cry about how they are going to transport their family around, well I think people managed just fine before the advent of the SUV.

Say Goodbye To The SUVs
 
My bad, it wasn't the same article, but very very similar. Sorry.
 
I bet GM is kicking itself right now for both sticking with their hummer line and putting out the G8, GTO and soon-to-come Camaro and G8 coupe (maybe). I can't wait till GM goes under or is sold to a non-stupid parent company.
 
I dumped my H3 because I had to start taking frequent long trips. My wife and I have never looked back once. It was great on those Alabama back dirt roads though
 
Hopefully we'll become like Europe, where gas is about $7 a gallon and has always been very high.

While I share your sentiments regarding SUV's - driven by those who, in reality, have no need to do so, I really don't share your enthusiasm or hope for gas at $7.00 per gallon.

mike.
 
Good riddance! It's about freaking time. What a glorious day it will be when I don't have see anymore huge, gas sucking yuppie mobiles on the roads. Hopefully we'll become like Europe, where gas is about $7 a gallon and has always been very high. They don't have the luxury of driving around gas pigs like an SUV, thus smaller, fuel efficient 5 door hatchbacks (think Mazda 3) are huge there. I'm sure the SUV owners are going to cry about how they are going to transport their family around, well I think people managed just fine before the advent of the SUV.

Say Goodbye To The SUVs


Sorry to burst your bubble, but its not that cut and dry. There may not have been big SUVs back in the day, but there was DAMN sure big arse station wagons and vans!!!! Yes, they use much more gas, but you cant carry a family of 5-6 in a Mazda hatchback. Hell, I wouldnt want too.....that is dangerous.

That is why I have my 4 banga Accord to run around in, and drive to and from work (30 mi round trip) and I my wife drives our Tahoe to and from work (10 mil round trip) and for vacation with the whole family.

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This will lead to more scooters and motorcycles on the road. Good thing- those things are fun to look at and are good for the roads being so light. If I lived in a part of the USA that I can ride safely year round I would have bought one now. Well I had one but sold it before the gas hikes. bad move on my part.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but its not that cut and dry. There may not have been big SUVs back in the day, but there was DAMN sure big arse station wagons and vans!!!! Yes, they use much more gas, but you cant carry a family of 5-6 in a Mazda hatchback. Hell, I wouldnt want too.....that is dangerous.
Todays SUV and minivan is yesterday's station wagon. My dad had a Ford LTD station wagon that I swear was as big as a Tahoe is today.........:lmao:


That is why I have my 4 banga Accord to run around in, and drive to and from work (30 mi round trip) and I my wife drives our Tahoe to and from work (10 mil round trip) and for vacation with the whole family.

:thmsup:
I got the same thing for me, but the Ody for wife's 16 mile commute each day, and on family trips (4 of us) the Ody is the bomb.........:yes:
 
I guess I don't understand the hatred. Okay, so you don't want a big SUV. And to fix that, well...you don't buy one. I have a family of 5 so I have both an Accord and an SUV which I have already maxed out with people on several trips around town in the less than month we've owned it. But even if it was just me driving it around...so what? I have no need for a crew cab Ford Duallie but for the many I see on the road I say "Good luck and have a nice day". If you are married with no kids, does that mean you should only drive 2 seaters or you're being wasteful? What exactly is "appropriate" as a measurement tool in regard to personal transportation? (The key there being personal transportation.)

As far as being glad gas prices have doubled within 2 years: Gas prices affect literally everything in the market. Raw material gathering, manufacturing, transportation, and demand for companies to raise wages to compensate for employee budgets are just a few ways. So I guess you would be better saying "It's great to pay more for everything". For me, not so much...
 
As far as being glad gas prices have doubled within 2 years: Gas prices affect literally everything in the market. Raw material gathering, manufacturing, transportation, and demand for companies to raise wages to compensate for employee budgets are just a few ways. So I guess you would be better saying "It's great to pay more for everything". For me, not so much...
My sentiments exactly. It's a ripple effect. Gas costs more, shipping costs rise, increased expense is ultimately passed along to the consumer. Where is the joy in that? There isn't any.

mike.
 
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While I share your sentiments regarding SUV's - driven by those who, in reality, have no need to do so, I really don't share your enthusiasm or hope for gas at $7.00 per gallon.

mike.
Heck no, I'm absolutely not enthusiastic at all about these gas prices. The only good thing to come from them is forcing into extinction SUV's and getting our butts into gear to explore alternative fuel sources/more fuel efficient vehicles. But make no mistake, these gas prices are affecting me pretty bad, especially with my new 40 mile daily roundtrip commute to work (new job). Before that I had a 13 mile daily roundtrip commute.

As a matter of fact, as much as I love my Accord I'm seriously considering buying a Toyota Prius. Granny driving my Accord I'm getting about between 26 mpg & 28 mpg. Sometimes I can get higher than that if there is absolutely no traffic on the freeway. Compare that with a Prius which averages 40 mpg, that is a huge difference. Especially at $4.00 a gallon and rising all the time. I'm going to test drive a Prius after work tomorrow, and I swear tomorrow may be the last day I own my Accord. There is no point in owning a car like mine if all I'm going to do is granny drive it, and that's all I do now.

How sad, I thought I was going to own my Accord for at least 10 years, but man was I short sighted about the incredible rise in fuel costs. I admit, I was just like most Americans, only thinking of the present and not the future. I had a 13 mile commute to work, and when I bought my Accord gas prices where about $1.20 less than they are now. How things change.
 
Heck no, I'm absolutely not enthusiastic at all about these gas prices.
More from the OP: "Hopefully we'll become like Europe, where gas is about $7 a gallon and has always been very high."

Your Europe comment above sounded pretty enthusiastic about sticking it to us "privileged" Americans.
 
I Don't Believe They're Gone For Good

I've indicated many times that I've never been a proponent of gluttonous, vanity driven consumption, but I understand and support individuals who truly do need an SUV. The problem is, most do not need one. (Ardent opinion warning!) And to that, I'll be very glad to see the number of SUVs drop on our roadways as these poseurs are forced to dump such vehicles in exchange for more sensible, economically sustainable, responsible transport.

That said, I don't believe this marks the end of SUVs by any measure. As soon as our society finds an alternative way to power our vehicles, people will start buying large again. I believe there's something about common human nature that compels many of us to secure ever larger, more showy forms of transportation, whether we really need it or not. Be it convictions that an SUV is "safer", be it the common thought, "I could off-road if I wanted to", or whatever-- There has to be a reason or set of reasons why SUVs were so popular in the first place. And that mindset won't just disappear. In fact, the only reason SUVs are currenty dying is because driving one kills your pocket book... That's the ONE thing that people will universally pay attention to. Safety? Environmental responsibility? Consideration for your fellow motorists? By and large, people don't really care about that. Money does the talking, baby.

So I think SUVs will be back. But at least by that time they won't be barfing out ~6 tons of emissions per year; at least not at the point of transport...
 
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More from the OP: "Hopefully we'll become like Europe, where gas is about $7 a gallon and has always been very high."

Your Europe comment above sounded pretty enthusiastic about sticking it to us "privileged" Americans.
The Europe comment was about the types of cars they drive, not their gas prices. The majority of Europeans drive small, fuel efficient hatchbacks because their roads are quite narrow, and because their gas prices are so high. I think it would be great if America became like Europe in that sense; small, fuel efficient vehicles instead of gas sucking 5,000 lb SUV's everywhere.

America is privileged. Bigger is better is the American motto. A bigger house, a bigger car, a bigger bank account, a bigger family, a bigger tv, etc. Well sometimes that's not always true. SUV's to me are indictive of everything that's wrong with this country; they're obnoxious status symbols, environmentally unfriendly, glutonous, and most of the owners are rude (in my experience). That is the image many Europeans have of us.
 
Europe cannot be compared to america......the majority of americans outside of the large cities have a commute to get to work. Europeans live very close to town.....they can dayum near walk or ride a bike to wherever they are going. You cant ride a bike from my house to work....... :thumbsdow
 
I've indicated many times that I've never been a proponent of gluttonous, vanity driven consumption, but I understand and support individuals who truly do need an SUV. The problem is, most do not need one. (Ardent opinion warning!) And to that, I'll be very glad to see the number of SUVs drop on our roadways as these poseurs are forced to dump such vehicles in exchange for more sensible, economically sustainable, responsible transport....
:thmsup::thmsup::thmsup:

Most SUV/minivan drivers drive it because they want it, not because they need it, and in this day and age everyone must show some sense of responsibility. How did people get along before there were minivans...?!
 
I think I see where some of this venom is coming from based on these comments. There is a desire vs need scenario. It seems many are perceived to be driving about in their SUVs not out of a "need" but because, well...they just wanted one. Call it vanity, trendy, whatever. And if said driver did not apparently "need" the large vehicle, they are then labeled as "wrong" in some way. But why? Most personal transportation is purchased based on personal sets of priorities. These cover everything from status symbols to "lookin good in it" to industrial use to just needing 4 wheels in the driveway. This is where I lose the perspective: Why does it matter what someone bought for themselves to drive and for that matter the reason they did so?

If you bought your car based on a certain set of priorities, whose to say those same rationale should apply to anyone else? Again, especially when it comes to "personal" transportation.
 
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