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Going thru this head gasket situation has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Only have 94k and planned to drive this car till I couldn't but didn't count on this.

Thoughts on which you you get and why?
 
MDXer here.

I love the MDX. She was my pride and joy (my baby). Got 139,120 miles on her when the cylinder 4 on the J35Y5 left the chat on May 31st 2024. Personally, I regret selling her, but I will get another one soon. The MDX is a tank and will eat up corners like it's nothing.

I will recommend the 3rd gen MDX sport hybrid as it has a 7SPD DCT (model years 2017 to 2020). If you do get the new MDX, 4th generation refresh, keep in mind, it no longer has Sirius XM and no longer has ELS Audio (best audio system in the biz).

You can go onto mdxers.org (operated and run by the same company as DriveAccord) and the old timers over there will help you out, especially my guy, mrgold35. There are a lot of old timers, and I've seen a few members from DA over there as well.

If you want the sweet spot, model years 2017-2020 is the goldilocks of the MDX. The standard MDXs have the ZF-9spd. Current gens have the Honda 10spd with the same engine from the 3rd gens, but no hybrid powertrain. There is the Type-S which is a J30 with a turbo, limited to 112 MPH though. Only the sport hybrid goes to 130 MPH.

EDIT: I have pictures of my MDX in the garage feature on here and in the "what did you do to your OTA today?" thread.
 
I suppose you’re comparing the MDX to the Pilot?

I like both, but between the two I’d go with the MDX also simply because of the SH-AWD and 10AT. The current Pilot also has very similar drivetrain, but the engine is newer and less proven. If you need cargo space Pilot is the clear winner I’ve heard. Either is a good choice though.
 
We have a '23 Pilot as our family vehicle. Fits the bill for us - mid-size SUV with a Usable 3rd row seat and cargo area behind the 3rd row (we have 4 kids, so the 3rd row is always in use). Easy to maneuver and park... and the AWD system is great, even with OE tires (on my list to replace before winter). The combo of the storage well with the cover / deck is great.

Only issue I've had in 2+ years of ownership is puddle lights going out on the door mirrors.

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Do you haul a lot of people? Do you haul a lot of stuff? Then why drive an inferior vehicle? Cars, particularly Honda's CARS are better than any Crossover or SUV when driving on asphalt or concrete. Way better. The only thing perhaps is if you demand to sit higher up. But if you do, you have inferior handling, stopping, acceleration and braking. If you are one of those people that are just along for the ride and don't car about the driving experience fine, then why are you on this forum? Have you seen the price of a 3 year old Accord Hybrid? No brainer.
 
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Do you haul a lot of people? Do you haul a lot of stuff? Then why drive an inferior vehicle? Cars, particularly Honda's CARS are better than any Crossover or SUV when driving on asphalt or concrete. Way better. The only thing perhaps is if you demand to sit higher up. But if you do, you have inferior handling, stopping, acceleration and braking. If you are one of those people that are just along for the ride and don't car about the driving experience fine, then why are you on this forum? Have you seen the price of a 3 year old Accord Hybrid? No brainer.
Wow are they really that bad or you just hate Crossovers/SUVs?

It would help when lugging my Dj equipment.
 
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I suppose you’re comparing the MDX to the Pilot?

I like both, but between the two I’d go with the MDX also simply because of the SH-AWD and 10AT. The current Pilot also has very similar drivetrain, but the engine is newer and less proven. If you need cargo space Pilot is the clear winner I’ve heard. Either is a good choice though.
New to looking for a crossover/suv those are what I ment.
I see theirs also a RDX model.
 
New to looking for a crossover/suv those are what I ment.
I see theirs also a RDX model.
Yeah, there’s a RDX too which is a pretty good SUV in its own right. I liked it when I had it as a loaner and can see why it sold well at one point.

It does have the 2.0t / 10AT as well so I’m not sure you would want it coming out of the 2.0t Accord with the head gasket issues. Both the MDX and Pilot have a 3.5L naturally aspirated V6.
 
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Wow are they really that bad or you just hate Crossovers/SUVs?

It would help when lugging my Dj equipment.
I used to be someone that absolutely hated SUVs and swore that I would never own one. Well, back in 2022 I was having quite a few issues with my 2021 Accord that wasn't even a year old. My local Honda dealers (yes, as in several) refused to fix it- and I got so frustrated with Honda that I told my local dealer that if they didn't fix it, I was going to trade in my Accord across the street and go back to Toyota. Well, they still refused- so I drove across the street and found that my local Toyota dealer had a base Corolla, a fully-loaded Avalon, or a mid-grade Highlander available (this was at the height of Toyota's supply issues, so selection was pretty minimal). I test drove the Avalon and didn't really like it at all, so I took the Highlander for a spin. While it isn't the most engaging to drive- it's extremely comfortable, quiet, and has loads of space. I really wanted to get a Camry with the V6 to replace my Accord- but at the time it would have been a six month wait, so I ended up buying the Highlander. Over the next few months, I grew to really love it and slowly had to accept the fact that despite my long-term hatred of SUVs, they actually are really nice to live with on a day-to-day basis. I ended up liking my Highlander so much that ended up trading it in a year later for a fully-loaded one.

I still miss the fun-to-drive factor that the Accord had- but these days, you can't get an Accord with a higher-output engine anyway- same with the Camry. The whole idea of a fun-to-drive athletic midsize sedan that's affordable and reliable has vanished- you can't get one anymore from any manufacturer. Your choices are now to buy used or to spend more and get a midsize sedan from a luxury or near-luxury brand... but it seems like those are slowly dying too. The Acura TLX is now out-of-production, although you can still get one of the last ones if you visit your Acura dealer soon. You could get a midsize German sedan- but that often turns into an expensive proposition once the warranty runs out... and those are really expensive to buy too. Lexus discontinued the GS sedan about five or six years ago, and the ES350, even in F-Sport trim, isn't really a sporty car.

The Acura RDX compact SUV is decent to drive and has the same fun 2.0t engine as the Accord used to offer- but it has an awful infotainment interface and I don't really like how Acura forces you to get the top trim if you want certain features. That's the same for the MDX, which is a very nice SUV. I think you need to spend $62k to get an A-Spec if you want ventilated seats, $67k for the Advance trim if you want a heated steering wheel and a heads-up display. To be fair, you can add a heated steering wheel to lower trims as a dealer-installed accessory- but it retails for $520 and who knows how much Acura dealers would charge to install it.

One of my friends has a 2023 Pilot and loves it. I initially warned him to avoid it given how many issues the previous generation had- and how reluctant Honda was to address those issues even later in the generation's lifespan. My wife's 2021 Passport suffers from a lot of those same issues, given that the cars are pretty much identical from the C-Pillar forward, other than a slightly different front bumper. After two years and about 20,000 miles of owning the 2023 Pilot, my friend reports that it's been problem-free. I do think that Honda really got the trim levels right for the Pilot- there's a lot of trims to choose from and people can usually find one that meets their needs and budget. Like Acura though, they restrict certain features to higher trim levels. One of the things that I like about Toyota is that they generally offer a decent amount of factory options that can be added to different trim levels so that you can usually find one that has the features that you want without having to buy the top trim level.

Speaking of Toyota- you might want to cross-shop the Highlander, Grand Highlander, or even the RX350. All three of those models offer Toyota's excellent hybrid powertrain that is efficient and incredibly reliable (the base hybrid powertrain... the jury is still out regarding the long-term reliability of Toyota's Hybrid Max powertrain)- but it might be worth a try. I've driven a Grand Highlander with the Hybrid Max powertrain and it's very quick. It's still a box on wheels, but it's a very quick box on wheels. The base hybrid powertrain is more than sufficient, but it's not quick.
 
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Thank you for all the replys!

Hybrid is out the question because I like to gas and go.

The TLX would've been a good option but that limited room in the back seat ruined that.
 
Thank you for all the replys!

Hybrid is out the question because I like to gas and go.

The TLX would've been a good option but that limited room in the back seat ruined that.
What do you mean when you say "gas and go"? Hybrids generally don't require plug-in charging.
 
You need to drive anything Acura related with the new info system. The screen is non touch and you have to use a mouse pad located near the shifter to do anything.
 
You need to drive anything Acura related with the new info system. The screen is non touch and you have to use a mouse pad located near the shifter to do anything.
It depends. Most of the Acuras now have touchscreen. The only exceptions are the RDX and the now cancelled TLX.
 
Ohh didn't know that. And after looking it up our pal Scotty explains it well.
Sorry- I refuse to give Scotty a single click or 'view' on YouTube. All I hope is that Scotty got his information correct. Honda and Toyota hybrids don't require their users to plug them in to charge. Their hybrid systems recharge themselves- either through regenerative breaking or through the gas engine running enough to recharge the battery. The only exception would be Toyota's Plug-In Hybrids (former known as the Prius Prime and the Rav4 Prime) that can recharge themselves OR be plugged in. Toyota and Honda EVs (The Toyota bZ4X and Honda Prologue) do need to be plugged in.
 
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Sorry- I refuse to give Scotty a single click or 'view' on YouTube. All I hope is that Scotty got his information correct. Honda and Toyota hybrids don't require their users to plug them in to charge. Their hybrid systems recharge themselves- either through regenerative breaking or through the gas engine running enough to recharge the battery.
And he says that in the video breaking down how everything works.
 
You need to drive anything Acura related with the new info system. The screen is non touch and you have to use a mouse pad located near the shifter to do anything.
2025 MDX is touch now.
 
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