Ingalls Rear Camber Kit for 8th Gen Accord.. Not 3-Arm like others (NEW??)

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Discussion Starter · Jul 27, 2011

I haven't seen anyone post this and I did a search as well and came up with nothing..

Apparently it's just a 'ball joint and toe arm kit' (2pcs) that has a range up to + or - 3.5 degrees of camber according to ingalls instruction guide posted on there website.. http://www.ingallseng.com/Instructions/35623.pdf

check it out on the front page of ingalls webpage.. http://www.ingallseng.com/

this looks interesting considering its only about ~$260 for the whole rear set (~$129 each side) on here.. http://lightningmotorsports.com/ingalls/ingalls_alignment_kit/35623/i-412291.aspx

definitely a more affordable alternative to a SPC 3 arm set ~$405 or Megan ~$630

plus less parts to install, less labor and more OEM parts left on the vehicle.. if that's even a plus haha

i might jump on these.. any thoughts?? or should i just be a guinea pig lol

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kshyu

· #2 · Jul 27, 2011

IMO i think the arms are still the best setup

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 27, 2011

kshyu said:
IMO i think the arms are still the best setup

possibly.. but the 3 arm kits are the only ones out so their really isn't much to compare.. i've also heard of 3-arm kits are more prone to gettin out of alignment because of so many adjustment options.. but i'm sure they work fine overall

my thing is.. what issues (short term or long term) are their with camber adjustments that are related to the ball-joint kits vs the arm kits?!?

i know currently the only option for the front camber is ball joint camber kits.. what problems, if any, is everyone having with this type of camber kit? that way i may forsee the same issue with the ingalls setup for the rear since it's new and i may decide to buy them

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 27, 2011

alright well since i got no real response about this product.. i'm assuning this camber kit is super super new to people on here.. so i took the plunge.. i will be the guinea pig haha

i ordered the ingalls rear camber kit #35623.. which includes '1' ball joint and '1' toe arm per side claiming up to 3.5 degrees of adjustment.. (remember, it's not 3 arm like others).. the total came out to $257.26 from http://lightningmotorsports.com

if this is a success, ingalls & lightning may have a bump in rear camber kit sales for 8th gen lol.. especially considering it's significantly less than going the 3-arm route.. wish me luck!!

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Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 29, 2011

alright.. i also just ordered ingalls front ball joints #35593.. adjustable from +1.5 degrees to +3 degrees..(my current front camber is right at -1.5 degrees).. total for these came out to $154.96 w/ free shipping and that's for BOTH front ball joints! from https://www.streetsideauto.com with $5 coupon code q352011

so total for both front and rear camber kit is $257.26 + $154.96 = $412.22 shipped

i think i did pretty good.. considering most 3 arm rear kits alone are around $400+

i could of gone slightly cheaper (like $4.97 cheaper haha) with the eibach front ball joints #5.67330K for $149.99 but i wanted to keep the ingalls theme lol

now to get all these installed and aligned.. i'll keep you updated for anyone that's even paying attention lol at least this thread will be archived so 6 months from now people will wonder why they didn't think to go this 'value-oriented' route earlier hahaha wish me luck! or thank me later

Throwdown

· #6 · Jul 29, 2011

Definitely keep us posted on this item, we have known that this was out for some time now but have been hesitant for a few reasons:

When the 8th gen was first released, Megan actually tried to have more adjustment in it's 1-arm set-up but they quickly found out that the increase in adjustment caused other issues and that only so much adjustment could be found with one arm.

Also, my more major concern is how the suspension will be supported with only one arm. The Accord was actually using a 1-arm set-up on the model prior to the 8th gen, but Honda opted to go for a 3-arm to support the heavier car and new suspension in 08. My main concern would be changing something from the 3-arm support to 1-arm since if it were to fail things could go disastrously wrong. Hoping obviously they don't, but since Honda designed it this way I actually am hesitant because I'm sure Honda could have saved costs with a 1-arm set-up vs a 3 as well from the factory if it was a better option. Lastly, I'd be proactive in checking things in your testing just because I don't want to see you experience any issues (why I didn't test on my own) since there is only a 90 day warranty.

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Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 29, 2011

Throwdown said:
Definitely keep us posted on this item, we have known that this was out for some time now but have been hesitant for a few reasons:

When the 8th gen was first released, Megan actually tried to have more adjustment in it's 1-arm set-up but they quickly found out that the increase in adjustment caused other issues and that only so much adjustment could be found with one arm.

Also, my more major concern is how the suspension will be supported with only one arm. The Accord was actually using a 1-arm set-up on the model prior to the 8th gen, but Honda opted to go for a 3-arm to support the heavier car and new suspension in 08. My main concern would be changing something from the 3-arm support to 1-arm since if it were to fail things could go disastrously wrong. Hoping obviously they don't, but since Honda designed it this way I actually am hesitant because I'm sure Honda could have saved costs with a 1-arm set-up vs a 3 as well from the factory if it was a better option. Lastly, I'd be proactive in checking things in your testing just because I don't want to see you experience any issues (why I didn't test on my own) since there is only a 90 day warranty.

i'll definitely keep you posted.. i'll try to take some pics.. the ingalls rear camber kit also comes with a 'rear ball joint' in addition to their single toe arm.. and of course you retain your other 2 factory arms so i don't see that safety would be to great of a concern.. considering you keep 2 oem arms (instead of none if you utilize a 3arm camber setup).. so in essence you still have 3 arms with the ingalls setup.. just not all 3 are adjustable lol

safety will really come down to install.. which i'll be taking my car to a reputable shop to get the rear ball joints pressed in and fully aligned

and im sure ingalls wouldn't release something like this without testing it themselves.. ingalls have been around for awhile and i think they have a good rep for quality products.. would you agree? or no?

Morepower4me

· #8 · Jul 29, 2011

j-accord said:
and of course you retain your other 2 factory arms so i don't see that safety would be to great of a concern.. considering you keep 2 oem arms (instead of none if you utilize a 3arm camber setup).. so in essence you still have 3 arms with the ingalls setup.. just not all 3 are adjustable.

^^This.

Assuming the included ball joint is of decent quality, there shouldn't be any safety issues.

Unless I'm looking at it wrong, it seems to be the same 1 arm kit, but with more camber adjust-ability built into the arm, and then an adjustable ball joint for toe? Is that right. The PDF wasn't as detailed as I hoped.

Keep us in the loop OP, I'm curious how it works out!

j-accord

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 3, 2011

quick update:

my rear camber kits came in nice and fast from http://lightningmotorsports.com no issues here.

But only 1 of my front ball joints came in from http://www.streetsideauto.com today. Apparently the warehouse they shipped from only had 1 in stock. They apparently have another warehouse they will ship from but they won't know til tomorrow morning whether or not that warehouse has any in stock. Sounds kind of weird to me but idk.. but If they don't have it at the other one, they will refund me and I'm gonna have to go elsewhere just to order 1 single front ball joint. So far streetsideauto has been very nice but I just wished they would of informed me before they shipped out just 1 ball joint. i could of canceled the whole thing and order both from somewhere else. i hate getting partial orders lol

but once they all come in, hopefully soon.. i will do a full front and rear install at the same time and do an alignment at the same time. all at the same shop.

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Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 13, 2011

UPDATE:

still seems like i'm the only one with this setup on here lol but allllright.. i finally got my camber kits on..

(2) Ingalls #35593 Front Ball Joint adjustable from +1.5-3 degrees
(2) Ingalls #35623 Rear Ball Joint & Toe Arm adjustable from 0 to +3 degrees

I got my rear fenders rolled and also a full alignment.. I must say that I am very happy with this setup!!! Not only is this setup more affordable than any 'front ball/rear 3 arm' setup available.. the labor on the install was very fast as well! I would say in total for both front and rear maybe took 2 hrs to install just the camber kits and maybe another hour to roll the fenders and do the alignment at the shop I took it to. So a little under 3hrs in total with no hiccups. If you're in Houston, take your car to ONE STOP AUTO off of Hillcroft. They do phenomenal work!

The shop was able to align my car back to factory specs also with no issues whatsoever. I know a lot of people, if not everyone has the 3 arm setup. But i do not regret going the rear ball joint route whatsoever.

I am HAPPY! :banana:

Remember, the 'rear' ingalls setup only includes 1 ball joint and 1 toe arm.

p.s. I will try to take pics to show everyone exactly what was included and how the install looks.

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Watthepho

· #11 · Nov 12, 2013

So update on this? cause im shopping for a camber kit right now. and also hwo much did they charge for the install on the camber kit??

Jesk

· #12 · Sep 24, 2014

Update

eazy

· #13 · Sep 24, 2014

this thread is from 2011 guys lol...

Throwdown

· #14 · Sep 24, 2014

Got these in stock. PM us if interested

Lucky0709

· #15 · Sep 24, 2014

im assuming all is good.. might be getting these after the coils then.

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