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That original filter looks very dirty...
 

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The stickers added more power than the filter right?
ya up to 5hp. sticker placement better in than out. don't want to rice it outside.

That original filter looks very dirty...
19,659 miles mostly highway in SoCal.

better than the stock filter?
In terms of less restrictions and more airflow yes. the car feels more responsive and smoother. when you rev it you hear the induction sound and air getting in.

It's no SRI but it's an alternative to those who don't want to get a custom aftermarket intake.

Looking to take a long road trip to get some real world numbers . will post later on
 

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I thought K&N filters were tested and found to be worse at actually "filtering" albeit while allowing more air(?)
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And as for the alleged 5hp increase, :lmao:
 

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I've used K&N filters for years and I've never had an engine fail so I guess they are good enough. I will probably get one when its due and just clean it when the MM says to change. 24,000mi/year on my cars so there is some ROI there. Glad to see the 9th gen filter is out.

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couldn't it be because your old filter was dirty and restrictive and just replacing it with a new regular filter would have given these results? :dunno:
His filter is no where near the point of congestion, and restrictive.

Take the time to read this air filter study conducted by Oak Ridge National Laboratory for the U.S. Department of Energy.

Pay close attention to 3.1.3 Performance and Fuel Economy for the results of their testing.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/pdfs/Air_Filter_Effects_02_26_2009.pdf
 

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Thirty five years ago I used to get all freaky about headers, exhaust systems, aftermarket air filters and other "performance" induction crap. Even then it was only marginally justified for dd street machinery. Today it's just wasted motion at best and usually counter productive.
 

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Thirty five years ago I used to get all freaky about headers, exhaust systems, aftermarket air filters and other "performance" induction crap. Even then it was only marginally justified for dd street machinery. Today it's just wasted motion at best and usually counter productive.
I agree. The only benefit I possibly see to a K&N is the ability to reuse it. For some, anyway. For me, I calculated that I'd need 6-7 years of ownership of the car to recoup the cost of the K&N as compared to paper filters. And then there's the time factor. I can change a paper filter in 60 seconds in my Accord. Cleaning, re-oiling, and drying times for a K&N are much much longer than this. There really is no benefit, therefore, that I can see for using a K&N.

And then there's the potential issue of over-oiling the K&N resulting in engine sensor damage or contamination. Just not worth it IMO.

And even if this magical 5 hp gain was real, nobody would feel it anyway.

I suppose the extra intake noise may be a plus for some people, but extra power in an Accord - no way.
 

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Thirty five years ago I used to get all freaky about headers, exhaust systems, aftermarket air filters and other "performance" induction crap. Even then it was only marginally justified for dd street machinery. Today it's just wasted motion at best and usually counter productive.
Well put. Same for me 25 years ago, we learn as we get older.
 
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